[Elementary-dev-community] [Merge] lp:~elementary-dev-community/audience/prevent-screen-timeout into lp:audience
The proposal to merge lp:~elementary-dev-community/audience/prevent-screen-timeout into lp:audience has been updated. Status: Needs review => Rejected For more details, see: https://code.launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community/audience/prevent-screen-timeout/+merge/262939 -- Your team elementary Developer Community is subscribed to branch lp:~elementary-dev-community/audience/prevent-screen-timeout. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Elementary-dev-community] [Merge] lp:~elementary-dev-community/capnet-assist/multiple-displays into lp:capnet-assist
The proposal to merge lp:~elementary-dev-community/capnet-assist/multiple-displays into lp:capnet-assist has been updated. Commit Message changed to: Do not assume DISPLAY is :0 (lp:1480650) For more details, see: https://code.launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community/capnet-assist/multiple-displays/+merge/261458 -- Your team elementary Developer Community is subscribed to branch lp:~elementary-dev-community/capnet-assist/multiple-displays. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] [Merge] lp:~elementary-dev-community/audience/prevent-screen-timeout into lp:audience
I would prefer if this was a build flag instead so this x dependency becomes optional -- https://code.launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community/audience/prevent-screen-timeout/+merge/262939 Your team elementary Developer Community is subscribed to branch lp:~elementary-dev-community/audience/prevent-screen-timeout. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Getting started guide
Does src/hello-again.vala actually exist? Is that the right filename and location? If that's not the problem, push your code to launchpad or github and link it. On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Marco Dahms dahmsdahmsda...@gmail.com wrote: I want to help out with contributing to elementary in the future, so I have to learn more about it and Linux in general I am trying to work myself through http://elementary.io/docs/code/getting-started and I am stuck in the cmake/make section. The terminal always throws back make[2]: *** No rule to make target `../src/hello-again.vala', needed by `hello-again_valac.stamp'. Stop. make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/hello-again.dir/all] Error 2 make: *** [all] Error 2 I tried a lot now, retyping all my files, copy/paste, deleting the Projects-Folder again and starting from scratch... But it won’t work... is there a bug in the docs or am I doing it wrong? Regards for your help Marco -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] [Merge] lp:~elementary-dev-community/switchboard/fix-1358123 into lp:switchboard
Review: Approve Well done. Merged it with a slightly different bool name. -- https://code.launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community/switchboard/fix-1358123/+merge/235896 Your team elementary Developer Community is subscribed to branch lp:~elementary-dev-community/switchboard/fix-1358123. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Translation Freeze?
Let's try a freeze directly after beta2. No date for that yet, sorry On Aug 12, 2014, at 9:46 PM, MinSik CHO mscho...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. Thanks a lot J I’ll wait for the core dev’s opinions. MinSik ___ Have a Nice Day! 청심국제고등학교 조민식입니다. Honor Committee HS2 International Member Facebook: mscho527 LP: https://launchpad.net/~mscho527 우분투 한국 로코팀 (ubuntu-ko), Elementary OS 한국어 번역팀 (elementary-l10n-ko), 우분투 한국어 번역팀 (ubuntu-ko-l10n), 런치패드 한국어 번역팀 (lp-ko-l10n)에서 활동 중이며, ADW.Launcher (org.adw.launcher)와 Desk Notes (com.houmiak.desknotes) 애플리케이션을 번역하였습니다. 특히, Elementary OS 한국어 번역팀에서는 Team Owner이자 Administrator로 활동하고 있습니다. *From:* Raphael Isemann [mailto:teempe...@gmail.com teempe...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, August 13, 2014 7:39 AM *To:* MinSik CHO *Cc:* elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net *Subject:* Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Translation Freeze? Hi, we are currently only in a soft feature-freeze but i think we can start to flag certain applications as safe-for-translations to make the life of the translator-teams easier. I'll bug cody/dan/etc. what they think about that and then we will see further. Cheers, Raphael Isemann Am Di, 12. Aug, 2014 um 11:38 schrieb MinSik CHO mscho...@gmail.com: Hi. This is MinSik CHO, the admin of elementary os Korean translator’s team. Since Freya Beta has been released out, we are planning to trigger concentrated work on completing the translation for Freya. Is there any fixed translation freeze date? (I’m afraid there may not be, as there isn’t deadlines for elementary OS itself) Also, could someone update the python code that generates html page about the completeness of translation? It was very useful in keeping our translation organized. Thanks MinSik CHO ___ Have a Nice Day! 청심국제고등학교 조민식입니다. Honor Committee HS2 International Member Facebook: mscho527 LP: https://launchpad.net/~mscho527 우분투 한국 로코팀 (ubuntu-ko), Elementary OS 한국어 번역팀 (elementary-l10n-ko), 우분투 한국어 번역팀 (ubuntu-ko-l10n), 런치패드 한국어 번역팀 (lp-ko-l10n)에서 활동 중이며, ADW.Launcher (org.adw.launcher)와 Desk Notes (com.houmiak.desknotes) 애플리케이션을 번역하였습니다. 특히, Elementary OS 한국어 번역팀에서는 Team Owner이자 Administrator로 활동하고 있습니다. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Elementary-dev-community] [Merge] lp:~elementary-dev-community/pantheon-terminal/fix-1329550 into lp:pantheon-terminal
The proposal to merge lp:~elementary-dev-community/pantheon-terminal/fix-1329550 into lp:pantheon-terminal has been updated. Commit Message changed to: Adds an --about (-a) command line option and a corresponding quicklist item For more details, see: https://code.launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community/pantheon-terminal/fix-1329550/+merge/229683 -- https://code.launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community/pantheon-terminal/fix-1329550/+merge/229683 Your team elementary Developer Community is subscribed to branch lp:~elementary-dev-community/pantheon-terminal/fix-1329550. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Elementary-dev-community] [Merge] lp:~elementary-dev-community/switchboard-plug-pantheon-shell/bug-1182413 into lp:switchboard-plug-pantheon-shell
The proposal to merge lp:~elementary-dev-community/switchboard-plug-pantheon-shell/bug-1182413 into lp:switchboard-plug-pantheon-shell has been updated. Status: Needs review = Merged For more details, see: https://code.launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community/switchboard-plug-pantheon-shell/bug-1182413/+merge/182417 -- https://code.launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community/switchboard-plug-pantheon-shell/bug-1182413/+merge/182417 Your team elementary Developer Community is subscribed to branch lp:~elementary-dev-community/switchboard-plug-pantheon-shell/bug-1182413. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] We're now on gee-0.8 (AKA Let the build failures begin!)
0.3.x will be merged into or, more likely at this point, replace wingpanel's trunk. It wasn't merged initially because the code wasn't [and still isn't] complete enough but the functionality was desired for the isos. By now, all observed build failures have been remedied. The situation was not as bad as I expected. On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.orgwrote: Uh, probably should have posted to the list *first* #JustSaying Cheers, Daniel Foré elementaryos.org On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Victor Eduardo victoredua...@gmail.comwrote: lp:wingpanel corresponds to the version in Luna. lp:wingpanel/0.3.xhttps://code.launchpad.net/~elementary-pantheon/wingpanel/0.3.x is the development focus branch On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org wrote: Hey guys, So I got sick of waiting and merged gee-0.8 conversion branch into Granite, all the outstanding gee-0.8 conversion merge requests listed in https://bugs.launchpad.net/granite/+bug/1270091 In addition I made all relevant daily build recipes Trusty-only, as per Rico's advice. This change should fix builds for everything that's been converted to gee-0.8 prior to Granite (e.g. Scratch) and break builds for everything still dependent on the deprecated gee-1.0 since it cannot co-exist with gee-0.8 in one project. If you get weird `Gee' already contains a definition for X errors, you should switch to gee-0.8. I think I might have broken daily builds for Wingpanel since I don't understand the situation with its branches - it's lp:wingpanel/0.3.xhttps://code.launchpad.net/%7Eelementary-pantheon/wingpanel/0.3.xthat builds to PPA but I've merged the branch to development focus, i.e. lp:wingpanelhttps://code.launchpad.net/%7Eelementary-pantheon/wingpanel/trunkwhich only has a disabled recipe for Luna. So which branch should I have merged this Trusty-only code in? -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] What's up with Pantheon Notify?
Notifications were to be handled by gala itself, deprecating pantheon-notify (and its mem leak) but tom95 is busy IRL Sent from my iPhone On Feb 20, 2014, at 10:26 AM, Sergey \Shnatsel\ Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org wrote: Hey guys, I've noticed we still use Ubuntu's notify-osd in Isis builds. What happened to pantheon-notify? It was my favorite change scheduled for Isis, because notify-osd is pretty broken UX-wise. Last time I checked the standalone implementation was abandoned and the code integrated in Gala to avoid the window management mess that created. There was also unofficial notification log feature sprinkled on top, instead of which dock badges will be used. That still lives in a separate branch somewhere, as far as I can tell. Was there any progress on this recently? Is pantheon-notify still a goal for Isis? -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] elementary, ubuntu, and debian
Debian's installer is really really bad. Fixing that or porting ubiquity would be a feat. On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Tristan Petersen trista...@me.com wrote: Sergey I believe it. Thanks for the heads-up on the keynote, please let me know when it's uploaded. Cheers, Tristan On 5 February 2014, at 10:43 , Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff wrote: Tristan, it's not that simple and fact is, Debian or even the upstream projects are unlikely to be NSA-proof. You should really watch the recording of NSA operation ORCHESTRA keynote from FOSDEM as soon as it's uploaded. -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Isis Beta1
Scratch is targeting a huge amount of bugs, many (or most) of which are Wishlist On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.org wrote: Hey everyone, I was looking today at the Isis Beta1 milestone page (here: https://launchpad.net/elementary/+milestone/isis-beta1) and I noticed that there are just a TON of bugs targeted. Like a crazy unattainable amount. It's now already February and 14.04 will be released in just 2 months. So if your app is in that list, please go through and untarget everything you thing is unrealistic to complete within the next 2 months. I would like to release beta1 as close to 14.04 release as possible so that we can hopefully release Isis this summer (at or before the 1 year mark from Luna release). I think another 2 year release cycle isn't going to be acceptable to our users and Luna is already feeling far too old for developers. So let's trim the fat from that list. Get down to the requirements. And let's make a kick ass beta release ASAP ;) -- Best Regards, Daniel Foré elementaryos.org -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Popovers in GTK
I've been using the PPA for a while and the only bugs I've observed are theme related like ugly notebooks and boxes around headerbar close and maximize buttons. At least I assume those are theme related. I don't know if you've mentioned it before, but another benefit of 3.12 is headerbars can have more than just the close button. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.org wrote: Hey dudes, As you may know, popovers have landed in GTK! http://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2014/01/22/and-now-popovers/ AFAIK, this means they will be available in GTK 3.12, which is imo yet another reason to reach for GTK 3.12 by default in Isis. If I understand correctly, the gnome team staging PPA for 14.04 is being set up such that we should be able to get packages for 3.12 This would imply another deprecated widget in Granite since the GTK widget should be able to do everything that our widget does and hopefully doesn't have the quirky bugs that our widget has. So, basically I think we should probably make a decision about whether we intend to ship GTK 3.12 in Isis or not. -- Best Regards, Daniel Foré elementaryos.org -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] GTK 3.10 has landed
What did you burn it with? I used unetbootin because the Ubuntu iso burner is broken for me. On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:19 PM, teemperor teempe...@gmail.com wrote: Loginscreen was always resizeable (but the triangle indicating that is only visible in the newest versions). I'm working on it. - Raphael Am Do, 28. Nov, 2013 um 12:18 ,David Gomes da...@elementaryos.org schrieb: But the Live Session isn't working is it? I couldn't log in, it said only Guest User and I couldn't insert a password. Besides, I somehow could resize the login screen? That was very strange. ~David On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Cody Garver c...@elementaryos.orgwrote: The iso should be usable without manual tweaking after the gala merge requesthttps://code.launchpad.net/~gala-dev/gala/mutter38/+merge/179604is finished being reviewed. On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org wrote: HAIL RICOTZ!!! 2013/11/27 Cody Garver c...@elementaryos.org Rico did the heavy lifting, all hail ricotz On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:58 AM, teemperor teempe...@gmail.comwrote: Wooho, cody saves the day :) Am Mi, 27. Nov, 2013 um 6:57 ,Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.org schrieb: Yo yo yo, dev homies Cody just produced new ISOs that contain GTK 3.10! Most of you probably know what all that entails, so I won't waste your time. But let it be known that we can take advantage of all that goodness in Isis! — Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Wanting to Contribute
Hey, thanks for your compliment and your interest. This is a loose, tentative list of what should be in the next release: https://launchpad.net/elementary/+milestone/isis-beta1 All the other bugs can be found by visiting https://launchpad.net/elementaryand clicking the desired project link under Projects and then Bugs. Vala is the blessed language for elementary and there's a style guide for it here: http://elementaryos.org/docs/code/code-style The developer IRC channel is #elementary-dev on freenode. I guess we *try* to stay on topic. Lurk in there and you'll figure out the flow of things and when people are typically online. It's an active channel so don't get discouraged if it seems like no one's home, you're just experiencing bad timing. On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 9:22 PM, Tyson Thomas tysktho...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All! Been using Luna for a little bit over a month now and I am really impressed. I am wanting to contribute to this project and curious about any features that may need implementing or bugs to be squashed? I will admit I am not very familiar with using launchpad but I think I should be able to get use to it. Is there any style guide to adhere to or programming language preference? (I am assuming vala seems to be the preferred language for elementary applications?). Also is there any forums or IRC channel? And if an IRC Channel is it strictly on topic? Anyway, thanks for creating such an awesome OS :) Thank you! Tyson -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~**elementary-dev-communityhttps://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@**lists.launchpad.netelementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~**elementary-dev-communityhttps://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelphttps://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] App Center Status
I have been trying to catch Mario to tell him about this email. Mario originally co-developed libappstore with Lubuntu and based AppCenter on it but in the near future AppCenter will use an online database instead. He can tell you more about it if we are ever not busy at the same time for minute. On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Jim Nelson j...@yorba.org wrote: Speaking of the Elementary App Center, has there been any discussion about leveraging some of the work that Richard Hughes has done for the GNOME Software Center? -- Jim On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 5:05 PM, z...@zaneswafford.com z...@zaneswafford.com wrote: Hey Guys, I'm looking to make an application using the Vala / Gtk / Granite stack and was wondering about the status of the Elementary App Center. I've seen the launchpad page and article about it that was posted back in March. Has there had been further discussion or groundwork laid-out in regards to selling commercial software? Is there a guess at the ETA? Thanks for any and all assistance, - Zane -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] This might be a farewell
