Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-24 Thread Cassidy James
-dev-community] Renaming Noise Music gets a +1 from me as well. Honestly, I think that we either need to keep it Noise or rename it to Music. Changing the name to anything else really seems unnecessary at this point. Regarding the generic name thing, I think that's something we should decide

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-21 Thread Uday Shankar
Subject: Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise Music gets a +1 from me as well. Honestly, I think that we either need to keep it Noise or rename it to Music. Changing the name to anything else really seems unnecessary at this point. Regarding the generic name thing, I think that's something we

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-21 Thread Victor Eduardo
-- From: Cassidy James Sent: 11/21/2012 12:01 PM To: Cody Garver Cc: xapantu; elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise Music gets a +1 from me as well. Honestly, I think that we either need to keep it Noise or rename it to Music. Changing

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-21 Thread Daniel Foré
; elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise Music gets a +1 from me as well. Honestly, I think that we either need to keep it Noise or rename it to Music. Changing the name to anything else really seems unnecessary at this point

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-20 Thread Daniel Foré
Just my two cents: It'd be really easy to just call it Music and not worry about it any longer haha. I don't think we should translate the name unless we're going with Music. Translating a branded name would kind of defeat the purpose, IMO and (as previously pointed out) could lead to some

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-20 Thread Sam Tate
I'm all for just going the GNOME Direction and calling it Music. This applies to all other apps (some are already like this, such as Files and Terminal). It is just so much simpler for the user to see something like Web rather than Midori (which has nothing to do with the web). So yeah, Music

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-20 Thread Cody Garver
I'm for Music. I also think music is what development should center around and leave podcasts and maybe even radio to separate apps. Podcasts because they really need a store experience, otherwise you'd be better off just subscribing to them in an RSS aggregator. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 20,

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-20 Thread Cassidy James
Music gets a +1 from me as well. Honestly, I think that we either need to keep it Noise or rename it to Music. Changing the name to anything else really seems unnecessary at this point. Regarding the generic name thing, I think that's something we should decide on a per-app basis. Technically its

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Jaap Broekhuizen
Is there an actual logical reason to rename Noise? -- Jaap On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 3:59 AM, Victor Eduardo vic...@elementaryos.orgwrote: Hi everybody, many months ago we were discussing the possibility of renaming Noisehttps://launchpad.net/noiseto something else. If I recall correctly,

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Alfredo Hernández
I suppose it's because of the Noise-Beatbox issue. El 19/11/2012 13:14, Jaap Broekhuizen jaap...@gmail.com escribió: Is there an actual logical reason to rename Noise? -- Jaap On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 3:59 AM, Victor Eduardo vic...@elementaryos.orgwrote: Hi everybody, many months ago

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff
2012/11/19 Jaap Broekhuizen jaap...@gmail.com: Is there an actual logical reason to rename Noise? Noise is perceived as something negative by many (the kind of people who are not crazy about metal or industrial), that's it AFAIK. -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff OS architect @ elementary --

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Jaap Broekhuizen | Mobiel
What is many? Seems like a trivial thing to me... -- Jaap Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.orgschreef: 2012/11/19 Jaap Broekhuizen jaap...@gmail.com: Is there an actual logical reason to rename Noise? Noise is perceived as something negative by many (the kind of people who are not

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread David Gomes
It's trivial to you because you know what Noise is. It's a media player, you know it. For people who don't, it's better if that name it is installed under in the computer is Music Player or something like that. It's easier for most people. On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Jaap Broekhuizen |

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Jaap Broekhuizen
Don't we already present Noise in the OS as a music player? Doesn't the icon have the purpose of showing the user what the app probably does? IMO Noise relates more to music than Tempo does. Also, if we are going this way with Noise because the name should directly show people what the app

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Chris Triantafillis
I agree with Jaap and i'm against rename it... Also i don't like Tempo, Noise is much better... 2012/11/19 Jaap Broekhuizen jaap...@gmail.com Don't we already present Noise in the OS as a music player? Doesn't the icon have the purpose of showing the user what the app probably does? IMO

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Felix Akkermans
I also agree with Jaap. Both names are equal to me in communicational value, so definitely not worth the effort and hassle. On 11/19/2012 03:46 PM, Chris Triantafillis wrote: I agree with Jaap and i'm against rename it... Also i don't like Tempo, Noise is much better... 2012/11/19 Jaap

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Benjamin VanMeggelen
I also agree that Noise is an appropriate name for the player. I feel that this naming scheme is most relevant to the player, as opposed to Tempo or some of the others that have been mentioned. Noise seems more generic and straight-forward as to what the app is meant to do. On Mon, 19 Nov,

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Corentin Noël
Okay, I disagree with you all then because in my language (french) there is two way to pronounce that : In french, and that word exists and means problems In english, and that is really hard because there is an double voyel (no-ise) so it's not that good for us. I let the democracy choose, but

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Benjamin VanMeggelen
I understand the issue with the translation. From what I understand (as french being my second language) the translation from Noise to french is Bruit. I'm not sure if the application titles have been (or will be) translated, but if so Bruit gives the same proper description of what Noise is in

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Darcy Brás da Silva
I think that translating names would only make sense if the names were like 'web browser, media player, and so on' else they are primary nouns and so not translatable. I think there is no gain in changing the name at this point, else then showing project immaturity. At this point the name

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Benjamin VanMeggelen
Those are pretty much my thoughts as well.. I don't think renaming the app for a third time would be productive at this point... It will probably just lead to more confusion. On Nov 19, 2012 11:57 AM, Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com wrote: I think that translating names would only

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread David Gomes
I wouldn't call this a rename. The App name would be Noise, for all effects, but it would be installed under the name of Media Player. On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com wrote: I think that translating names would only make sense if the names were

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Alfredo Hernández
David, if we did that with Noise, it should be done with every elementary application. El 19/11/2012 18:02, David Gomes da...@elementaryos.org escribió: I wouldn't call this a rename. The App name would be Noise, for all effects, but it would be installed under the name of Media Player. On

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread David Gomes
I thought we were doing it already, what is Midori installed under? On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Alfredo Hernández aldomann.desi...@gmail.com wrote: David, if we did that with Noise, it should be done with every elementary application. El 19/11/2012 18:02, David Gomes

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Osman Alperen Elhan
On Mon 19 Nov 2012 07:50:49 PM EET, Victor Eduardo wrote: Thanks for your replies, I agree with most of the comments. Some clarifications: 1. I'm not proposing Tempo as the new name. We'd still need to evaluate alternatives. If it were my choice I would have re-named the player to

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-19 Thread Jose Luis Navarro
@Victor +1 El 19/11/2012 19:42, xapantu xapa...@gmail.com escribió: Le 19/11/2012 17:43, Benjamin VanMeggelen a écrit : I understand the issue with the translation. From what I understand (as french being my second language) the translation from Noise to french is Bruit. I'm not sure if the

[Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise

2012-11-18 Thread Victor Eduardo
Hi everybody, many months ago we were discussing the possibility of renaming Noisehttps://launchpad.net/noiseto something else. If I recall correctly, there was a Facebook poll that resulted in *Tempo* being the preferred name. The blueprint is