Re: [EM] C//A

2011-06-14 Thread James Gilmour
You have missed the point completely, ignoring issues of illiteracy (25% of adults) and disability and discrimination. It is simpler to rank candidates 1, 2, 3, 4, etc or to rate them on a 1 to 7 scale with the options in seven clear columns than to engage in any combinatorial addition. JG

Re: [EM] C//A (was: Remember Toby)

2011-06-14 Thread Juho Laatu
On 13.6.2011, at 5.37, Kevin Venzke wrote: Hi Juho, --- En date de : Sam 11.6.11, Juho Laatu juho4...@yahoo.co.uk a écrit : --- En date de : Ven 10.6.11, Juho Laatu juho4...@yahoo.co.uk a écrit : I don't recommend that voters not be instructed on how the method is supposed to work. I

Re: [EM] Defensive strategy for Condorcet methods

2011-06-14 Thread Juho Laatu
On 13.6.2011, at 17.33, Kristofer Munsterhjelm wrote: Kevin Venzke wrote: Is Condorcet//FPP a bad method? I agree with Jameson Quinn, the gap is too far and so it could be quite tempting to compromise as in FPTP (and failing that, to engineer a cycle if your candidate has great first

Re: [EM] Defensive strategy for Condorcet methods

2011-06-14 Thread Jameson Quinn
If you want something that deters burial strategy, how about what I called FPC? Each candidate's penalty is equal to the number of first-place votes for those who beat him pairwise. Lowest penalty wins. Burying a candidate may help in engineering a cycle, but it can't stack more first-place

Re: [EM] The importance of being uncovered (was C//A)

2011-06-14 Thread fsimmons
In the previous installment on this topic I explained why I thought that it would be much easier to defend an uncovered winner from complaints of unfairness, than to defend a covered winner, no matter the wonderful strengths of the pairwise victories.Here I just want to relate the concept of

[EM] The importance of being uncovered (improved layout)

2011-06-14 Thread fsimmons
The format on that last message was so bad, that I'm going to re-send it: In the previous installment on this topic I explained why I thought that it would be much easier to defend an uncovered winner from complaints of unfairness, than to defend a covered winner, no matter the wonderful