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rule_of_Two On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Kurt Smolderen kurt.smolde...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks for all the hard work, Schnatsel! I really think you helped building a 'nice touch of an operating system' All the best for your future plans! Kurt On 25-09-13 02:27, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff wrote: Hey guys, As some (if not most) of you already noticed, I don't frequently do elementary-related development or even show up on IRC anymore. I find myself more and more out of the loop as time passes, which renders me unable to fulfill my self-proclaimed role of OS architect. Besides, I feel that my job here is done.[1] The project doesn't truly need on me anymore, since I have passed on most of the unique knowledge/experience I possessed, and elementary already has people who know any specific area way better than I do anyway. Finally, turns out it's some boring to be a guru. I do miss the personal growth, the process of discovering and mastering the subject and learning to solve new kinds of problems. Thus I'm diverting my efforts to where they're more sorely needed, and diving into other fields of IT which I haven't yet mastered. Also, I figured I'll be looking for opportunities of full-time employment in a year's time or so, and I can already imagine myself saying ...and I spent a few years in open-source development, but I have no evidence to back that statement whatsoever. Also I have no formal reports on the quality of my work. So, while the memory of my past deeds is still fresh (more or less), anything that might prevent the above scenario is greatly appreciated. Yours faithfully, -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff Proud Contributor @ elementary [1] Okay, there's still a couple of things I want to influence, but they're mostly design-related, like FIX SWITCHING BETWEEN THE WINDOWS OF THE SAME APP VIA PLANK FOR DANRABBITS SAKE!!! -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Error compiling at launchpad
What package has gdu in it? On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 6:11 AM, Jose Luis Navarro jlnavarro...@gmail.comwrote: Hi everyone, I'm trying to compile a project to add it into my ppa but I get this error from launchpad: - checking for modules 'glib-2.0;gtk+-3.0;gdu;appindicator3-0.1;libnotify;granite' -- package 'gtk+-3.0' not found -- package 'gdu' not found -- package 'appindicator3-0.1' not found -- package 'libnotify' not found -- package 'granite' not found CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindPkgConfig.cmake:266 (message): A required package was not found Call Stack (most recent call first): /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindPkgConfig.cmake:320 (_pkg_check_modules_internal) CMakeLists.txt:9 (pkg_check_modules) -- Found Vala: /usr/bin/valac -- checking for a minimum Vala version of 0.16.0 -- found Vala, version 0.16.0 -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred! dh_auto_configure: cmake .. -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr -DCMAKE_VERBOSE_MAKEFILE=ON returned exit code 1 make: *** [build] Error 2 dpkg-buildpackage: error: debian/rules build gave error exit status 2 ** Build finished at 20130915-2303 FAILED [dpkg-buildpackage died] From: https://launchpad.net/~jlnavarro111/+archive/jlnavarro111/+build/4978235/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-amd64.extenal-storage-manager_0.1%2Br6-0%7Eubuntu12.04.1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz Someone know how fix it or what I forget to configure? Thanks -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Bake Build System
Debian considers Waf problematic due to being binary-distributed On Windows its pkg-config handling leaves to be desired https://bugs.launchpad.net/midori/+bug/1211909 On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Daniele S. oppifjel...@gmail.com wrote: There are a lot of build system out there. This one seems cool and clean but it's probably too bleeding edge. I suggest you to take a look at waf. Lots of project are switching to it. Daniele Il giorno 15/set/2013 01:08, Julien spautz.jul...@gmail.com ha scritto: Hey guys, I've lately been toying with a relatively recent build system called * bake*. It was created and is maintained by Robert Ancell and you can find the source code here: https://launchpad.net/bake. There isn't much documentation out there, but the manual will teach you most important things: https://answers.launchpad.net/bake/+faq/2172 $ bzr branch lp:bake $ cd bake $ yelp help So if you're like me and have no idea about cmake, bake might be the perfect alternative. It is *very* simple and requires practically no boiler code (unlike cmake). It would also be easier for new developers to set up their own projects. I'm pretty sure you want to see some actual implementation, so here it is: https://code.launchpad.net/~julien-spautz/cable/bake If you look at the diffs ( http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~julien-spautz/cable/bake/revision/137) you'll see that I added a few Recipe files, containing all the information bake needs, and at the same time got rid of all that cmake ugliness. Since Cable uses the same cmake template as the official elementary apps, this should work just as well with any other elementary app. If you want to try it yourself, here are some instructions: First install bake: $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bake-team/releases $ sudo apt-get update $ sudo apt-get install bake Now get my branch: $ bzr branch lp:~julien-spautz/cable/bake $ cd bake So far so good. Now let's build (make sure you have all the deps, you'll find them in /src/Recipe): $ bake There should now be an executable in src/ and one in tests/. How about cleaning up again? $ bake clean Installing? $ sudo bake install Running unit tests? (I know you all enjoy those TDD threads) $ bake test Creating a .deb package? $ bake release-deb (might take a while) If you're not in love yet I really don't know... I'll try to convert some other elementary apps to bake in the future, but I don't think it'll be very difficult. The biggest downside of bake is of course that it is still relatively new and therefore lacks complete documentation and tutorials and probably still has some important bugs. Otherwise I see no reason not to switch at some point in the future, be it for Isis, or Isis + 1 (but not later, srsly). What are your opinions? Has anyone else had any experience with it? -- Julien Spautz -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] [Merge] lp:~elementary-dev-community/pantheon-files/fix-1086929 into lp:pantheon-files
Special notes: Manually merge this and use --author flag to give Jeremy credit. A stable release of Files should be made RIGHT BEFORE this is merged -- https://code.launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community/pantheon-files/fix-1086929/+merge/183370 Your team elementary Developer Community is subscribed to branch lp:~elementary-dev-community/pantheon-files/fix-1086929. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] [Merge] lp:~elementary-dev-community/wingpanel/bug-fix-1007630 into lp:wingpanel
Compile with valac-0.16 only Sent from my iPhone On Aug 25, 2013, at 8:01 PM, Erasmo Marín erasmo.ma...@gmail.com wrote: It segfaults to me (stable luna) wingpanel [_LOG_LEVEL_INFO 20:57:38.238671] Application.vala:77: Wingpanel version: 0.2.4 [_LOG_LEVEL_INFO 20:57:38.238845] Application.vala:79: Kernel version: 3.8.0-27-generic [_LOG_LEVEL_WARN 20:57:38.424913] IndicatorFileModel.vala:60: SKIP LOADING: libappmenu.so [_LOG_LEVEL_FATAL 20:57:38.428324] [GLib-GObject] g_object_set: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed [_LOG_LEVEL_FATAL 20:57:38.428367] Wingpanel will not function properly. [_LOG_LEVEL_FATAL 20:57:38.439736] IndicatorFileModel.vala:91: Unable to load /usr/lib/indicators3/7/libindicator-terminal.so [_LOG_LEVEL_FATAL 20:57:38.439786] Wingpanel will not function properly. [_LOG_LEVEL_WARN 20:57:38.439863] [GLib-GObject] invalid unclassed pointer in cast to `GObject' [_LOG_LEVEL_FATAL 20:57:38.439930] [GLib-GObject] g_object_steal_data: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed [_LOG_LEVEL_FATAL 20:57:38.439962] Wingpanel will not function properly. [_LOG_LEVEL_WARN 20:57:38.439997] [GLib-GObject] invalid unclassed pointer in cast to `GObject' [_LOG_LEVEL_FATAL 20:57:38.440030] [GLib-GObject] g_object_steal_data: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed [_LOG_LEVEL_FATAL 20:57:38.440062] Wingpanel will not function properly. [_LOG_LEVEL_FATAL 20:57:38.440623] IndicatorFileModel.vala:91: Unable to load /usr/lib/indicators3/7/libapplication.so [_LOG_LEVEL_FATAL 20:57:38.440662] Wingpanel will not function properly. [_LOG_LEVEL_FATAL 20:57:38.443748] IndicatorFileModel.vala:91: Unable to load /usr/lib/indicators3/7/libdatetime.so [_LOG_LEVEL_FATAL 20:57:38.443820] Wingpanel will not function properly. [_LOG_LEVEL_WARN 20:57:38.444045] [Gtk] A floating object was finalized. This means that someonecalled g_object_unref() on an object that had only a floatingreference; the initial floating reference is not owned by anyoneand must be removed with g_object_ref_sink(). [_LOG_LEVEL_WARN 20:57:38.454013] [libindicator] IndicatorObject class does not create a menu. We need one of those. Violación de segmento -- https://code.launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community/wingpanel/bug-fix-1007630/+merge/181999 Your team elementary Pantheon team is requested to review the proposed merge of lp:~elementary-dev-community/wingpanel/bug-fix-1007630 into lp:wingpanel. -- https://code.launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community/wingpanel/bug-fix-1007630/+merge/181999 Your team elementary Developer Community is subscribed to branch lp:~elementary-dev-community/wingpanel/bug-fix-1007630. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Basing elementary on latest and greatest pieces of software
I'm working on it, I'd like to have it deployed by 14.04 but no promises. On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 12:53 AM, Nikos Vasilakis nikos.a...@gmail.comwrote: Hey Cody, what do we need in order to get our own repo and automated build infrastructure? Is it a hardware issue? Cheers, Nikos On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Cody Garver c...@elementaryos.orgwrote: Debian builds are possible when we get our own repo and automated build infrastructure. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2013, at 10:42 PM, Manish Sinha manishsi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hello everyone, I have thought, researched a lot before shooting this mail. It is a proposal to make elementary a great OS, even better than it is currently at the same time making sure the proposals are sane, achievable and realistic. Older packages when released - At the moment luna is based on precise. It is a good thing because Precise is LTS and supported for 5 years, but at the end of the day when luna is released, it is based on 1.5 years old snapshot of ubuntu plus some updates. Why not base next elementary on say debian testing or unstable. Maybe unstable is a bit too unstable, but testing should be fine. I am still not sure if GNOME would be vanilla or not, but atleast it won't be containing a lot of patches and radically different components than GNOME. This is just a suggestion. I would like to hear from people who maintain the archives and system architects. They would be knowing what issues can be faced in case elementary moves away from ubuntu or what can be even gained. - Manish -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Basing elementary on latest and greatest pieces of software
Debian builds are possible when we get our own repo and automated build infrastructure. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2013, at 10:42 PM, Manish Sinha manishsi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hello everyone, I have thought, researched a lot before shooting this mail. It is a proposal to make elementary a great OS, even better than it is currently at the same time making sure the proposals are sane, achievable and realistic. Older packages when released - At the moment luna is based on precise. It is a good thing because Precise is LTS and supported for 5 years, but at the end of the day when luna is released, it is based on 1.5 years old snapshot of ubuntu plus some updates. Why not base next elementary on say debian testing or unstable. Maybe unstable is a bit too unstable, but testing should be fine. I am still not sure if GNOME would be vanilla or not, but atleast it won't be containing a lot of patches and radically different components than GNOME. This is just a suggestion. I would like to hear from people who maintain the archives and system architects. They would be knowing what issues can be faced in case elementary moves away from ubuntu or what can be even gained. - Manish -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Moving Away From Ubuntu
PPAs. On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Conscious User consciousu...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, Some time ago, I have noticed that an app I'm developing had some rendering issues only when the Ubuntu overlay scrollbars were being used. When I took this to Ubuntu developers, I was told that my best chance was to patch the scrollbars myself because no one was currently working on them. This is a symptom of something that, for anyone who's been following the Ubuntu developer community, should be quite evident at this point: due to the move to QML and touch, GTK and the rest of the stack Ubuntu had been using will now be second-class citizens, and it is only a matter of time before this change of status starts to gradually creep into overall stability and speed of fixing bugs. This wouldn't be much of a problem if Ubuntu simply packaged and shipped a vanilla GNOME stack, but the problem is that they ship a patched stack mixed with unpolished Ayatana projects which might now never get any more polish. And this might get worse with the move to Mir, as Canonical will probably need to add and maintain Mir support to GTK by itself. My intention here is not to question any direction Canonical is taking, but to question how much it still makes sense to build elementary on top of Ubuntu instead of a distro that uses a more vanilla GNOME stack or at least one that still treats it as a first-class citizen. It might be a good time to have a serious discussion on this. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Moving Away From Ubuntu
My sentence ran out of fuel there. PPAs are immensely valuable and eclipse any popular sentiment right now. On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Cody Garver c...@elementaryos.org wrote: PPAs. On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Conscious User consciousu...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, Some time ago, I have noticed that an app I'm developing had some rendering issues only when the Ubuntu overlay scrollbars were being used. When I took this to Ubuntu developers, I was told that my best chance was to patch the scrollbars myself because no one was currently working on them. This is a symptom of something that, for anyone who's been following the Ubuntu developer community, should be quite evident at this point: due to the move to QML and touch, GTK and the rest of the stack Ubuntu had been using will now be second-class citizens, and it is only a matter of time before this change of status starts to gradually creep into overall stability and speed of fixing bugs. This wouldn't be much of a problem if Ubuntu simply packaged and shipped a vanilla GNOME stack, but the problem is that they ship a patched stack mixed with unpolished Ayatana projects which might now never get any more polish. And this might get worse with the move to Mir, as Canonical will probably need to add and maintain Mir support to GTK by itself. My intention here is not to question any direction Canonical is taking, but to question how much it still makes sense to build elementary on top of Ubuntu instead of a distro that uses a more vanilla GNOME stack or at least one that still treats it as a first-class citizen. It might be a good time to have a serious discussion on this. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Vala Game Development
