[Elementary-dev-community] Gtk Popover has landed in PPA

2014-02-05 Thread Daniel Foré
Hey folks, Good news! If you're using the GNOME 3 Staging PPA, you now have popovers! As of Gtk 3.11.5 they are available and I've just pushed theming support to egtk trunk. So give them a spin :) If your app is using Granite.Popover, it's a good time to check and make sure GtkPopover does everyt

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] elementary, ubuntu, and debian

2014-02-05 Thread Raphael Isemann
Sounds like a bug for me. As we are anyway need a better way of getting the wallpaper and it's properties, we can also fix that. The only thing is that i'm not sure if it's still valid. I think arch doesn't ship a patched accountservice/gnome-settings-daemon and i remember i have a login-wallpaper

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] elementary, ubuntu, and debian

2014-02-05 Thread Cameron Norman
There are a few issues (these are all relevant to Sid or Jessie, and not necessarily Wheezy): * systemd dependency: gnome[-settings-daemon] recently started to depend on systemd (in Debian, upstream still has CK, etcetera code as an option), and elementary's dependence on GNOME and gnome sessi

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] elementary, ubuntu, and debian

2014-02-05 Thread Pim Vullers
On 02/05/2014 07:32 PM, Daniel Foré wrote: > That's not a bad idea even for just being able to package pantheon on > Debian. I wonder if we can get someone with a Debian system to try > installing Pantheon and see what issues they encounter Packaging Pantheon isn't the big problem as far as I can

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Anyone coming to FOSDEM 2014?

2014-02-05 Thread Raphael Isemann
Hasn't the ZTE Open a higher-clocked chip of the Desire C and it seem to performs worse than the Android with the bloaty Sense-UI-stack? Don't want to start a flamewar but 99% of the Firefox OS talk is currently circlejerking ;) - Raphael 2014-02-05 Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff : > Oh, I also got t

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] elementary, ubuntu, and debian

2014-02-05 Thread Daniel Foré
Hey Raphael, That's not a bad idea even for just being able to package pantheon on Debian. I wonder if we can get someone with a Debian system to try installing Pantheon and see what issues they encounter Cheers, Daniel Foré elementaryos.org On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Raphael Isemann w

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] elementary, ubuntu, and debian

2014-02-05 Thread Cody Garver
Debian's installer is really really bad. Fixing that or porting ubiquity would be a feat. On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Tristan Petersen wrote: > Sergey > > I believe it. Thanks for the heads-up on the keynote, please let me know > when it's uploaded. > > Cheers, > Tristan > > > On 5 Februar

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] elementary, ubuntu, and debian

2014-02-05 Thread Tristan Petersen
Sergey I believe it. Thanks for the heads-up on the keynote, please let me know when it's uploaded. Cheers, Tristan On 5 February 2014, at 10:43 , Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff wrote: > Tristan, it's not that simple and fact is, Debian or even the upstream > projects are unlikely to be NSA-proof.

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] elementary, ubuntu, and debian

2014-02-05 Thread Raphael Isemann
As we are on the topic: What bugs are left before one could run the whole elementary software stack on debian? I think the indicators where one major problem. Would be cool if someone (*looks at shnatsel*) could write up what is missing and we file some bugs with a "debian" tag. Mainly because it i

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] elementary, ubuntu, and debian

2014-02-05 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
Tristan, it's not that simple and fact is, Debian or even the upstream projects are unlikely to be NSA-proof. You should really watch the recording of "NSA operation ORCHESTRA" keynote from FOSDEM as soon as it's uploaded. -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ele

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Anyone coming to FOSDEM 2014?

2014-02-05 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
2014-02-05 Tristan Petersen : > Very nice! I have been looking into firefox OS myself. I'd love to use a > phone that has open source as its base. > Have you looked into Jolla's Sailfish? They haven't released the UI code yet but they are very open-source-friendly and upstream all their contribut

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] elementary, ubuntu, and debian

2014-02-05 Thread Tristan Petersen
Hello David, Good morning! I can see how it wouldn't be so easy to switch, and I don't think it would be an easy affair either. Well the benefit from switching in my opinion would be at least switching to a more open and transparent code-review process. debian seems to be more community focus

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Anyone coming to FOSDEM 2014?

2014-02-05 Thread Tristan Petersen
Very nice! I have been looking into firefox OS myself. I'd love to use a phone that has open source as its base. I looked into the blackphone, but unfortunately they seem to be more of the same - their recent update to the FAQ on their website actually makes me completely forget about them now.

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] elementary, ubuntu, and debian

2014-02-05 Thread David Gomes
Hi, >In that regard, I am wondering if the team has discussed switching to debian as the base Yes, it has been discussed a few times, usually for other reasons though. It's not as simple as editing base="ubuntu" to base="debian", and unfortunately, most of the people who ask us for it seem to thi

[Elementary-dev-community] elementary, ubuntu, and debian

2014-02-05 Thread Tristan Petersen
Sergey Glad you touched on security & privacy concerns. I am new to the elementary dev community, but I am wondering if there has been any talk among the team in this regard. I was drawn to elementary for its simplicity and beauty but at the same time I have strong concerns about security and p