Re: [EM] 'Shulze (Votes For)' definition?

2009-08-15 Thread Markus Schulze
Dear Chris Benham, you wrote (14 Aug 2009): What I don't understand is the difference between winning votes (which I'm familiar with) and votes for, as they are both defined on page 13 of Markus Schulze's paper, pasted below. http://m-schulze.webhop.net/schulze1.pdf Kevin Venzke and

[EM] 'Shulze (Votes For)' definition?

2009-08-14 Thread Chris Benham
Marcus, I have some questions about your draft (dated  23 June 2009)  Shulze method paper, posted: http://m-schulze.webhop.net/schulze1.pdf On page 13 you define some of the ways of measuring defeat strengths, two of which are  Votes For and  Votes Against: snip Example 5 ( then the strength

Re: [EM] 'Shulze (Votes For)' definition?

2009-08-14 Thread Kevin Venzke
Hi Chris, --- En date de : Jeu 13.8.09, Chris Benham cbenha...@yahoo.com.au a écrit : I am a little bit confused as to the exact meaning of the phrase the absolute number ..of votes for candidate E.   Does the number of votes for E mean 'the number of ballots on which E is ranked above

[EM] 'Shulze (Votes For)' definition?

2009-08-14 Thread Chris Benham
Kevin, Or does it mean something that can be read purely from the pairwise matrix? It's the latter, read from the matrix. Absolute number is in contrast to using margin or ratio. Thanks for that, but it isn't the concept of absolute number that I'm having trouble with. What I don't understand