Topher, the Vala Google+ community is small but responsive. https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/113287185626826620884 On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Topher Redden christopher.red...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a Vala community anywhere? By the way, I'm interested in this for sure. On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.orgwrote: I think this list is more focused on development of elementary itself. If there isn't one already perhaps we need a (third party) apps community list? Best Regards, Daniel Foré El jun 14, 2013, a las 4:27 p.m., Craig webe...@gmail.com escribió: Thanks David, As I mentioned, I selected this list for the community. Is there a preferred way to contact Elementary developers for matters not pertaining directly to the Elementary project? I would really like to see your projects. Please do post them! Thanks again, Craig On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 6:24 PM, David Gomes da...@elementaryos.orgwrote: I've made two game prototypes using Vala - one 2D and one 3D, if you'd like the source code I can post it here. Regarding the convenience of this mailing list for that post, this is not really the place (vala-list would be more suitable), but I guess it's not a big deal either. On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:30 PM, Craig webe...@gmail.com wrote: I was wondering if anyone would be interested in experimenting around with making a simple 2D game with Vala, basically as a proof-of-concept. As it stands, C++ is the language of choice for game development, and as a professional C++ developer, I find this tragic. My primary goals for this project are to 1) help free the game development community from tedious languages 2) introduce Vala to a new genre of developer 3) learn a little more about both Vala and game development and share any applicable experiences with the broader community I don't have any serious expectation for this to become a real game (but it might)--mostly I'm interested in the experiment and having low-commitment fun. I know this isn't necessarily the right mailing list for this request, but I enjoy the feel of this community and would like to see if anyone here is interested before reaching out to broader audiences. At this point, my thoughts are extremely abstract and my mind is very open (I don't have any fixed plans for what this can look like, so you're welcome to help craft the vision). I don't expect this to be anyone's primary commitment (and I certainly don't want to detract from elementary development time), but if you're getting the programmer's equivalent of writer's block and you'd like to try something purely for fun (or if you'd like to learn to develop *so you can* start to contribute to Elementary), feel free to reply. Again, apologies if anyone finds this inappropriate for this list. Thanks for your time, Craig -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Elementary-dev-community] Crossing the Rubicon: Transitioning Luna from Daily PPA to Testing
Those interested in tracking the progress of transitioning all Luna code from the Daily PPA to the Testing PPA can watch this Google Dochttps://docs.google.com/a/elementaryos.org/document/d/1kK7nYLtyUcB4IklMYmps9_rzachD7k1GweG3OpqWqdM/edit . Once things are working perfectly in the Testing PPA, its contents will fill the Stable PPA, with which we will generate our next public ISO. That ISO will NOT necessarily be the stable, final release of Luna, but it will technically be much much closer to a final release than building from Daily PPA snapshots. DO NOT ADD THE TESTING PPA TO YOUR SYSTEM. It will almost certainly *BREAK YOUR SYSTEM*. And besides, the code there tends to be outdated when compared to Daily PPA code. -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] A Possible bug
This is a bug in X and the only solution is Wayland. Please report bugs onthe elementary bug trackerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryfrom now on. On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Ramana Venkata idlike2dr...@gmail.comwrote: Its only as long as the the popup is open. The print screen key works fine after that. I was trying to report some bug to Noise Bug list. Then I wanted a screen shot where I have to show the pop-up. On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 5:04 AM, Gufran dogab...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome abroad :) What do you mean by the key doesn't work after right clicking on dock item (Plank dock, I guess). Does it stop working at all or just dont work for as long as the popup is open ? Are you trying to do something that is expected or just trying stuff ? On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 4:40 AM, Ramana Venkata idlike2dr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I am new here. I have been a ubuntu user for more than 2 years or so. I came to know about elementary OS 2 days back. I fell in love with its user interface. I want to thank all you for giving us a great OS. I couldn't use print screen key of my Laptop (Lenovo G560 i3 1st Gen) after right clicking on a dock icon. I don't whether it is a bug or not so I am reporting it here. -- Venkata Ramana K. -- Venkata Ramana K. Sophomore, Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore, India. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Remove April 7th iso from unstable/ on SourceForge
It passed our standard test for unstable ISOs, Does it boot?. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 7:43 AM, David Gomes da...@elementaryos.org wrote: Hey there, We're getting many users on #elementary complaining about broken package manager and PPAs on the April 7th iso. I'm not sure who uploaded a broken iso, but please test isos before uploading them because we're basically fooling users. Sure, they know it's unstable before downloading it, but still, we should try to be as stable as possible. tl;dr; Somebody who controls the Sourceforge page please remove latest uploaded iso. Regards, David Munchor Gomes -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Remove April 7th iso from unstable/ on SourceForge
Haha, good point, I thought about that after I hit Send. What errors are they having besides initrd.img not found? Cannot upgrade from luna to precise? apt-get update 404s? I'm deleting it now that I'm near my computer. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:17 AM, David Gomes da...@elementaryos.orgwrote: Still, can't we please remove it? We're getting far too many people on #elementary who have installed and asking for help. Also, the iso doesn't even boot for most iso burning apps, only on Unetbootin, so it doesn't really pass the Does It Boot test either. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Cody Garver c...@elementaryos.orgwrote: It passed our standard test for unstable ISOs, Does it boot?. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 7:43 AM, David Gomes da...@elementaryos.orgwrote: Hey there, We're getting many users on #elementary complaining about broken package manager and PPAs on the April 7th iso. I'm not sure who uploaded a broken iso, but please test isos before uploading them because we're basically fooling users. Sure, they know it's unstable before downloading it, but still, we should try to be as stable as possible. tl;dr; Somebody who controls the Sourceforge page please remove latest uploaded iso. Regards, David Munchor Gomes -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Remove April 7th iso from unstable/ on SourceForge
The bug can be tracked here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1169622 On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:29 AM, David Gomes da...@elementaryos.orgwrote: They can't install any packages AFAIK, broken dependencies I believe. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Cody Garver c...@elementaryos.orgwrote: Haha, good point, I thought about that after I hit Send. What errors are they having besides initrd.img not found? Cannot upgrade from luna to precise? apt-get update 404s? I'm deleting it now that I'm near my computer. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:17 AM, David Gomes da...@elementaryos.orgwrote: Still, can't we please remove it? We're getting far too many people on #elementary who have installed and asking for help. Also, the iso doesn't even boot for most iso burning apps, only on Unetbootin, so it doesn't really pass the Does It Boot test either. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Cody Garver c...@elementaryos.orgwrote: It passed our standard test for unstable ISOs, Does it boot?. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 7:43 AM, David Gomes da...@elementaryos.orgwrote: Hey there, We're getting many users on #elementary complaining about broken package manager and PPAs on the April 7th iso. I'm not sure who uploaded a broken iso, but please test isos before uploading them because we're basically fooling users. Sure, they know it's unstable before downloading it, but still, we should try to be as stable as possible. tl;dr; Somebody who controls the Sourceforge page please remove latest uploaded iso. Regards, David Munchor Gomes -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Cody Garver -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Testing
Our m̶o̶s̶t̶ ̶e̶f̶f̶e̶c̶t̶i̶v̶e̶ only regression testing is in Files. It goes Cody, I think I fixed crash X and I add it to my list of crash report email titles I look for to reoccur. On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 8:25 AM, David Gomes da...@elementaryos.org wrote: Unit testing is boring to write so if we just said Everybody. Write unit tests. All Projects. Now. it would really take on. On companies and when developers are paid to work, they can write and put tests everywhere, but it's harder for us. For now what we just do is we test the interface, the new features and some old features too to see if they remain unaffected. On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Craig webe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, I'm curious what you devs do for testing? I'm not particularly familiar with Vala, but I'm learning a lot about testing at work and I'm trying to develop myself to that end in my free time. I'm sending this email because I'd like to get a pulse on what you Elementary devs think about testing and what you actually do to test your code. Also, please feel encouraged to talk about what you've done in the past, what has/hasn't worked for you, and generally what your philosophy is about testing (or whether you have no philosophy). Individual comments and comments on behalf of elementary as a whole are both welcome. Sound off! Thanks, Craig -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Elementary-dev-community] Wayland discussion on on GNOME mailing list
GNOME guys are talking about Wayland and it's near-future relationship with them. It may have some interesting info that impacts us. https://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2013-March/msg00087.html Also, our own shnatsel wrote a couple of articles about Mir recently: http://shnatsel.blogspot.com/2013/03/yet-another-opinion-on-mir-you-never.html http://shnatsel.blogspot.com/2013/03/why-your-desktop-wont-be-running.html -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Noise doesn't comply to HIG
After using it a while, I decided I don't like this behavior. On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:53 AM, Nishant Agrwal nishantagrwal12...@gmail.com wrote: I was reading this page of the HIG: http://elementaryos.org/docs/human-interface-guidelines/user-workflow/background-tasks I couldn't help noticing that the page specifically mentions the expected behaviour from a music player, yet Noise minimizing instead of hiding the window completely. Just thought I'd point it out. Thoughts? -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Elementary-dev-community] AppCenter won't be part of Luna
A couple nights ago Dan approached me about the idea of including AppCenter in Luna because it was nearing its 0.1 release. After some debate (however much you think he hates Ubuntu Software Center is not enough), we decided together that it was worth trialing. Well, we trialed it enough before it even made it to the ISO to determine that it was not ready and the lengths we'd have to go to to get it ready were not worth the gain at this point. So I just removed it from the Luna milestone(s). Get 'em next time, AppCenter. -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Fwd: Testing new ISOs
That's great, Ivo! On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Ivo Nunes i...@elementaryos.org wrote: I've just pushed a commit to lp:elementaryos that should make the ISOs boot through UEFI. I tested it on my PC and it worked, although I'm not sure if it works with secure boot enabled (my motherboard doesn't have secure boot). I should have some new ISOs uploaded by tomorrow, testing will be appreciated :) Em Dom, 10 de Mar, 2013 às 21:35, Cody Garver c...@elementaryos.org escreveu: Ivo is investigating this error. On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Mensur Zahirovic linuxsaj...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Saw that i only replied to David so if anyone else wants to get involved read my post above. Cheerz! Forwarded conversation Subject: [Elementary-dev-community] Testing new ISOs From: *David Gomes* da...@elementaryos.org Date: 2013/3/9 To: elementary-dev-community elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Hello everyone, As many of you probably already know, we are now building ISOs again. This is great news, of course, but we need some testers for a couple of things on the new builds. 1. NVIDIA fixes 2. UEFI boot First of all, you can find the new ISOs herehttps://sourceforge.net/projects/elementaryos/files/unstable/and UEFI is now (supposedly) working well. I'm not exactly sure of what happened with NVIDIA but I think we're shipping some different (more recent) drivers that fix many problems. If you have some time for flashing the latest iso and booting it, please reply to this post so that we can get some very needed feedback. Best regards, David Munchor Gomes -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- From: *Mensur Zahirovic* linuxsaj...@gmail.com Date: 2013/3/10 To: David Gomes da...@elementaryos.org Hi, Im getting huge problem with latest iso. Downloaded http://sourceforge.net/projects/elementaryos/files/unstable/elementaryos-unstable-amd64.20130308.iso/download and i have windows 8 on this computer. I have made bootable usb with this iso on it and it boot and the E logo comes up but i get fatal error. (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/3.5.0-23-generic/modules.dep: No such file or directory. Is there a file missing on this iso? Cheerz /Nookie 2013/3/9 David Gomes da...@elementaryos.org -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Help needed for launch video and progress so far
I really like the rolling e. Would it look better if Midori remained present while web browser appears so they can be more closely associated? On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 3:09 PM, piggy classy thisispi...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, I've given up on trying to record a screencast on my laptop. I tried Kazam and Eidete, and both are very laggy. I then installed Luna via VM Player in Windows, but the recording from it also stutters. So, could some one with a reasonably speedy computer with 16:9 ratio screen help me with the screencasts? It's really simple, I'll send you my laggy version of it for you to re-record on your laptop. Then, you send your version back. In the mean time, I've made some progress with the intro animation (watch in full screen with 1080p. It really makes a difference): Luna.mp4https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B62T4F5hnnXCRmxsN0MzNHJ5MFE/edit Even though it's only 5 seconds long, it took a lot of planning to make. Simple text transitions like the first videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw3fGLFqjHs I made? Not so much. The animation here with the logo and elementary os luna mimics the fluid windows/popup animation that Luna has. Then, the animation for all in two minutes (suggestion for a better four word phrase, please?) is animated mimicking that of the shutdown dialog (card stack up/down) and key framed one by one to fit the music. More animation will then be added with drums building up tension, leading to the introduction of individual apps in a similar manner: Midori.mp4https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B62T4F5hnnXCTThwWmJnWTdzTzQ/edit And thus, we now have a very clean, organized, and informative way of presenting what's new in Luna, instead of random meaningless adjectives and clips. What you guys think? Piggy -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] TV Display Not Detected
