Kathy Dopp wrote:
Kathy Dopp kathy.dopp at gmail.com
Sat May 3 21:29:19 PDT 2008
..However, even despite some voters using strategy because they realize
that IRV fundamentally does not work the way it is intended to, you
will undoubtedly find ample number of cases of candidates winning
Again satisfaction analysis can be used to objectively determine which
of IRV and FTP
produces the best outcome. Using enough election data, one could even
measure how often IRV may
elect the candidate not favored by most voters. My humble estimation is
rarely (1/50 times).
In comparison I
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Stéphane Rouillon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Again satisfaction analysis can be used to objectively determine which of
IRV and FTP
This statement does not make logical sense because measuring
feelings like satisfaction is not an objective measure.
For example
Of course,
I supposed that the information provided from ballots was sincere
And I supposed that the outcome that would have been obtained
if all voters had voted like a particular voter would give 100%
satisfaction to this particular voter.
Stéphane
Kathy Dopp a écrit :
On Sat, May 3,
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Stéphane Rouillon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Of course,
I supposed that the information provided from ballots was sincere
And just what State do you live in where you will have opportunity to
review the ballots that have been secured and reconciled to prevent
At 12:29 AM 5/4/2008, Kathy Dopp wrote:
However, even despite some voters using strategy because they realize
that IRV fundamentally does not work the way it is intended to, you
will undoubtedly find ample number of cases of candidates winning
elections who were not preferred by most voters.
Kathy Dopp wrote:
Wed Dec 26 15:41:47 PST 2007
One problem is that my second choice candidate may be
eliminated in the first round and my first choice
candidate not have success either - despite the fact
that my second choice candidate is the most popular
among all voters.
For instance, this
On Dec 25, 2007 9:58 PM, Stéphane Rouillon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes some voters have second-choice considered but they are all still
treated equally.
Hardly. Some voters have both their first AND second choices
considered and some voters do not. IRV not only treats voters'
ballots very
Kathy Dopp Sent: 26 December 2007 17:53
On Dec 25, 2007 9:58 PM, Stéphane Rouillon
Yes some voters have second-choice considered but they are all still
treated equally.
Hardly. Some voters have both their first AND second choices
considered and some voters do not. IRV not only
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 19:33:27 +0100 (CET)
From: Kevin Venzke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Election-Methods] RE : Re: IRV ballot is at least as fair as
FPTPballot
Yes some voters have second-choice considered but they are all still
treated equally.
So, you define equal as
Hi Kathy,
--- Kathy Dopp [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 19:33:27 +0100 (CET)
From: Kevin Venzke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Election-Methods] RE : Re: IRV ballot is at least as fair as
FPTPballot
Yes some voters have second-choice considered but they
Yes some voters have second-choice considered but they are all still
treated equally.
I agree when you say IRV voters whose first-choice loses in the first
round have their second choices considered.
I do not understand why you conclude that then obviously IRV does
not consider the ballots
12 matches
Mail list logo
