Re: [EM] Preferential Party List Method Proposal

2011-08-14 Thread James Gilmour
Greg Nisbet Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 4:31 AM My system does not have voters voting for candidates at all. In fact, candidates needn't even exist (theoretically of course) for my method to be well-defined. Instead people simply vote for parties, with parties that can't get any seats

Re: [EM] Preferential Party List Method Proposal

2011-08-14 Thread Dave Ketchum
On Aug 13, 2011, at 11:31 PM, Greg Nisbet wrote: On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Dave Ketchum da...@clarityconnect.com wrote: Glad to see thinking, though we part company on some details. On Aug 13, 2011, at 5:25 PM, Greg Nisbet wrote: All current forms of party list proportional

Re: [EM] Preferential Party List Method Proposal

2011-08-14 Thread Greg Nisbet
Message: 2 Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 09:31:55 +0100 From: James Gilmour jgilm...@globalnet.co.uk To: election-methods@lists.electorama.com Subject: Re: [EM] Preferential Party List Method Proposal Message-ID: E31F77F9E803443CA831CC02610CD525@u2amd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Re: [EM] Preferential Party List Method Proposal

2011-08-14 Thread Jonathan Lundell
On Aug 14, 2011, at 1:24 PM, Greg Nisbet wrote: My method can be modified fairly trivially to allow parties with a maximum size, e.g. an independent candidate would be a party with a maximum size of one, and simply allow surpluses to be transferred. Even the relatively naive Gregory

Re: [EM] Preferential Party List Method Proposal

2011-08-14 Thread Dave Ketchum
are too weak to deserve a seat. Dave Ketchum On Aug 14, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Greg Nisbet wrote: Message: 2 Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 09:31:55 +0100 From: James Gilmour jgilm...@globalnet.co.uk To: election-methods@lists.electorama.com Subject: Re: [EM] Preferential Party List Method Proposal Message

Re: [EM] Preferential Party List Method Proposal

2011-08-14 Thread Jonathan Lundell
On Aug 14, 2011, at 6:51 PM, Dave Ketchum wrote: Why transfers? At least, when I said do a CW type search for the strongest remaining candidate, I thought of this as adequate without transfers. I do think of quitting if the remainder are too weak: . Anyway, quit after filling the

Re: [EM] Preferential Party List Method Proposal

2011-08-14 Thread Dave Ketchum
After reading the ballots into the N*N matrix, look for the strongest candidate - the CW or what is found in the cycle when there is no CW. This fills the first seat. Then amend the matrix to exclude this CW and look in the matrix for whoever would be CW in the remainder. In each step

[EM] Preferential Party List Method Proposal

2011-08-13 Thread Greg Nisbet
All current forms of party list proportional representation have each voter cast a vote for a single party. I say this is inadequate since a small party can be eliminated and hence denied any representation (this is particularly relevant if the legislature has a threshold). However, votes for a

Re: [EM] Preferential Party List Method Proposal

2011-08-13 Thread James Gilmour
Greg Nisbet Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 10:25 PM All current forms of party list proportional representation have each voter cast a vote for a single party. I say this is inadequate since a small party can be eliminated and hence denied any representation (this is particularly

Re: [EM] Preferential Party List Method Proposal

2011-08-13 Thread Greg Nisbet
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Dave Ketchum da...@clarityconnect.comwrote: Glad to see thinking, though we part company on some details. On Aug 13, 2011, at 5:25 PM, Greg Nisbet wrote: All current forms of party list proportional representation have each voter cast a vote for a single

Re: [EM] Preferential Party List Method Proposal

2011-08-13 Thread Greg Nisbet
Message: 2 Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 00:32:14 +0100 From: James Gilmour jgilm...@globalnet.co.uk To: election-methods@lists.electorama.com Subject: Re: [EM] Preferential Party List Method Proposal Message-ID: 1E8F1DC34EB34C50A49239C7C1BA6CCB@u2amd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us