Re: [EM] National Popular Vote Condorcet

2009-07-01 Thread Markus Schulze
Hallo, this problem had already been mentioned here: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.politics.election-methods/10991 Markus Schulze Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info

Re: [EM] National Popular Vote Condorcet

2009-07-01 Thread Jonathan Lundell
On Jun 30, 2009, at 10:44 PM, Paul Kislanko wrote: One can infer a plurality ballot from any kind of ranked ballot, but not the other way around. One can infer an approval ballot from any kind of ranked ballot that allows equal ranks, but not the other way around. Except for strategic

Re: [EM] National Popular Vote Condorcet

2009-07-01 Thread Paul Kislanko
Yes, as usual I wasn't very clear. The way that SHOULD have been worded is: One can use plurality to count any kind of ranked ballots, but only plurality to count plurality ballots. One can use approval to count any kind of ranked ballots that allow equal rankings, but only approval to count

Re: [EM] National Popular Vote Condorcet

2009-07-01 Thread Bob Richard
Paul Kislanko wrote: ... avoids the whole strategy discussion. If I'm asked to fill out a ranked ballot without knowing how it will be counted, I can't strategically vote insincerely. I would say that I can't vote at all and would probably boycott the election. It's more a technique for

Re: [EM] Condorcet/Range DSV

2009-07-01 Thread Chris Benham
Jameson, Sorry to be so tardy in replying.   That is not a bad suggestion; I like both systems. Yours gives less of a motivation for honest rating: In most cases, it makes A100 B99 C0 equivalent to A100 B51 C0. No, mine gives more motivation for honest rating (in the sense that it gives less

Re: [EM] National Popular Vote Condorcet

2009-07-01 Thread Dave Ketchum
Now it is July 1 and I have responses from kisla...@airmail.net, jlund...@pobox.com , Markus Schulze. Merging is possible, provided each state provides and describes data suitable for this purpose, such as: Condorcet X*X array. Because of possibility of extra candidates from some