Uninstall your proprietary drivers and see what happens, at least regarding the lag. I have a little experience with xrandr and dual monitors, what does this output when your tv is plugged in?: xrandr -q This is a very strange case if your tv is HDMI and not working automatically. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2013, at 6:07 PM, piggy classy thisispi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I've been working on making the launch video. One of the things I had hoped to do was to connect my TV to my laptop as a secondary monitor. This way, I can record with a higher resolution and thus can zoom in to particular parts of the screen without things getting blurry. This is my laptop: Dell XPS 15-L502x Geforce GT 525M I'm connecting my TV to it via HDMI. But nothing shows up. Only my laptop is shown as available in Displays, Clicking Detect Displays does nothing. It would be great if I could get some help from you guys. Piggy -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] ARM enablement nearly complete; testing needed
Don't use 13.04. On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Sam Tate s...@mtate.me.uk wrote: OK it looks like its broken. Gala (and loads of other vital packages) seem to be showing failed builds for armhf on Launchpad: Build status [image: [MANUALDEPWAIT]] Dependency wait on wani06 (arm ppa builder)https://launchpad.net/builders/wani06 - Missing build dependencies: *libplank-dev* - Started on 2012-12-26 - Finished on 2012-12-26 (took 2 minutes, 34.0 seconds) I'm assuming this is why I can't install it... On 3 January 2013 23:32, Sam Tate s...@mtate.me.uk wrote: sam@nexus7:~$ sudo apt-get install -f pantheon maya midori-granite plank noise pantheon-files pantheonon-greeter pantheon-shell pantheon-terminal scratch-text-editor slingshot-launcher wingpanel Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Package slingshot-launcher is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source Package wingpanel is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source Package plank is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source Package maya is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source Package midori-granite is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source However the following packages replace it: elementary-default-settings Package noise is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source Package pantheon-files is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source Package pantheon-terminal is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source Package scratch-text-editor is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package 'maya' has no installation candidate E: Package 'midori-granite' has no installation candidate E: Package 'plank' has no installation candidate E: Package 'noise' has no installation candidate E: Package 'pantheon-files' has no installation candidate E: Unable to locate package pantheonon-greeter E: Package 'pantheon-terminal' has no installation candidate E: Package 'scratch-text-editor' has no installation candidate E: Package 'slingshot-launcher' has no installation candidate E: Package 'wingpanel' has no installation candidate On 3 January 2013 20:49, Sam Tate s...@mtate.me.uk wrote: Alright, it's downloading. You'll have to wait a little while for the video though - my internet is going at like 1Mbps. On 3 January 2013 19:49, Sam Tate s...@mtate.me.uk wrote: Only problem is - it seemed like a huge pain in the arse to get Ubuntu working last time I checked. I'll give it a go though :) On 3 Jan 2013 19:45, Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.org wrote: Do it Sam! Best Regards, Daniel Foré El ene 3, 2013, a las 11:06 a.m., Sam Tate s...@mtate.me.uk escribió: So this means elementary on my Nexus 7? I might try this and record a video On 3 Jan 2013 11:25, Craig Errington craigerring...@gmail.com wrote: I've just installed the Pantheon group from the daily ppa on a Samsung ARM Chromebook running an Ubuntu Build.. Everything installed fine and is running great. The only issue is the FBDEV xorg driver I'm using isn't rendering pantheon brilliantly. I'm going to switch over to the amsoc driver later today to try it out instead. On 15 December 2012 00:38, Cody Garver c...@elementaryos.org wrote: Great news! Posted it to reddithttps://lists.launchpad.net/elementary-dev-community/msg01889.html . On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org wrote: Hey guys, The armhf enablement of Daily PPA is nearly complete now. The only remaining items are failed builds of some Switchboard plugs which should resolve themselves in an hour or two. In all other respects armhf situation is 1:1 equal to the i386 and amd64 ones. And guess what it means? Exactly - it's time to test this stuff! If you happen to be running Ubuntu's armhf port, please take a backup of your system (just in case), add ppa:elementary-os/daily to your software
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Compiz is dead
Rip in peace flame-bursting windows. Is it wishful thinking to hope libmutter will do all the wayland work for us? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 29, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Sergey \Shnatsel\ Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org wrote: Prooflink: http://smspillaz.wordpress.com/2012/12/24/sideways/ Libmutter may be not as great as it sounds because it bears an enormous legacy of X11 hacks and quirks back from Metacity days. I wish there was libweston that worked like libmutter for wayland instead of weston being a collection of completely random features that follow no UX guidelines at all. -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] ARM enablement nearly complete; testing needed
Great news! Posted it to reddithttps://lists.launchpad.net/elementary-dev-community/msg01889.html . On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org wrote: Hey guys, The armhf enablement of Daily PPA is nearly complete now. The only remaining items are failed builds of some Switchboard plugs which should resolve themselves in an hour or two. In all other respects armhf situation is 1:1 equal to the i386 and amd64 ones. And guess what it means? Exactly - it's time to test this stuff! If you happen to be running Ubuntu's armhf port, please take a backup of your system (just in case), add ppa:elementary-os/daily to your software sources and install the pantheon package (or cherrypick whatever dependencies of it you prefer). Then check out how apps work (and if they work at all) and report your findings to this mailing list! I don't anticipate any major issues in applications because all Vala code is translated to C+GLib code and thus is portable by definition. Also, we're not yet in a position to consider any crashes appearing on ARM architecture-specific :) I don't code in Vala myself so developers may correct me on this point further in this thread. Still, SoCs may have different performance bottlenecks than desktops do, so please report anything that works unusually slowly. The situation with Pantheon Shell is more interesting. In theory, Gala should run on OpenGL ES 2.0 (and OpenGL 1.3 too, which took me by surprise). However, I'm not aware of anybody actually trying that. So if you happen to have hardware 3D acceleration on your ARM device, please test Gala and report your findings. Don't forget to include the output of es2_info command! Also, it would be nice to be able to retrace Apport crashes submitted from armhf, so that developers can investigate and fix them. This requires an armhf-capable machine to run the retracer on. If you have any resources to spare on an armhf-capable server you run, or know how to set up ARMv7 emulation on amd64, please contact me. Kudos to Rico for making the armhf enablement happen! -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Linux 3.5 in Luna
It's looking like this is a problem with Ubuntu's package. It's still being investigated. On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 6:30 AM, Cody Garver c...@elementaryos.org wrote: I just built an ISO using Congrego's build_amd64.sh and it still produced kernel 3.2. On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.orgwrote: I have Nvidia graphics, so here goes nothing. Downloading ;D On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org wrote: One more thing: the 3.5 kernel will be supported during the Quantal lifecycle, and then it will be upgraded to whatever ships in 14.04 LTS. The 3.2 kernel, on the other hand, will be supported for 5 years (gosh!). -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, Daniel Foré elementaryos.org -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Unicode ellipsis
You are all right. Report a bug and Also Affect the relevant projects. Set the bug status to Triaged and we will handle it in the future. The only project that comes to mind first that uses an ellipsis is Files. On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Alfredo Hernández aldomann.desi...@gmail.com wrote: I was about to write about this too. In my honest opinion, this would be a very good detail. But my answer is, can this be done before Luna's release? Since we have lots of translation teams, it would take quite long to translate those strings again. El 05/12/2012 14:06, David Gomes da...@elementaryos.org escribió: Hey guys, I just read this ( http://worldofgnome.org/gnome-to-use-the-unicode-ellipsis-instead-of-three-periods/ ). I was thinking maybe we should make the switch too? What are everybody's opinions on this? I know this is not a priority, but details matter and I'm curious. David Munchor Gomes -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] How many luna-beta2 bugs?
Thanks guys, no more excuses for how much time I waste counting them. On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Aditya Vaidya kroq.ga...@gmail.comwrote: Here's a slightly better one (1 less instance of curl) using a simple regex: echo $(expr $(curl https://launchpad.net/elementary/+milestone/luna-beta2| grep -c sprite milestone) - $(curl https://launchpad.net/elementary/+milestone/luna-beta2 | egrep -c Fix Committed|Released)) In my opinion, using 'wget' instead of 'curl' here is better (less output): echo $(expr $(wget https://launchpad.net/elementary/+milestone/luna-beta2-q -O-| grep -c sprite milestone) - $(wget https://launchpad.net/elementary/+milestone/luna-beta2 -q -O- | egrep -c Fix Committed|Released)) Strangely, though, these give me 1 more bug than your script. I got 109 from yours and 110 from mine. I'm pretty sure there's a much easier way with just one command, but I can't get it to work properly. Regardless, that's needless optimization for this simple task, in my opinion ;) Sincerely, kroq-gar78 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:36 AM, David Gomes da...@elementaryos.orgwrote: Actually, because Shnatsel told me I could do this in Bash, I went ahead this and turned it into a Bash one-liner: echo $(expr $(curl https://launchpad.net/elementary/+milestone/luna-beta2| grep -c sprite milestone) - $(curl https://launchpad.net/elementary/+milestone/luna-beta2 | grep -c Fix Committed) - $(curl https://launchpad.net/elementary/+milestone/luna-beta2 | grep -c Fix Released)) That will output the *exact* number of bugs left for luna-beta2, my original script wasn't as precise as that. Right now? 113 bugs. On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:06 PM, David Gomes da...@elementaryos.orgwrote: Curious about how many luna-beta2 bugs there are? I wrote a Python 3 script (attached) that counts the number of unfixed bugs for luna-beta2 from the luna-beta2 milestone page on Launchpad. It has a rather small margin of error and it's a bit hacky. Right now, we're at over 100 bugs. David Munchor Gomes -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Back button for switchboard
The bug for what app(s) should include this is in the future is bug #1039269https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1039269. What other apps should it Also Affect? On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Alfredo Hernández aldomann.desi...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for the standardisation. El 25/11/2012 00:32, Cassidy James cass...@elementaryos.org escribió: It would also be interesting to look at standardizing that sort of button. iOS has its back button like that iirc, and Android has what they call an up button that is standardized and provides a similar behavior. If we were to go this route, it'd need to be written into the HIG since it deviates from our current story of only having icons in the toolbar. Which is okay as long as it's specific and has a clear use case. Something like: A back button is a toolbar button with the text of the page the user will be going back to if they click it. It is always at the far left of the toolbar, has a raised appearance with an arrow shape, and does not contain an icon. This button should only appear when there is a main view of an app to go back to. That's just a rough stream of thought as an example of what we could put in the HIG. We could then add it into Granite to get the styling and behavior perfect (and to prevent duplicate work from devs). This would all be post-Luna of course. Thoughts? On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org wrote: I can add that GNOME has recently introduced a show all icon. The icon shown in the mockup is not a simple tweak, so let's leave it as is till Luna+1. We're past feature freeze after all. 2012/11/23 Alfredo Hernández **: It's much better than the current implementation. IMHO, a 'Show all' button gives more information this a home button. El 23/11/2012 14:58, Jaap Broekhuizen ** escribió: I saw Andrea did a proposal for adding a nice back button on switchboard a few months ago: https://bugs.launchpad.net/switchboard/+bug/1039269 I think this is a good idea to implement, because it looks great, and the current implementation with a button that keeps switching between an arrow and a home button is a bit weird. I had to think about how that worked and i don't think we want that :) So what do you guys think of this? -- Jaap -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Rename app launchers
Would the patches only affect English? On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Jaap Broekhuizen jaap...@gmail.com wrote: We already had this discussion a few times, i don't know what the decision was though. -- Jaap On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Alfredo Hernández aldomann.desi...@gmail.com wrote: It seems to be an excellent approach to the problem by now, in that way they still keep their package codenames. However the renaming of the codenames should be studied in Luna+1. El 23/11/2012 19:31, Mario Guerriero mefri...@gmail.com escribió: Hi guys, discussing with Victor about the Noise's renaming issue I suggested him to not rename anything. We can use a little workaround to fix this issue. We should put a .diff in deb-packaging branch in order to patch the .desktop launcher to change its name to Music. The same should be done with Scratch, Maya and Geary using the generic names. (Text editor, Calendar, Mail). Victor said he likes this approach. What do you think? Best regards, Mario -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Rename app launchers
@Jaap this was the plan until today: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/noise/+spec/noise-rename On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Cody Garver c...@elementaryos.org wrote: Would the patches only affect English? On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Jaap Broekhuizen jaap...@gmail.comwrote: We already had this discussion a few times, i don't know what the decision was though. -- Jaap On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Alfredo Hernández aldomann.desi...@gmail.com wrote: It seems to be an excellent approach to the problem by now, in that way they still keep their package codenames. However the renaming of the codenames should be studied in Luna+1. El 23/11/2012 19:31, Mario Guerriero mefri...@gmail.com escribió: Hi guys, discussing with Victor about the Noise's renaming issue I suggested him to not rename anything. We can use a little workaround to fix this issue. We should put a .diff in deb-packaging branch in order to patch the .desktop launcher to change its name to Music. The same should be done with Scratch, Maya and Geary using the generic names. (Text editor, Calendar, Mail). Victor said he likes this approach. What do you think? Best regards, Mario -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] elementary Apps Team Icon
Haha, yeah it's the default app icon from the elementaryicons theme. On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 11:00 AM, David Gomes da...@elementaryos.orgwrote: Actually, I just realised elementary Apps _HAS_ an icon, but it's so gray I thought that was the default one. \facepaw On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Victor Eduardo vic...@elementaryos.orgwrote: ORLY! xD On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org wrote: FYI, AppCenter project uses Launchpad's default project icon. 2012/11/23 Victor Eduardo vic...@elementaryos.org: I think we could temporarily use the same icon of AppCenter. On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 10:25 AM, David Gomes da...@elementaryos.org wrote: Even though I do realise this is not a priority, it'd be great if elementary Apps Team had an icon on Launchpad (https://launchpad.net/~elementary-apps). Anybody has any ideas? Thanks. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] VA-API in Audience/elementary?
