Re: [Election-Methods] RELEASE: Instant Runoff Voting (Chris Benham)

2008-07-05 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:09 PM 6/23/2008, Stéphane Rouillon wrote: After a nice discussion about keeping cool, usually a great idea if one can manage it. On the other hand, sometimes getting a little hot can get things done. So now can you acknoledge that IRV is better than FPTP ? I can accpet IRV being worst

Re: [Election-Methods] Dopp: 15. “Violates some election fairness principles .

2008-07-05 Thread Chris Benham
Kathy Dopp  quoted approvingly from  this Abd post and told me off for not addressing it, so here goes. Abd: Later-No-Harm is FairVote's favorite election criterion. That's because the peculiar design of sequential elimination guarantees -- if a majority is not required -- that a lower

Re: [Election-Methods] RELEASE: Instant Runoff Voting (Chris Benham)

2008-07-05 Thread James Gilmour
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 7:19 PM But, in the United States, where I live, IRV isn't replacing pure FPTP. It's replacing Top Two Runoff (TTR). And it is pretty clear to me that TTR is superior in just about every way, I suspect all such judgements must in the end be

[Election-Methods] Matrix voting and cloneproof MMP questions

2008-07-05 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
I thought I could ask a few questions while otherwise being busy making my next simulator version :-) So here goes.. First, when a group elects a smaller group (as a parliament might do with a government, although real parliaments don't do it this way), should the method used to elect the

Re: [Election-Methods] Challenge Problem

2008-07-05 Thread fsimmons
Dear Jobst, Yes, great fun, and simple to boot! This method should be called the Magnanimous Method. The voter of the first drawn ballot is not punished for not going along with everybody else, and there's still plenty of prior incentive to cooperate, because chances are small for getting

Re: [Election-Methods] USING Condorcet

2008-07-05 Thread Kevin Venzke
Hi Juho, --- En date de : Jeu 3.7.08, Juho [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : That scenario was the simplest I could imagine. Only three candidates. One strong candidate but below majority, one weaker runner-up, and third clearly weaker candidate. This was also the most threatening scenario

[Election-Methods] Fwd: [election_leaders] Pierce Co WA forced to use uncertified system

2008-07-05 Thread Kathy Dopp
Another IRV disaster in San Francisco and in Pierce Co, WA: San Francisco: Vote tallying could present another fiasco http://www.examiner.com/a-1472574~Vote_tallying_could_present_another_fiasco.html -- Forwarded message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, Jul