Re: [Elecraft] A dumb question about lightning

2023-08-04 Thread john simmons
craft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Bill Frantz Sent: Friday, August 4, 2023 3:32 PM To: Elecraft List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A dumb question about lightning While you are trying to make sense of the best practices lightning protection documents: N0AX’s ARRL book “Grounding and Bonding for

Re: [Elecraft] A dumb question about lightning

2023-08-04 Thread Bill Frantz
While you are trying to make sense of the best practices lightning protection documents: N0AX’s ARRL book “Grounding and Bonding for the Radio Amateur” Motorola’s STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES FOR COMMUNICATION SITES

Re: [Elecraft] A dumb question about lightning

2023-08-02 Thread Fred Jensen
Not sure you got an answer to your question ... two rules of thumb: 1. Follow the NEC, it's incorporated in building codes, essentially the law, and failure to do so could possibly invalidate your insurance claim should you need to file for damages. 2.  Read and use the techniques and

Re: [Elecraft] A dumb question about lightning

2023-08-01 Thread Al Lorona
Hi, Everybody, I greatly apologize for escalating the list traffic with my question on lightning. I merely wanted to get your thoughts on disconnecting equipment in addition to grounding and bonding. And the overwhelming consensus-- in both public and private responses-- is that yes, in fact,

Re: [Elecraft] A dumb question about lightning

2023-07-31 Thread Gerry leary via Elecraft
e and more incorrect with the telling or writing. 73 Bob, K4TAX Message: 20 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 13:20:06 -0700 From: Fred Jensen To: Geoffrey Feldman Cc:elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A dumb question about lightning Message-ID:<87985aa1-b606-cec8-f07c-5edbadbdc...@gmail.com&

Re: [Elecraft] A dumb question about lightning

2023-07-31 Thread Bob McGraw
e telling or writing. 73 Bob, K4TAX Message: 20 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 13:20:06 -0700 From: Fred Jensen To: Geoffrey Feldman Cc:elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A dumb question about lightning Message-ID:<87985aa1-b606-cec8-f07c-5edbadbdc...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plai

Re: [Elecraft] A dumb question about lightning

2023-07-31 Thread Dr. William J. Schmidt
. Schmidt email: b...@wjschmidt.com -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Monday, July 31, 2023 5:25 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A dumb question about lightning On 7/31/2023 2:14 PM, jerry wrote: > Interest

Re: [Elecraft] A dumb question about lightning

2023-07-31 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/31/2023 2:14 PM, jerry wrote: Interesting.  Suppose the service entrance is at one end of the house, and the ham shack at the other end?  I don't think it's physically possible to provide a low inductance path that's 60 feet long, is it? I've posted a link to my tutorial, which covers

Re: [Elecraft] A dumb question about lightning

2023-07-31 Thread Walter Underwood
These kinds of questions are exactly why there is an entire ARRL book on the subject. Short version, you need a system that provides both a safety ground for the AC power wiring and an RF ground for lightning protection. In 2020, both the CZU Lightning Complex and SCU Lightning Complex fires

Re: [Elecraft] A dumb question about lightning

2023-07-31 Thread jerry
Interesting. Suppose the service entrance is at one end of the house, and the ham shack at the other end? I don't think it's physically possible to provide a low inductance path that's 60 feet long, is it? Would a solution be to DC-isolate the station from the grounded antenna? Say with a

Re: [Elecraft] A dumb question about lightning

2023-07-31 Thread Gerry leary via Elecraft
Hello Fred, I am getting ready to put up a hex beam. I’m going to put it on a 31 foot self supporting aluminum mast from US towers. The mast sits on a base, and the base will sit on a concrete pad. that is 4 ft.² and 6 feet deep. Would you offer me a little advice on grounding, for lightning

Re: [Elecraft] A dumb question about lightning

2023-07-31 Thread Fred Jensen
Be very careful of advice regarding lightning protection.  There are some very good sources, starting with the NEC and including material from ARRL.  Some is somewhat non-intuitive.  For example, the NEC requires that any additional "earth electrodes" [aka ground rods] be bonded to the service

Re: [Elecraft] A dumb question about lightning

2023-07-31 Thread Ken WA8JXM
Geoff, I certainly understand your "do it right" approach...the impossible: 8 ft ground rods -- I have bedrock at 36-42". When I put the tower up, I tried. I rented a heavy SDS hammer drill and, despite hours of trying, never got deeper than 5 ft. And what good is a single, shallow rod in

Re: [Elecraft] A dumb question about lightning

2023-07-31 Thread Geoffrey Feldman
First thing and foremost - switches are mostly not relevant to protection. Energy that can travel 1000' through the sky is likely to continue across most switches. So, the utmost of safety is what you indicated you did - disconnect. By disconnect, I mean either disconnect outside the