GStreamer needs to support hardware-accelerated playback in order for Audience/Totem to. On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Cassidy James c...@ssidyjam.es wrote: Hey guys, I was just reading about hardware acceleration support in MPlayer and was wondering if anyone knew anything about it. http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/install-mplayer-with-va-api-hardware.html It'd be sweet to get hardware acceleration for video in Audience to significantly reduce memory usage on some graphics chipsets. Unless I'm totally mistaken and Audience already supports this, what would it take to get this in it by default? Regards, Cassidy James -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Switchboard Restructure
This was proposed for merge before and Disapproved by DanRabbit. On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, David Gomes da...@elementaryos.org wrote: obviously I prefer this very much and don't see why not for Luna as long as no bugs are associated with it. On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Sam Tate s...@mtate.me.uk wrote: How do we all feel about this new layout for Switchboard? Obviously this isn't for Luna, but I think it's really nice, and we can switch (heh) to it in L+1. Objections? -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Renaming Noise
I'm for Music. I also think music is what development should center around and leave podcasts and maybe even radio to separate apps. Podcasts because they really need a store experience, otherwise you'd be better off just subscribing to them in an RSS aggregator. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 20, 2012, at 3:05 PM, Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.org wrote: Just my two cents: It'd be really easy to just call it Music and not worry about it any longer haha. I don't think we should translate the name unless we're going with Music. Translating a branded name would kind of defeat the purpose, IMO and (as previously pointed out) could lead to some not-so-nice translations. I didn't really intend Noise to be a serious name, but I don't have any massive problems with it either. I do agree with Victor that if we're going to do a name change it needs to happen as soon as humanly possible. On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Jose Luis Navarro jlnavarro...@gmail.comwrote: @Victor +1 El 19/11/2012 19:42, xapantu xapa...@gmail.com escribió: Le 19/11/2012 17:43, Benjamin VanMeggelen a écrit : I understand the issue with the translation. From what I understand (as french being my second language) the translation from Noise to french is Bruit. I'm not sure if the application titles have been (or will be) translated, but if so Bruit gives the same proper description of what Noise is in english. I hope it doesn't, IIRC bruit is much more negative than noise. bruit is just something you don't want to hear, when you say music is bruit, it means that the music is very, very bad. And no, the names aren't (or shouldn't?) be translated ;) (But as Corentin said, noise is not much better than bruit is french anyway.) Lucas On Mon, 19 Nov, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Corentin Noël tin...@mailoo.orgtin...@mailoo.orgwrote: Okay, I disagree with you all then because in my language (french) there is two way to pronounce that : In french, and that word exists and means problems In english, and that is really hard because there is an double voyel (no-ise) so it's not that good for us. I let the democracy choose, but here are my two cents. Regards, Corentin Noël (tintou) Benjamin VanMeggelen ** a écrit : I also agree that Noise is an appropriate name for the player. I feel that this naming scheme is most relevant to the player, as opposed to Tempo or some of the others that have been mentioned. Noise seems more generic and straight-forward as to what the app is meant to do. On Mon, 19 Nov, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Felix Akkermans ** wrote: I also agree with Jaap. Both names are equal to me in communicational value, so definitely not worth the effort and hassle. On 11/19/2012 03:46 PM, Chris Triantafillis wrote: I agree with Jaap and i'm against rename it... Also i don't like Tempo, Noise is much better... 2012/11/19 Jaap Broekhuizen ** Don't we already present Noise in the OS as a music player? Doesn't the icon have the purpose of showing the user what the app probably does? IMO Noise relates more to music than Tempo does. Also, if we are going this way with Noise because the name should directly show people what the app does, we should probably rename Geary and Midori too. And the makers of Empathy, Skype, Spotify, Steam, Firefox, Opera, Launchpad, Google Plus, Banshee, Clementine should probably have to start to think about a new name too. When we moved from Beatbox to our own fork the choice was made to name it Noise. That already resulted in some confusion among the users. Renaming it again will only yet again result in more confusion. There will always be people who say a certain name is not good for the app, or that it is weird. The same will happen when you rename it to Tempo, or any other name for that matter. IMO Noise should only be renamed if there is a really, really good reason to, and some users complaining it may sound negative is a good reason, i think. Also when you choose to rename it, the new name should be significantly better than the old name, if you want to show the confused users that it was really necessary and useful to make the change. Just my two cents, Jaap Op ma, nov 19, 2012 at 3:14 ,David Gomes ** schreef: It's trivial to you because you know what Noise is. It's a media player, you know it. For people who don't, it's better if that name it is installed under in the computer is Music Player or something like that. It's easier for most people. On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Jaap Broekhuizen | Mobiel ** wrote: What is many? Seems like a trivial thing to me... -- Jaap Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff **schreef: 2012/11/19 Jaap Broekhuizen **: Is there an actual logical reason to rename Noise? Noise is perceived as something negative by many (the kind of people who are not crazy about metal or industrial), that's it AFAIK. -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list:
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Fwd: Startup Applications
The previous plug you are talking about was the Details applet that GNOME Control Center uses. It was discarded because it had too much going on. There is a bug requesting a better, native plug herehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/pantheon-plugs/+bug/1022840 . It is very very unlikely this will change for Luna since we are well past feature freeze, but it would be great to have 100% native plugs in Luna+1. On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org wrote: I believe this belongs to the list. -- Forwarded message -- From: Eduard Gotwig got...@ubuntu.com Date: 2012/11/18 Subject: Startup Applications To: Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org Hey, I currently see that there is no plug for Startup Applications, but rather there is a window poping out. I know that we had a startup applications plug in the past, so I ask why do we use now this not embedded solution. Implementing something good, wouldnt take too long. I would like to see, adding applications easly by their .desktop files, like in privacy plug. Like to hear from you, you can forward this to the dev community mailing list. Greetings, -- Eduard Gotwig Tiu persono estas oni Esperantiston. Ubuntu TZM Member FLOSS Dev @ Launchpad -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] We are drowning in bugs. Web Team, halp!!1
@gnomeuser: You are right, the bugs are slowing down and we have found most of the dupes after a lot of time spent. If you are up to it, just browse through the default bug trackerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+bugs?orderby=statusstart=0they land at intervals and see what's in the wrong place and move it or comment that it should be moved or find its duplicate. The rest of the projects with bug trackers are listed herehttps://launchpad.net/elementary . The Testing page could be dynamic and only show up immediately post releases since it could be seen as not always necessary. Copy pasted from IRC: I would say 60%+ of the bugs that were reported since the beta started are duplicates, it takes valuable developer time to sort them We need a mockup for a section of the website called Testers or Testing and it needs links to each project's bug tracker. And probably a nice note about Before you report a bug, be sure to check its respective bug tracker to reduce the amount of duplicate bugs reported. I don't know how it could be pretty though then on social media and blog we could say be sure to visit the Testers/Testing section before reporting a bug I think that's the most we can do I would like for the page to have a big searchbox to search bugs cross projects before reporting but I don't think that's possible Top Bugs would be cool too for each project but again, probably not possible On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 10:56 AM, gnomeu...@gmail.com gnomeu...@gmail.comwrote: Den 17/11/2012 00.53 skrev Cody Garver c...@elementaryos.org: One of the new issues we have experienced since the start of the beta is, in addition to a large number of legitimate bug reports, we are getting a large number of duplicate bug reports. A possible solution to alleviate the flood is to slap up a Testers section on the website. I think it makes sense since we already target a specific audience, Developers, so why not target the larger mass as well? We need to make it easy and obvious for users to search for their issues before they report them, and then direct users to start in the Testers/Testing section before filing bugs. I have close to a decades worth of bug triaging experience having done such work for Fedora, GNOME and most recently Banshee. I'd be happy to dedicate some time to getting the duplicates under control. In my experience this kind of bug count bump is typical post release and will settle down rather quickly. It should be manageable with just a temporarily increased number of hands on deck. -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Fwd: Daily-PPA in the Beta 1 Release
We will not be experimenting in that PPA until after Luna, so you should be safe. On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 2:21 AM, Benjamin Beelitz b.beel...@gmail.comwrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Benjamin Beelitz b.beel...@gmail.com Date: 2012/11/15 Subject: Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Daily-PPA in the Beta 1 Release To: c...@elementaryos.org Thanks. So it is not a problem. What about builds in the daily ppa that can make the beta not usable anymore? Is it possible? Am 15.11.2012 20:08 schrieb Cody Garver c...@elementaryos.org: We decided it was easier to just keep the current infrastructure at this time. When Luna goes stable a package will be pushed that will transition systems to the Stable PPA, when it's populated. On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Benjamin Beelitz b.beel...@gmail.comwrote: hey guys, i'am running the beta 1. Why is the daily-ppa added? Is it possible to remove it and upgrade in the future althought to the final oder beta 2 release or did i need it for beta 1? Thanks! Best regrads, Benjamin -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Elementary-dev-community] We are drowning in bugs. Web Team, halp!!1
One of the new issues we have experienced since the start of the beta is, in addition to a large number of legitimate bug reports, we are getting a large number of duplicate bug reports. A possible solution to alleviate the flood is to slap up a Testers section on the website. I think it makes sense since we already target a specific audience, Developers, so why not target the larger mass as well? We need to make it easy and obvious for users to search for their issues before they report them, and then direct users to start in the Testers/Testing section before filing bugs. -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Daily-PPA in the Beta 1 Release
We decided it was easier to just keep the current infrastructure at this time. When Luna goes stable a package will be pushed that will transition systems to the Stable PPA, when it's populated. On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Benjamin Beelitz b.beel...@gmail.comwrote: hey guys, i'am running the beta 1. Why is the daily-ppa added? Is it possible to remove it and upgrade in the future althought to the final oder beta 2 release or did i need it for beta 1? Thanks! Best regrads, Benjamin -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Slingshot luna beta 1
Yes it is ready for release aside from testing that categories are properly added and there are no regressions. I have to move its code to the stable branch. Things remaining to do are the beta1 bugs herehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/elementary/+milestone/luna-beta1(predominantly Noise), this small pantheon-greeter bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/pantheon-greeter/+bug/117, and once everything is done, a granite soname bump. That's about it. We would like to get some Needs Fixing https://code.launchpad.net/granite/+activereviewsgranite reviews Approved but that is not considered a blocker. Beta1 is considered frozen and new bugs are targeted to beta2https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementary/+milestone/luna-beta2, which is a great place to find things to do. On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 5:53 AM, Jaap Broekhuizen jaap...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, Looks to me as though all the luna-beta1 bugs are fixed for Slingshot, so who is in charge of pushing out an updated release for it? Also, does someone somewhere have one clear overview of todo items that have to be done before the release of Luna Beta 1? Ofcourse there is the bug and blueprint overview on the elementary launchpad page, but surely there are other things that need to be done too? -- Jaap -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] enable granite to handle command line arguements
This is necessary for Slingshot to be able to be launched silently, thus properly pre-loaded by Cerbere. But it cannot be done without breaking the API. Is the API to be broken? What's everyone's opinions? I would like to get this settled before the Granite soname bump. On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Akshay Shekher voldyman...@gmail.comwrote: codygarver pointed me to https://code.launchpad.net/~krzysztof-lochwinowicz/granite/trunk/+merge/123253 and i think this should be in the trunk as it simplifies command line argument handling. Common command line arguments like debug and version are needed in all the apps and the app devs should not need to write the code to handle them every time, granite should handle this. and if the app needs more parameters then the branch provides a way to add them too. so dev's what are your opinions?? -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Fwd: INK and model based design
Can you guys keep us posted about this? What's the best way to do that? Have the discussion occur on this mailing list? I think this could be an opportunity for additional participants to collaborate. On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org wrote: 2012/11/2 Craig webe...@gmail.com Yeah, I can work with them. Can you send me their contact info or link me to their models? https://launchpad.net/~victored https://launchpad.net/~xapantu I don't have the models, sorry. -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Elementary-dev-community] Pre-Beta Translations Sprint
Since it will likely not be possible/feasible to backport translations, we should get them knocked out soon. Can we go about publicizing a translations sprint on plus/twitter/reddit/etc? Now or closer to the beta or even beta2, whenever. You can see all the translatable projects in the left column herehttps://translations.launchpad.net/elementary. Click a project and View all languages to see what's there and what percentage remains to be translated. Existing translations should be reviewed as well, I'm told the Norwegian in Noise is not perfect. -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Fwd: INK and model based design
