Re: [Elecraft] Which ONE rig would I buy - BUT somewhat off topic

2012-04-04 Thread Brian Denley
Don:
Looking out my window, I can just see the old plant where National Radio 
used to be housed, about a mile and a half away.  It's on the Malden - 
Melrose line, beside the railroad tracks.  As a teenager, I dreamed of one 
day owing one of those new HRO-500s.  Never did get one.
Brian KB1VBF
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- Original Message - 
From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Which ONE rig would I buy?


 Dave,

 I have to agree.  My rig prior to the K2 was a Yaesu FT-900AT.  I think
 that rig is one of Yaesu's best kept secrets - good performance in a 100
 watt class transmitter and  good receive performance.  Removable front
 panel - but the buttons and knobs were quite close together.  When I
 built my Field Test K2, I was surprised how much space there was between
 the buttons and knobs.

 OK, there is not as much space between them as on my National NC-100
 receiver, but then that receiver is heavy (I have not weighed it), and
 it is 19 inches wide and 8.5 inches high - the desktop rack cabinet it
 resides in is 21 inches wide and about 16 inches deep.  It is a real
 behemoth compared to the K2 or the K3 or KX3, and all 3 of those
 transceiver have vastly more function than that NC-100.

 That NC-100 has sentimental value because that receiver traded hands
 between my old Elmer W8ELL and I several times - the price was always
 what he initially bought it for - $35.  Because of that fact, it will
 pass with my estate - I will never sell it.

 So yes, I look at the comments that the Elecraft buttons are too close,
 and I compare them with my FT-900 and just shake my head - either
 those ops have really, really FAT fingers or they have not experienced
 transceivers like the Yaesu FT-900.

 The FT-817 is much worse for econometrics - the tuning knob is too
 small, the menus are too deep and the buttons are too small - yes, I
 have an FT-817, and those are my user's assessments.

 73,
 Don W3FPR


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Re: [Elecraft] Which ONE rig would I buy - BUT somewhat off topic

2012-04-04 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
My first world class receiver was a National HRO5TA1 from the early
1940's. It came to me via another Ham in the mid 50's. By the mid 1960's the
HRO was in need of some work. In those days resistors drifted, capacitors
leaked and tubes grew weak and gassy. But I had no manual. So I wrote the
National company, asking if they might have one and what it might cost. 

A few weeks passed and a large envelope arrived in my mail. Inside was an
HRO5 manual and a note from a secretary at National. She said that she had
spent several lunch hours digging through old file cabinets (remember this
was before personal computers - even before Xeroxing!) and found a copy.
With the complements of National Radio. No charge. 

That's when I learned that a company serious about supporting a market, like
National was about Ham radio in those days, was serious about world-class
customer support. 

And that's how you can tell the Elecraft is also very serious about
supporting the Ham market today.

73, Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-


Don:
Looking out my window, I can just see the old plant where National Radio
used to be housed, about a mile and a half away.  It's on the Malden -
Melrose line, beside the railroad tracks.  As a teenager, I dreamed of one
day owing one of those new HRO-500s.  Never did get one.
Brian KB1VBF
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html



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Re: [Elecraft] Which ONE rig would I buy - BUT somewhat off topic

2012-04-04 Thread Tony Estep
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz wrote:

 My first world class receiver was a National HRO5TA1 from the early
 1940's.

===
The HRO receivers had that fantastic dial with the planetary vernier gizmo
inside and the numbers peeking through the holes -- to me, that was the
most romantic piece of gadgetry in the history of ham radio. A modern
version with a virtual picture of that dial on a screen would be a major
marketing coup.

Tony KTØNY
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Re: [Elecraft] Which ONE rig would I buy - BUT somewhat off topic

2012-04-04 Thread Don Wilhelm
Tony,

If you are able to achieve a linear 1 dial division equals 1 kHz  
calibration for that dial, please let me know what capacitor you used 
and other parameters involved - I have two of those National Dials in 
the jumkbox/

It is typical that dial could be read in 1 kHz increments given that the 
average band coverage was 500 kHz.  That is 1 kHz per division.  
Contrast that with the digital frequency readouts of today that give you 
resolution down to the nearest Hz if you select the fine tuning rate.

Those old days had their benefits (1 kHz tuning accuracy was considered 
exceptional).  Do we want to go back to those days?  I think not.

73,
Don W3FPR

  On 4/4/2012 11:25 PM, Tony Estep wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Ron D'Eau Clairer...@cobi.biz  wrote:

 My first world class receiver was a National HRO5TA1 from the early
 1940's.
 ===
 The HRO receivers had that fantastic dial with the planetary vernier gizmo
 inside and the numbers peeking through the holes -- to me, that was the
 most romantic piece of gadgetry in the history of ham radio. A modern
 version with a virtual picture of that dial on a screen would be a major
 marketing coup.

 Tony KTØNY
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Re: [Elecraft] Which ONE rig would I buy - BUT somewhat off topic

2012-04-04 Thread Tony Estep
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:41 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 If you are able to achieve a linear 1 dial division equals 1 kHz
  calibration for that dial, please let me know what capacitor you used...

===
Naw, that's not what I meant. I just loved the cool way the dial itself
worked and looked. I'm not thinking of anything that has capacitors or a
VFO, or in fact generates any RF at all. I'm just thinking about that
display. What I'm imagining is that some demented genius could take a
modern receiver with a rotary encoder, and program a control program with a
visual dial display that gave the digitally computed readout but showed it
on a virtual version of the old HRO dial with the numbers peeping through
the rectangles. Actually not that hard to do with one of the control
programs like HRD, but it would take a certain obsessive sort of hacker
(not me) to want to undertake it.

Tony KT0NY



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