From: James Gilmour
>> I don't think I would have a problem with C winning here, if
>> the votes were all sincere.
>Even if all the votes are sincere, it is irrelevant what you or I think. It
>is what ordinary electors would think about such a
>winner, with only 5% of the first preferences.
Toby Pereira > Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:11 PM
> > From: James Gilmour
> >But suppose the votes had been (again ignoring irrelevant preferences):
> > 48 A>C
> >47 B>C
> >5 C
> > "C" is still the Condorcet winner - no question about that. But I
> >doubt whether anyone c
robert bristow-johnson > Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:00 PM
> > On 9/22/11 12:40 PM, James Gilmour wrote:
> > But suppose the votes had been (again ignoring irrelevant
> preferences):
> > 48 A>C
> > 47 B>C
> > 5 C
> > "C" is still the Condorcet winner - no question about that
Peter Zbornik > Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:41 PM
> I agree with James, and that was why I proposed that election
> reform took the path through added election rounds.
>
> Reform of FPTP would thus add a second election round where
> the Condorcet winner would meet the FPTP winner. Who
From: James Gilmour
I don't think I would have a problem with C winning here, if the votes were all
sincere. But that's the problem. They might not be. A and B supporters might
just be putting C ahead of their perceived main rival. I suppose this is
similar to the "DH3" problem - http://ran
On 9/22/11 12:40 PM, James Gilmour wrote:
I cannot comment on the quoted remark (cut) that prompted your post
and I know nothing at all about the activities of anyone at FairVote,
but you have hit on a real problem in practical politics in your
comment above - the problem of the weak Condorce
Dear all,
I agree with James, and that was why I proposed that election reform
took the path through added election rounds.
Reform of FPTP would thus add a second election round where the
Condorcet winner would meet the FPTP winner. Who in the UK would
object to that?
I described also how to add
Jameson Quinn > Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 2:00 AM
> If I'm right, the claim is that voters, and especially
> politicians, are intuitively concerned with the possibility
> of someone winning with broad but shallow support. In
> Approval, Condorcet, Majority Judgment, or Range, a
> rela
On the center for election science mailing list, someone just forwarded a
comment from a prominent member of FairVote. Stripped of the extremely rude
ad-hominem attacks, this is the actual content of what he had to say:
... in the process of trying to pass your preferred system somewhere, you
> wi