Dan just filed a new blueprint that's related to this endeavor herehttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/noise/+spec/music-daemon . On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Craig webe...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I can work with them. Can you send me their contact info or link me to their models? On Nov 1, 2012 4:21 PM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org wrote: Hey Craig, I've talked to Victor, the guy behind Noise, and according to him both music player codebases we have, Noise and BeatBox, could really use a well-thought-out more-object-oriented refactor. He and Lucas (xapantu) have kicked off an initial UML model and they have some extensive specs too, but I'm not sure if they're still relevant. Right now Victor is just patching up Noise for Luna, but they could use any help/input you can provide after the initial Luna release. If the music player experiment works out, I believe the approach can be expanded it to other projects. TIA, -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Custom GTK+ scrollbars
I am still not a fan of overlays (but not enough to uninstall them.. yet). I like gmail's relatively new, fat scrollbars. I have attached a screenshot. On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.orgwrote: Ah yes the current overlay scrollbars are indeed ugly haha. Who you want to contact about the way to do this is probably Andrea Cimitan (*andrea*.* cimitan*@canonical.com) who did Ubuntu's scrollbars. He would probably know the best place to start regarding how to implement such a thing. On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Paul Aspradakis paul.asp...@gmail.comwrote: Hey everyone, I am new here and I would like to bring this to everyones attention. Being a minimalist and a perfectionist on top I can't help but notice how ugly the scrollbars look as opposed to the rest of the elements of the window. Setting the width of the scrollbar aside the main culprit is in my opinion the fixed white background, here http://i.imgur.com/X7qmA.png is a mockup of what an ideal scrollbar could look like. Now someone on #elementary mentioned that if possible at all this would require GTK+ itself to be patched so I thought I'd put this here to get some feedback by developers. If this can be done and everyone agrees I'd be more than happy to work on it myself. P.S: I am a windows developer and have never worked in an open source project like this so forgive me if this is in the wrong place. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, Daniel Foré elementaryos.org -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver attachment: google-mail-scroll.png-- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Elementary-dev-community] Luna Public Beta: The Transition (for code organization junkies)
Sergey and I have started drafting how we are going to move all the code around for this here public beta. Check it out herehttps://docs.google.com/a/elementaryos.org/document/d/1EGiEK3VZ11n6SSJcFobP730mt9yq0VcdqVf9UMvqpes/edit. Comments are very welcome, especially from those whom it directly effects. If you have an @elementaryos.org email account, you already have edit rights. Otherwise, request them. -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Elementary-dev-community] Want more Launchpad spam? Subscribe to bug mail
Within the last month or two everyone stopped receiving nearly as many bug emails from Launchpad as we once did. If you wish to receive more bug notifications, find the Subscribe to bug mail button on each project's bug page. For example, if you wanted OS bug mails you would visit this page: https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+subscribe -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Questions about the use of the bluetooth indicator
Yes, we are using the same indicator as Ubuntu. We are currently attempting to patch outhttps://code.launchpad.net/~elementary-os/elementaryos/os-patch-gnome-bluetooth-precisethe Bluetooth Settings... link because it opens Gnome Control Center, which we are dropping. I don't think we have yet settled on the method for launching a Switchboard plug externally (I think GnomeCC uses $ gnome-control-center bluetooth or some such way). Replacing bluetooth and keyboard indicator is good news to everyone. The only requirement we could hope for from you is that your indicators are written in vala. Your previous launchpad link does not exist. I think who you really want to hear from are the design team. Hopefully a member will reply to this email soon with some feedback. On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Robert Ancell robert.anc...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Am I right in that Elementary uses the same Bluetooth indicator as Ubuntu via wingpanel? For Ubuntu 13.04 I'm working on a new indicator-bluetooth [1] native indicator to replace the GNOME2 panel applet that is currently used. The new indicator will be much the same (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bluetooth) and will probably run gnome-bluetooth applications for accessing bluetooth devices and gnome-control-center for configuration. If Elementary are using this indicator it would be good for it to load switchboard when running in an elementary session. Are there any other requirements I should know of? I will also be looking at a native keyboard indicator that will probably have some similar requirements (haven't investigated it yet). --Robert lp:~robert-ancell/+junk/indicator-bluetooth -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Questions about the use of the bluetooth indicator
Here's the relevant documentationhttp://elementaryos.org/docs/apis/switchboard/plugs/plug-fileand commithttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~elementary-pantheon/switchboard/switchboard/revision/225about launching a plug externally. And here's the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/switchboard/+bug/921644 where we debated it a while if you're interested. I kindly implore/suggest you to stay far far away from autotools. On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 3:01 AM, Robert Ancell robert.anc...@gmail.comwrote: Oh, not sure if I was clear - the new indicator is part of the existing Unity indicator set so is being designed by the Ubuntu design team. I just want to make sure it works well in both desktops. It is in Vala but uses autotools. --Robert On 14 October 2012 20:43, Cody Garver codygar...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, we are using the same indicator as Ubuntu. We are currently attempting to patch out the Bluetooth Settings... link because it opens Gnome Control Center, which we are dropping. I don't think we have yet settled on the method for launching a Switchboard plug externally (I think GnomeCC uses $ gnome-control-center bluetooth or some such way). Replacing bluetooth and keyboard indicator is good news to everyone. The only requirement we could hope for from you is that your indicators are written in vala. Your previous launchpad link does not exist. I think who you really want to hear from are the design team. Hopefully a member will reply to this email soon with some feedback. On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Robert Ancell robert.anc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Am I right in that Elementary uses the same Bluetooth indicator as Ubuntu via wingpanel? For Ubuntu 13.04 I'm working on a new indicator-bluetooth [1] native indicator to replace the GNOME2 panel applet that is currently used. The new indicator will be much the same (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bluetooth) and will probably run gnome-bluetooth applications for accessing bluetooth devices and gnome-control-center for configuration. If Elementary are using this indicator it would be good for it to load switchboard when running in an elementary session. Are there any other requirements I should know of? I will also be looking at a native keyboard indicator that will probably have some similar requirements (haven't investigated it yet). --Robert lp:~robert-ancell/+junk/indicator-bluetooth -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Stable PPA and beta blockers
devfil, I will fix that bug for the stable release in exchange for you fixing https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1001880 the code/packaging resides in https://code.launchpad.net/~elementary-apps/pantheon-plugs/dynamic-gcc-plug On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Devid Antonio Filoni devid...@gmail.comwrote: Hi I would like to ask to take a look at bug #1019814 [1] too while adding packages. Cheers, Devid [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/granite/+bug/1019814 On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Daniel Fore dan...@elementaryos.org wrote: Hey Guys, At this time, our stable PPA is basically empty even though quite a few of our apps have made stable releases recently. Please check the PPA to see if your app is there: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-os/+archive/stable If it's not, promptly bug whoever maintains your package to please put the most recent stable release in that PPA. We obviously can't ship Luna with a daily ppa kicking down updates from trunk. So please make sure you jump on this. This is a release blocker. We cannot release until this is done. If your app has a luna-beta1 milestone that is completely (basically this means everyone except for Noise and Files) you need to make a release. You are holding back our beta release. Don't be a beta blocker! Jump on it. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Power plug is finished!
The old Power will be removed when this reviewhttps://code.launchpad.net/~codygarver/pantheon-plugs/fix-1059228is merged. The new UI is still under construction. If you are on the apps team, please review this mergehttps://code.launchpad.net/~codygarver/pantheon-plugs/coloras well. On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:08 AM, ttosttos Sa ttost...@gmail.com wrote: Some feedback... Upgrade installs new plug and keeps old one. SB is left with two power plugs. UI doesn't like look like in Harvey's mockup, but I guess that's expected. Cheers. --ttosttos On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.orgwrote: If it's not too crazy, I think I'd try to position the items in the scale logarithmically, so like 5 Mins 15 Mins 1 Hr Never On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Chris Triantafillis christriant1...@gmail.com wrote: and where i should put the 1 hour mark? 2012/9/29 Jakob Eriksson ja...@aurorasystems.eu That is logical to you because you KNOW that it it's represented by zer0. On 09/29/2012 08:41:04 PM, elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.netwrote: [1]http://ubuntuone.com/1Dv5NolTPVjqRYDyd6Pfqa HarvKitty says to add a Never label to the right end of the scale... It doesn't make sense to me, Never is represents by zero (0) so i believe it must be at the start of the scale... @Dan what do you think? 2012/9/28 Chris Triantafillis [2]christriant1...@gmail.com So i should re-write the UI? I'll try to add the LevelBar thing also 2012/9/28 Daniel Foré [3]dan...@elementaryos.org Very nice! Definitely like Harvey's mockup. Looks super slick :D The alignment here is just beautiful haha I agree the labels at the bottom could be kind of funny sounding Press the power button to do nothing. haha. Maybe we should go with When the power button is pressed: Ask me, Do nothing, Shutdown? On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 4:39 AM, Chris Triantafillis [4]christriant1...@gmail.com wrote: the labels can be changed! 2012/9/28 Pim Vullers [5]p...@vullersmail.nl I like it as well, only the last entries will read a bit strange when you choose a 'Do nothing' option. Furthermore the top buttons to switch power mode look a bit strange to me... it is not entirely clear how it works. On 09/28/2012 01:26 PM, Chris Triantafillis wrote: I like it! What others have to say? 2012/9/28 Harvey Cabaguio [6]harveycabag...@gmail.com mailto:[7]harveycabag...@gmail.com   Made a mock of the power plug.  [8]http://i.imgur.com/JbbrY.png   On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Cody Garver [9]codygar...@gmail.com   mailto:[10]codygar...@gmail.com wrote:     Hey dkotrada, we still have not made the plugs available for     translation by you guys. It should happen within a week if     things go well.     On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:40 AM, dkotrada [11]dkotr...@gmail.com     mailto:[12]dkotr...@gmail.com wrote:       Launchpad Status from [13]http://identi.ca/launchpadstatus       We are currently experiencing some issues with translations       imports,       and it is currently being looked into       Can't get translations for power plug.       2012/9/26 Chris Triantafillis [14]christriant1...@gmail.com       mailto:[15]christriant1...@gmail.com:       Hm...i don't know...       Lets see what the others have to say...                   2012/9/26 Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff       [16]ser...@elementaryos.org mailto:[17]ser...@elementaryos.org             I have two laptops that have two batteries: a regular one       and an add-on       battery that's purchased separately or with an extension       dock. But they both       power the laptop, and I have to know what's going on with       both. I don't       remember how Ubuntu displays that though, because the       laptops are old and       internal batteries are long dead.             Mice also may have batteries and report their status to       the PC AFAIK, but       I think an indicator is sufficient to display that.                   2012/9/26 Chris Triantafillis [18]christriant1...@gmail.com       mailto:[19]christriant1...@gmail.com         Â
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Luna beta 1 can be here...
The Files bugs are killing us, can you do anything about that Mario? On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Mario Guerriero mefri...@gmail.com wrote: We can move a build of apps in stable ppa and build the beta using it instead of the daily ppa. I think website should switch to the new version for the stable release :P Regards, Mario On lun, ott 1, 2012 at 9:05 , Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.org wrote: Hey Mario, I think we should probably try to at least make sure that we are only operating out of the stable PPA so that users can (theoretically) smoothly upgrade from beta1 to GM. Also I still need to provide some design work for web team haha. But yes I think we're extremely close! There are a few apps that I think just need to make a release and there are a few bugs that I agree we can push to beta2. Best Regards, Daniel Foré El oct 1, 2012, a las 11:53 a.m., Mario Guerriero mefri...@gmail.com escribió: Hi guys, Taking a look at luna-beta1 milestone page ( https://launchpad.net/elementary/+milestone/luna-beta1) I just noticed that there are no blocking bugs opened. What do you think about a beta 1 release? We will have all the time to fix remaining issues for beta2. Remember that it is a beta, I mustn't be completely bug free :) Regards, Mario -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Luna beta 1 can be here...
David 'Munchor' Gomes has expressed interest in stepping up and improving Files, so you would not be too lonely, Mario. On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Cassidy James cass...@elementaryos.orgwrote: Cody, I agree. Files seems like a weak spot and could really use some development help. On Oct 1, 2012 2:10 PM, Mario Guerriero mefri...@gmail.com wrote: We can move a build of apps in stable ppa and build the beta using it instead of the daily ppa. I think website should switch to the new version for the stable release :P Regards, Mario On lun, ott 1, 2012 at 9:05 , Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.org wrote: Hey Mario, I think we should probably try to at least make sure that we are only operating out of the stable PPA so that users can (theoretically) smoothly upgrade from beta1 to GM. Also I still need to provide some design work for web team haha. But yes I think we're extremely close! There are a few apps that I think just need to make a release and there are a few bugs that I agree we can push to beta2. Best Regards, Daniel Foré El oct 1, 2012, a las 11:53 a.m., Mario Guerriero mefri...@gmail.com escribió: Hi guys, Taking a look at luna-beta1 milestone page ( https://launchpad.net/elementary/+milestone/luna-beta1) I just noticed that there are no blocking bugs opened. What do you think about a beta 1 release? We will have all the time to fix remaining issues for beta2. Remember that it is a beta, I mustn't be completely bug free :) Regards, Mario -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Luna beta 1 can be here...
