Re: [Elecraft] K3 - am I locked into a specific microcode level

2016-09-23 Thread John Evans
Why are we using the term microcode here?  When I think of microcode, I 
think of the code within a cpu that takes the machine code from outside 
the processor and turns it into the signals that move and manipulate the 
data within the processor, turning on and off registers and paths.  When 
I think of firmware within a device such as an SDR, I am still thinking 
along the lines of machine code that is outside of some processor.


72 - john - n0hj

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - am I locked into a specific microcode level

2016-09-22 Thread Jim Miller
Is there any problem "jumping " from my current level to the newest?

Thanks Guys, I should have known but somehow I thought I had to upgrade to
load new levels because of the synthesizers.  So glad to hear that and this
one will be quite an upgrade from maybe a couple of years ago.  

I just made 1200 contacts with it in the previous 9 days for Route 66
On-The-Air Special Event and it worked just fine like it always dd.  Heard
from another person who was listening to me and didn't understand how I
could hear some and he couldn't.  I told him it was spelled K3.  Last year
2387 and the previous year 2606 in the 9 days.  Had personal stuff in the
way this year.   Radio works FINE.

Will start with a new K3 Utility and go from there.  

Thanks all, 73, Jim KG0KP W6P(annually)

-Original Message-
From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:donw...@embarqmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 6:52 PM
To: Jim Miller; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - am I locked into a specific microcode level

Jim,

Go ahead and update your K3 with the latest level firmware!
K3 Utility has the capability to interrogate your K3 and determine which
modules are to be loaded.
Yes, there are K3S unique firmware modules, but K3 Utility sorts all that
out so you get the latest for your K3 configuration.
The firmware is "backwards compatible" - the K3 is not obsolete nor "old
school".
Elecraft would not remove firmware upgrade support without notice - consider
that the legacy gear is still being supported - the K2, K1, and
KX1 - that is witness to the Elecraft support for all customers, new or old.
The first K2s were produced in 1998 and are still going strong and even
those first K2s are capable of being upgraded with mod kits to be equal to
the latest K2 being shipped (with some minor exceptions).  I think this is
an example of the kind of support you will receive from Elecraft in the
future.

73,
Don W3FPR


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - am I locked into a specific microcode level

2016-09-20 Thread Don Wilhelm

Jim,

Go ahead and update your K3 with the latest level firmware!
K3 Utility has the capability to interrogate your K3 and determine which 
modules are to be loaded.
Yes, there are K3S unique firmware modules, but K3 Utility sorts all 
that out so you get the latest for your K3 configuration.
The firmware is "backwards compatible" - the K3 is not obsolete nor "old 
school".
Elecraft would not remove firmware upgrade support without notice - 
consider that the legacy gear is still being supported - the K2, K1, and 
KX1 - that is witness to the Elecraft support for all customers, new or 
old.  The first K2s were produced in 1998 and are still going strong and 
even those first K2s are capable of being upgraded with mod kits to be 
equal to the latest K2 being shipped (with some minor exceptions).  I 
think this is an example of the kind of support you will receive from 
Elecraft in the future.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/20/2016 11:47 AM, Jim Miller wrote:

I have not installed any of the K3S lookalike modules but was up to date
with all the mods until then.  I remember seeing that I could not load some
level unless I had the new synth boards.  I suspect I cannot load any more
code updates after that.

Does the code yet recognize where I am and load the latest code applicable
to my level?

Am I locked into a "latest level for my machine"?



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - am I locked into a specific microcode level

2016-09-20 Thread Nr4c
Everything is backwards compatible. Features you don't have just won't work. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Sep 20, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Jim Miller  wrote:
> 
> I have not installed any of the K3S lookalike modules but was up to date
> with all the mods until then.  I remember seeing that I could not load some
> level unless I had the new synth boards.  I suspect I cannot load any more
> code updates after that.
> 
> 
> 
> Does the code yet recognize where I am and load the latest code applicable
> to my level?
> 
> 
> 
> Am I locked into a "latest level for my machine"?  
> 
> 
> 
> What is that level?  
> 
> 
> 
> Can I still get it if I am not totally up to date?
> 
> 
> 
> Love my machine - I (me, myself, only me, etc.) have made over 1
> contacts in the last 5 years of W6P Special Event 9 days periods and I am
> not a contest person.  This is my favorite event of all.  I actually cannot
> get on my radio very often and not for very long but do everything I can to
> play with my K3 as W6P during Route 66 On-The-Air.
> 
> 
> 
> 73, Jim KG0KP, K3 1442 since new
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - am I locked into a specific microcode level

2016-09-20 Thread Jack Brindle
This is not true. The K3/K3S firmware is designed to determine which modules 
are installed in your K3/K3S and
use what it finds. There is no “lock-in”, you can use the latest code in your 
K3 (as I and many others do). To
put it another way, we did not obsolete the K3. It is  great radio and 
continues to improve with each firmware
release.

Jack Brindle, W6FB

> On Sep 20, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Jim Miller  wrote:
> 
> I have not installed any of the K3S lookalike modules but was up to date
> with all the mods until then.  I remember seeing that I could not load some
> level unless I had the new synth boards.  I suspect I cannot load any more
> code updates after that.
> 
> 
> 
> Does the code yet recognize where I am and load the latest code applicable
> to my level?
> 
> 
> 
> Am I locked into a "latest level for my machine"?  
> 
> 
> 
> What is that level?  
> 
> 
> 
> Can I still get it if I am not totally up to date?
> 
> 
> 
> Love my machine - I (me, myself, only me, etc.) have made over 1
> contacts in the last 5 years of W6P Special Event 9 days periods and I am
> not a contest person.  This is my favorite event of all.  I actually cannot
> get on my radio very often and not for very long but do everything I can to
> play with my K3 as W6P during Route 66 On-The-Air.
> 
> 
> 
> 73, Jim KG0KP, K3 1442 since new
> 
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