Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Developer Environment For Elementary OS

2012-09-05 Thread Jakob Eriksson
Agreed! Most of the current developers are, I suspect, seasoned programmers, but we have the opportunity to attract new programmers too and starting kit would be a nice guidance saying with these tools you can't stray too far off. best regards, Jakob On September 4, 2012 at 8:51 PM Voldyman

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Developer Environment For Elementary OS

2012-09-05 Thread Darcy Brás da Silva
Sorry sending the message twice, I think I didn't set my email client to assume elementary filter as mailing list and thus was only replying to one individual. On Tue, 2012-09-04 at 19:01 +0100, David Gomes wrote: Shipping more packages in my opinion is anti-developping philosophy. To start, the

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Developer Environment For Elementary OS

2012-09-05 Thread Darcy Brás da Silva
No, I wasn't aware of such blueprints, I guess it's a bit faulty on my side on not checking it before other the talking about the idea on IRC. I will certainly have a deep look at it. Thanks On Tue, 2012-09-04 at 23:46 +0400, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff wrote: Now I am fully aware that

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Developer Environment For Elementary OS

2012-09-05 Thread Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff
2012/9/5 Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com No, I wasn't aware of such blueprints, I guess it's a bit faulty on my side on not checking it before other the talking about the idea on IRC. I will certainly have a deep look at it. Thanks Discussing it on IRC is fine, and we can't

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Developer Environment For Elementary OS

2012-09-05 Thread Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff
2012/9/5 David Gomes da...@elementaryos.org There should be a recommended set of tools for a programmer to begin with. Well, we don't have to recommend anything other than elementary OS. Recommend using cmake and Vala? No need to recommend those, any new developer is forced to use those.

[Elementary-dev-community] Developer Environment For Elementary OS

2012-09-04 Thread Darcy Brás da Silva
Today while talking to some fine folks at #elementary-dev that go by the handles of victored and voluntatefaber , I wondered if there was any iso build ready to start working/developing for elementary. Now what would be the advantages of having the extra work on getting this iso out. 1) Errors

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Developer Environment For Elementary OS

2012-09-04 Thread Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff
Now I am fully aware that maybe this would be a hard work, and possiblylimiting to the fact that having everything shipped, would mean largeriso imageswhich then could be bad in terms of upload + updated state of the iso.So another idea to support this view would go towards a

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Developer Environment For Elementary OS

2012-09-04 Thread Daniel Foré
I usually just apt-get build-dep on anything I need to build and use Scratch for my coding needs. But then again I'm not doing anything terribly complex code-wise. I wouldn't be opposed to a developer meta-package, but the questions remains: What exactly would such a meta-package pull in? I'd

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Developer Environment For Elementary OS

2012-09-04 Thread Voldyman
I agree with munchor's dog fooding reference but do not agree with the other part. When i started contributing to elementary project (which is quite recently ;)) i had never done serious linux app development. I came from a mainly web and c# for desktop background although after completely