Regarding switching to stable PPAs I would defer to Sergey about that, he just moved the bug about switching PPAshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/840273to luna-beta2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementary/+milestone/luna-beta2. It may come back to haunt us if we advise users that beta will eventually turn into luna final, since there could be some unforeseeable issues that create a bad experience that does not happen in luna final. On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Cody Garver codygar...@gmail.com wrote: David 'Munchor' Gomes has expressed interest in stepping up and improving Files, so you would not be too lonely, Mario. On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Cassidy James cass...@elementaryos.orgwrote: Cody, I agree. Files seems like a weak spot and could really use some development help. On Oct 1, 2012 2:10 PM, Mario Guerriero mefri...@gmail.com wrote: We can move a build of apps in stable ppa and build the beta using it instead of the daily ppa. I think website should switch to the new version for the stable release :P Regards, Mario On lun, ott 1, 2012 at 9:05 , Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.org wrote: Hey Mario, I think we should probably try to at least make sure that we are only operating out of the stable PPA so that users can (theoretically) smoothly upgrade from beta1 to GM. Also I still need to provide some design work for web team haha. But yes I think we're extremely close! There are a few apps that I think just need to make a release and there are a few bugs that I agree we can push to beta2. Best Regards, Daniel Foré El oct 1, 2012, a las 11:53 a.m., Mario Guerriero mefri...@gmail.com escribió: Hi guys, Taking a look at luna-beta1 milestone page ( https://launchpad.net/elementary/+milestone/luna-beta1) I just noticed that there are no blocking bugs opened. What do you think about a beta 1 release? We will have all the time to fix remaining issues for beta2. Remember that it is a beta, I mustn't be completely bug free :) Regards, Mario -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Power plug is finished!
Power plug is now packaged, translatable and right-aligned. So that only leaves the other issues you outlined. On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:50 AM, Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.orgwrote: Yea we should probably have something there as default. As far as the design, GNOME conveniently has a collection of power settings designs here: https://live.gnome.org/Design/SystemSettings/Power I actually think OS X's thing with the tabs and the sliders makes a lot of sense. It's definitely nicer than the current GNOME design. I like the way MeeGo does the headers and stuff, but it definitely doesn't look like how we usually label widgets like sliders. It's definitely worth considering what happens to the settings on a machine where there is no battery. Can we get a screenshot of the plug from someone on a desktop? I think the tabbed design would be really convenient in this way because we can just hide the tabbar and pretend the battery doesn't exist without really altering the design of the settings themselves. I wonder if it's necessary to show the charge levels of various devices seeing as these should show up in the battery indicator. That's something to think about as well. On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Cody Garver codygar...@gmail.com wrote: This plug has moved to lp:~elementary-apps/pantheon-plugs/power-plughttps://code.launchpad.net/~elementary-apps/pantheon-plugs/power-plug. Soon it will probably have its own project that is part of a subproject so we can get translations rolling. Issues remaining: - Left labels should be right-aligned - Packaging (me) - Strings need to be made translatable some string to _(some string) - Harvey may have a better design - Some of the entries are blankhttp://imageshack.us/a/img96/2075/powerdelete.png. Should this be a third, new entry Do Nothing or have another default choice? On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.orgwrote: preferences-system-power -- Cody Garver -- Best Regards, Daniel Foré elementaryos.org -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Power plug is finished!
Hey dkotrada, we still have not made the plugs available for translation by you guys. It should happen within a week if things go well. On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:40 AM, dkotrada dkotr...@gmail.com wrote: Launchpad Status from http://identi.ca/launchpadstatus We are currently experiencing some issues with translations imports, and it is currently being looked into Can't get translations for power plug. 2012/9/26 Chris Triantafillis christriant1...@gmail.com: Hm...i don't know... Lets see what the others have to say... 2012/9/26 Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org I have two laptops that have two batteries: a regular one and an add-on battery that's purchased separately or with an extension dock. But they both power the laptop, and I have to know what's going on with both. I don't remember how Ubuntu displays that though, because the laptops are old and internal batteries are long dead. Mice also may have batteries and report their status to the PC AFAIK, but I think an indicator is sufficient to display that. 2012/9/26 Chris Triantafillis christriant1...@gmail.com What do you mean? Like PC's battery and phone's battery when charging? for example... We can only show PC's battery, can we? 2012/9/26 Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org That's going to be complicated because there might be several batteries in the system. 2012/9/26 Chris Triantafillis christriant1...@gmail.com So whats left? Adding a Do nothing? We could add a battery icon to the right which will change depending on battery state...what do you think? -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Best Regards, Chris Triantafillis -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Best Regards, Chris Triantafillis -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Power plug is finished!
This plug has moved to lp:~elementary-apps/pantheon-plugs/power-plughttps://code.launchpad.net/~elementary-apps/pantheon-plugs/power-plug. Soon it will probably have its own project that is part of a subproject so we can get translations rolling. Issues remaining: - Left labels should be right-aligned - Packaging (me) - Strings need to be made translatable some string to _(some string) - Harvey may have a better design - Some of the entries are blankhttp://imageshack.us/a/img96/2075/powerdelete.png. Should this be a third, new entry Do Nothing or have another default choice? On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.orgwrote: preferences-system-power -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Elementary-dev-community] Luna Update: Remaining Bugs
Since the launchpad link for the project-wide luna-beta1 milestone has been down for a few days, I attempted to recreate it in a Google Doc. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JwPkslcEW9Ocync8f7WTn021GWeVEcHw6ZoFEtJNsdw/edit If I missed anything, let me know. If you can't or don't want to view a Google Doc, I completely understand. Let me know and I will PDF it or something for you. I counted 18 bugs total remaining. -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] [Bug 1050321] Re: Closing Terminal does not warn about open background tasks
Dan: +1 that's pretty much exactly what I use too. On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com wrote: Another note on this, I'm not talking about `status' , but rather about _Importance_ . So the answer You are right, that is whishlist doesn't make any sense to me :/ On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 20:16 +0100, David Gomes wrote: We use Launchpad ones:http://i.imgur.com/I15LH.png On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com wrote: Problem is i still don't know what metric is used to determine it's importance. Or is just, oh i feel I'm in a bad mood and this looks bad, critical ? I think it's important to have rules when evaluating bug reports, only that way we can accurately pay attention to the importance when fixing bugs. On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 19:55 +0100, David Gomes wrote: You are right, that is wishlist :) On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com wrote: Is this really low priority ? What are the metrics on raking bug_report priority? I was just searching for a blueprint after reading getting the notice it was set as low, and found this https://blueprints.launchpad.net/pantheon-terminal/+spec/background-execution which apparently ranks it differently. On Thu, 2012-09-13 at 10:27 +, David Gomes wrote: ** Changed in: pantheon-terminal Milestone: None = 0.2 ** Changed in: pantheon-terminal Status: New = Confirmed ** Changed in: pantheon-terminal Importance: Undecided = Low -- Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com -- Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Design input on bug 1045511
I think it's best to switch to gnome-terminal scheme and wishlist 1045511 until a designer gets time to think of something considering how busy everyone is right now. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:07 AM, David Gomes da...@elementaryos.org wrote: I need some design input on this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pantheon-terminal/+bug/1045511 If our color scheme is not working alright, we need to use Gnome Terminal's color scheme, and if we do need to change the color scheme, I think it should be done in time for Luna, hence I'm asking for your help guys. Thanks, David (Munchor) -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Elementary-dev-community] Switchboard: Beta Ready?
After a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/pantheon-plugs/+bug/1026042 was relocated, Switchboard has no bugs targeted to beta1https://launchpad.net/switchboard/+milestone/luna-beta1 . If you have a moment, please look over the bug listhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/switchboard/+bugs?orderby=statusstart=0and leave any input you have. Or file a new bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/switchboard/+filebug if there's an issue you don't see listed. -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Disapproving branches
I think Disapprove should be for when you don't like the code as a whole or its concept or idea. Or the change entirely. And Needs Fixing should be for when you don't like a particular part of the code but it is actually attempting to fix a bug or make a desired change. What does everyone else think? On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 10:24 AM, David Gomes da...@elementaryos.org wrote: I'm very strict about the Coding Style, and what should I mark a branch that I disapprove of because of its coding style - Disapprove or Needs fixing? We should all be using the same thing, hence the question, thanks! David (Munchor) -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Plank default hide mode missing?
Try pantheon-shell plug, all others with similar functionality are deprecated. -- Cody Garver On Sep 6, 2012, at 11:51 AM, ttosttos Sa ttost...@gmail.com wrote: After a fresh Luna install, I was seeing some unusual hide behavior for Plank. When I installed the plug, I noticed that the hide mode shows blank. Is the default hide mode set incorrectly? Should the switchboard plug be installed by default? Quickly browsed bugs and didn't spot one matching this. Should one be filed? ttosttos -- ps. setting intelligent hide mode on plug seems to yield expected behavior. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Plank default hide mode missing?
Unless plank settings were removed from shell plug.. I'm not at my PC to check. -- Cody Garver On Sep 6, 2012, at 11:51 AM, ttosttos Sa ttost...@gmail.com wrote: After a fresh Luna install, I was seeing some unusual hide behavior for Plank. When I installed the plug, I noticed that the hide mode shows blank. Is the default hide mode set incorrectly? Should the switchboard plug be installed by default? Quickly browsed bugs and didn't spot one matching this. Should one be filed? ttosttos -- ps. setting intelligent hide mode on plug seems to yield expected behavior. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Plank default hide mode missing?
switchboard-plug-pantheon-shell does in fact have the Plank option you're looking for. The old Plank plug has now been removed from distribution. I would remove switchboard-plug-appearance but it also has some additional themeing tweaks that are not desired anywhere else. On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Cody Garver codygar...@gmail.com wrote: Unless plank settings were removed from shell plug.. I'm not at my PC to check. -- Cody Garver On Sep 6, 2012, at 11:51 AM, ttosttos Sa ttost...@gmail.com wrote: After a fresh Luna install, I was seeing some unusual hide behavior for Plank. When I installed the plug, I noticed that the hide mode shows blank. Is the default hide mode set incorrectly? Should the switchboard plug be installed by default? Quickly browsed bugs and didn't spot one matching this. Should one be filed? ttosttos -- ps. setting intelligent hide mode on plug seems to yield expected behavior. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Need love on BUG #1046534 fix already provided
Mario, tom95 approves it and I think it's reviewable at a glance for you. See this image link http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/3071/dardev.png. Do you agree it should be merged right now? On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Mario Guerriero mefri...@gmail.com wrote: Wait a while :) I'll review it as soon as I'll get back home. Mario Guerriero Sent from iPhone 3GS Il giorno 06/set/2012, alle ore 18:54, Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com ha scritto: Ok i have probably been *flooding irc channel asking for some love (since i don't have commit rights) to the scratch bug i reported and later on provided a the diff's for fixes. Since not everyone checks irc that often here is the link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/scratch/+bug/1046534 it's fairly straight forward, i hope it's good enough to get in... cheers -- Darcy Brás da Silva dardeve...@cidadecool.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Luna Update
elementary luna-beta1 bugshttps://launchpad.net/elementary/+milestone/luna-beta15 Sep 2012 *Contractor* has 3 bugshttps://launchpad.net/contractor/+milestone/luna-beta1 *Files* has 6 bugshttps://launchpad.net/pantheon-files/+milestone/luna-beta1 *Granite *has 1 bug https://launchpad.net/granite/+milestone/luna-beta1 *Maya* has 2 bugs https://launchpad.net/maya/+milestone/luna-beta1 *Noise* has 10 bugs https://launchpad.net/noise/+milestone/luna-beta1 *LibPantheon* has 1 bughttps://launchpad.net/libpantheon/+milestone/luna-beta1 *Pantheon Greeter* has 1 bughttps://launchpad.net/pantheon-greeter/+milestone/luna-beta1 *Switchboard* has 1 bughttps://launchpad.net/switchboard/+milestone/luna-beta1 *elementary OS* has 6 bugshttps://launchpad.net/elementaryos/+milestone/luna-beta1 On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 4:38 AM, David Gomes da...@elementaryos.org wrote: Great Daniel, closer and closer every day! I'm sure the beta milestone will be a success. On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.orgwrote: Hey everyone, Another Luna update! We're SOOO close. As always, the list is here: https://launchpad.net/elementary/+milestone/luna-beta1 Firstly, I'd like to thank everyone for their hard work and send out a gentle reminder not to reach too far. We're working towards a *beta* milestone. Everything that is essential should be targeted already. Don't let anyone pressure you into targeted new features. Let's get the big blocking bugs knocked out so we can move to the next stage. We've already planned to do a Beta2 milestone and remember that we can always push out new features mid-Luna+1-cycle as well. - *Contractor* has 4 bugs - *Files* has 5 bugs - *Gala* has 2 bugs - *Granite *has 6 bugs - *Maya* has 3 bugs - *Noise* has 12 bugs - *LibPantheon* has 1 bug - *Pantheon Greeter* has 6 bugs - *Slingshot* has 8 bugs - *Switchboard* has 4 bugs - *Wingpanel *has 1 bug If your project is not listed here, that means you have 0 bugs targeted to the Luna Beta1 milestone! I'm sure developers from the above projects would really appreciate it if you would take time to help them achieve their goals for Luna Beta1. Thanks again everyone! Best Regards, Daniel Foré elementaryos.org -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] I'll BBIAB
NYC is just as good as Disney World. If anyone in your party smokes cigarettes, advise them to bring their own. They are very very expensive there. Will you still be uploading daily ISO builds? Or able to further collaborate with nerdshark to finish automating them? Are you only available for consultation or will you still contribute to branches? Small issue for you to tackle: replace switchboard-plug-wallpaper with switchboard-plug-pantheon-shell On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org wrote: Hello everyone, I'm writing to announce that I won't be as active in elementary development as I used to be for the upcoming month or two. My university wants me really badly and there's a bunch of other stuff that has piled up and can't be deferred anymore. My absence shouldn't be much of a problem because elementary already has more proficient people than me for almost any area. Still, feel free to email me about relatively small items if you think I'm the best guy to tackle them. On an unrelated note, I'll be visiting New York City from 10th to 15th of October (if all goes as planned, at least). If you live nearby and wish to meet me in person, that can be arranged. Cheers, Good Luck, Happy Hunting Hacking, and Have Fun, -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Widget Discussion: TransientContentBar
You've got some time to draft it, I don't think a satisfactory version of clutter (2.0?) will be out until 13.04. Talk to tom95 or ricotz for more details. But it would at least make me feel better if Audience's control bar were a granite widget of some form. -- Cody Garver On Sep 3, 2012, at 10:59 PM, Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.org wrote: Yea I think some kind of overlay widget could probably be helpful for media apps. We should probably make a list of apps that already have something similar and try to find a common ground. Also, for every time you link to Google+, I'm going to reach through the Internet and slap you. Because its extremely painful to redirect through and it's extremely mobile unfriendly. Best Regards, Daniel Foré El sep 3, 2012, a las 6:54 p.m., Cassidy James cass...@elementaryos.org escribió: I've been looking at some UI paradigms lately, and one I see used frequently is some sort of transient bar used when viewing visually-rich content. Take out your mobile platform of choice. View a video. See that bar that has some controls on it? That's what I'm talking about. We already have a similar UI element being used in Audience. I was wondering if it would make sense to reuse this widget in other apps. Harvey made a mockup of a slick little image viewer that used a similar UI element: http://goo.gl/IGAxf. Even if it's not proposed for Granite, I think making this a prepackaged widget could be really useful; we could predetermine some of the look and behavior (exact transparency, timing and animation for the slide-out/in, showing for a few seconds then sliding away, etc.). What are your thoughts? Regards, Cassidy James -- Sent from *elementary OS* http://elementaryos.org/. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Elementary-dev-community] pantheon-terminal --version
Should $ pantheon-terminal --version identify itself as Pantheon Terminal or Terminal? Should the team be displayed as Pantheon Terminal Developers or Terminal Developers? The code would look something like this: stdout.printf(Pantheon Terminal%s\n, Build.VERSION); stdout.printf(Copyright 2011-2012 Pantheon Terminal Developers.\n); -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] pantheon-terminal --version
Oh ok, voldy and I were talking about it earlier. Nevermind, thanks. On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 8:10 AM, David Gomes da...@elementaryos.org wrote: Cody, I had already emailed Daniel about this, this is a minor issue, I don't think we had to post it in the mailing list. Oh, he said Pantheon Terminal Developers. ;) On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Cody Garver c...@elementaryos.org wrote: Should $ pantheon-terminal --version identify itself as Pantheon Terminal or Terminal? Should the team be displayed as Pantheon Terminal Developers or Terminal Developers? The code would look something like this: stdout.printf(Pantheon Terminal%s\n, Build.VERSION); stdout.printf(Copyright 2011-2012 Pantheon Terminal Developers.\n); -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Messaging Menu
I meant make a votebin then share it across Facebook and Twitter.. On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.orgwrote: Well unfortunately we don't have 3,000+ people watching votebin and automatically sharing the poll when they vote. Best Regards, Daniel Foré El ago 29, 2012, a las 3:48 p.m., Cody Garver codygar...@gmail.com escribió: I only use it because I'm bad at Empathy. Please use a more neutral poll system like VoteBin http://votebin.appspot.com/ in the future. On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.orgwrote: I think my biggest point against the messaging menu is that I feel it doesn't really give me useful information if I want to ignore a notification. For example, maybe I don't care what's in my email right now. That little envelope is going to stay lit up and maybe I'll miss something from Empathy because I'm just ignoring the blue envelope. But with the badges in the dock, now I have everything separated out to where I can see exactly which apps wanted my attention and I can ignore the ones I'm not terribly concerned about at the time. On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Pim Vullers p...@vullersmail.nl wrote: I guess dropping it for beta is a good idea. If there is a small set of users only that require it, they can still install it when it is not present on a fresh install. Sam Tate s...@mtate.me.uk wrote: Well since Plank no longer has app open indicators, we are trying to remove the distinction between open and closed apps (like on mobile platforms) because it simply isn't relevant any more. This means that users will have a combination of open and closed apps stored in their dock, and the ones they are getting messages from (Empathy, Geary) will also be in the messaging menu. It's just redundant to have two visual reminders (Red Badge in Plank and Blue Icon in Wingpanel) so it should just be removed. I think eventually the plan is to have a system wide notification area like Android, iOS or OSX, and this is just one step towards that. I'm all for removing it - at least for beta1 to see if anyone actually misses it. On 29 August 2012 21:10, Conscious User consciousu...@gmail.com wrote: As an early supporter and still frequent user of the Messaging Menu, I want to reply to some of the points raised here. It is particular to take the following into consideration: 1) Whether you intend to support the concept of hiding windows. Shnatsel said it's a poor copy of the dock, but I personally differentiate between foreground applications that are part of my current workflow (be it programming, fooling around or preparing lectures) with background applications that run indepedently of which workflow I'm currently on. I like to include the former on the dock, but not the latter. Background apps in the dock clutter it, making task switching harder and slower. Also, badges in the middle of large colored icons are much less efficient in attracting my attention. Specially because dock icons are moving targets. All apps in my Messaging Menu use hide-on-close. I personally think the MM works very well with those. Unfortunately not all of them (ex: Thunderbird) do that by default and I need to either hack them or use extensions to allow them to do that. Which brings to my next point: 2) The difference between a concept inherent to the Messaging Menu and a specific application doing it wrong. I think the reputation of the MM was somewhat tarnished by applications that didn't use it properly (including Canonical-supported ones). Granted, libindicate is somewhat to blame for allowing those to happen in the first place, but sometimes it's worthy imagining what an application could do with the MM, instead of what it currently does. Satchitb mentioned that emails are less urgent than IMs. This is probably true in the general case, but when you use the TB integration for a long time, you notice that it's not as dumb as it seems at a first glance: it does not lit the envelop if the email was sent to a mailing list of you were just CCed. And does not change the MM at all if the message did not arrive in the main inbox. So this property plus a good combination of filters restrict the MM to alerting me when I received a direct, personal email. And I can't be the only one who once had a boss who used emails for instant communication simply because he never bothered to learn something else, for example. Also worth mentioning is that several app developers do not bother to implement little details that make MM integration much more usable, such as unliting the envelope when the proper window/tab is focused like Empathy does. Cheers, -c Em 29-08-2012 13:41, Daniel Foré escreveu: Hey guys, Just a quick question: does anyone use the messaging menu? If so, what for? If not, should we consider not shipping it? Best Regards, Daniel Foré -- Mailing list
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Slingshot is nearly beta-ready
An issue I notice is that I still have to $ sudo killall -KILL slingshot instead of slingshot-launcher. I altered the exec namehttps://code.launchpad.net/~codygarver/slingshot/update-exec-nameto conform but now I get two processes, slingshot-launcher and slingshot-launc. Previously it was slingshot and slingshot-launcher. So exec name has a character limit? Is there anything that can be done about this or should it remain as it was, at least for now? On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Andrea Basso voluntatefa...@gmail.comwrote: Hi everyone, as you can see here Slingshot has only two open bugs targeted for luna-beta1. I suspect that one of these, 1022210, has already been accidentally fixed by Tom's change in popovers' behavior, since this was linked with Slingshot focus. If anyone running at least revision 249 (which means that if you have latest Slingshot from PPA you have it) has experienced this bug, please write it in the bug report or as an answer to this mail. I've tried to fix the other, 1013836, but with no results. I've actually found a way, but it's quite hackish, so I'd be very glad if someone could try to take a look at it and find a better solution. If, in a week or so, no one will have fixed it, I'll apply the hackish solution. During this week, I encourage everyone to report any beta-stopper bugs you may have found. If none will be filed (or once they'll be fixed), no one reports to have reproduced the first bug and the second is fixed, Slingshot will be released. Thank you for the collaboration, Regards, Andrea Basso -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~**elementary-dev-communityhttps://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@**lists.launchpad.netelementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~**elementary-dev-communityhttps://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelphttps://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Slingshot is nearly beta-ready
I forgot to say great work! I finally updated yesterday and everything works so well! Thanks for picking up a once evil project and, one way or another, coaxing it to behave! It's so critical to the overall experience that is Pantheon, but we all know that already. On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Cody Garver codygar...@gmail.com wrote: An issue I notice is that I still have to $ sudo killall -KILL slingshot instead of slingshot-launcher. I altered the exec namehttps://code.launchpad.net/~codygarver/slingshot/update-exec-nameto conform but now I get two processes, slingshot-launcher and slingshot-launc. Previously it was slingshot and slingshot-launcher. So exec name has a character limit? Is there anything that can be done about this or should it remain as it was, at least for now? On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Andrea Basso voluntatefa...@gmail.comwrote: Hi everyone, as you can see here Slingshot has only two open bugs targeted for luna-beta1. I suspect that one of these, 1022210, has already been accidentally fixed by Tom's change in popovers' behavior, since this was linked with Slingshot focus. If anyone running at least revision 249 (which means that if you have latest Slingshot from PPA you have it) has experienced this bug, please write it in the bug report or as an answer to this mail. I've tried to fix the other, 1013836, but with no results. I've actually found a way, but it's quite hackish, so I'd be very glad if someone could try to take a look at it and find a better solution. If, in a week or so, no one will have fixed it, I'll apply the hackish solution. During this week, I encourage everyone to report any beta-stopper bugs you may have found. If none will be filed (or once they'll be fixed), no one reports to have reproduced the first bug and the second is fixed, Slingshot will be released. Thank you for the collaboration, Regards, Andrea Basso -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~**elementary-dev-communityhttps://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@**lists.launchpad.netelementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~**elementary-dev-communityhttps://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelphttps://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] [Translation] A question about a few Audience strings.
It actually does mean disc because the wording is meant to describe playing a commercial film DVD or a video file from a disc such as a DVD or CD. A disc that is NOT meant for traditional hardware DVD players. That aside, file a bug against the poor wording. The current English is too long and confusing. On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 4:00 AM, Jakob Eriksson ja...@aurorasystems.euwrote: On August 20, 2012 at 10:50 AM Alfredo Hernández aldomann.desi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, Since the context doesn't provide enough information, I have a little question about the meaning of two Audience strings: (No. 6 and 7): - 6: *Play from Disc* - 7: *Watch a DVD or open a file from disc* In both cases I'm not sure if disc refers to a round disc (i.e. CD, DVD, etc.) or if it refers to a harddrive disc (in wich is *disk* in british); the meaning is primordial in order to make a good translation of the program. Wikipedia: Generally in computer terminology, disk refers to magnetic storage while disc refers to optical storage. which is also consistent with what I have seen. So point 7 should probably be updated to: Watch a DVD or open a file from disk -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Long long vacations
Any work on pantheon-files luna-beta1https://launchpad.net/pantheon-files/+milestone/luna-beta1would be appreciated. Especially the small handful of set-as-default infobar bugshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/pantheon-files/+bugs?field.tag=set-as-default . Do you need more bugs? Would you rather have bugs from other project(s) instead of Files? On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 6:37 AM, Mario Guerriero mefri...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I was on vacation from the last Monday and I'll get back home Sunday. After that I'll fly to London for 3 weeks so I won't be available for elementary developing for a long time. I want to ask you if there are any issues I can fix in my 2 days at home regarding mainly Scratch and other projects which will be in Luna such as Files or Terminal. Indeed I won't be there for Luna beta release or stable one. :( See you soon :) Best regards, Mario Mario Guerriero Sent from iPhone 3GS -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Luna Check Up
Aside from merging a branch that's been in-progress forever, Tom made 8 Gala commits today. Now there are only THREE bugs attached to Gala luna-beta1https://launchpad.net/gala/+milestone/luna-beta1 ! There are around 40 New or Confirmed bugs left that are not attached to a milestone. If you are a tester and would like to help out, please investigate the remaining bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/gala/+bugs?orderby=statusstart=0 and mark yourself as affected and/or leave a comment on bugs you have experience with or an opinion about. On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Christian Dywan christ...@twotoasts.dewrote: On 09.07.2012 21:58, Daniel Foré wrote: Christian, can we target any relevant bug reports to the milestone? I've sorted out the missing tasks so we have 3 bugs targeted for the beta and I moved the notes from the Google doc into the bugs. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Luna Check Up
Cerbere update: Porting to granite should not be considered. Only updating slingshot binary name should happen. On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Cody Garver codygar...@gmail.com wrote: Cerbere - Two remaining interests I have are renaming slingshot to slingshot-launcher https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+bug/993044 and porting cerbere to granitehttps://code.launchpad.net/~victored/cerbere/granite-port . Contractor - Needs love. Pantheon Files - Need info from xapantu since he is working upstream on Marlin. What are they working on? Does it impact us positively or negatively? And how long will it take? Gala - You know. Granite - Popovers are annoyinghttps://bugs.launchpad.net/granite/+bug/1011185. beta1 or future? Noise - Development has moved upstream to beatbox. Once its stable release is made, Noise will get the treatment it needs. libpantheon - What does mefrio think? Greeter - Papa was a rolling stone. Terminal - Looking good. Maybe munchor will have a free weekend soon and run through it. Scratch - Looking good. Mefrio shows us who's the original multitasking man around here. Slingshot - voluntatefaber just got back from vacation today. Expect great things. Switchboard - aroman, holla back. Wingpanel - Looking good. Maybe agent00tai or someone else can bring it home. On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Cassidy James c...@ssidyjam.es wrote: Amen! :) Also, let's definitely make sure that once those are released, we help out where it's needed rather than working on additional bits of those. If we really crack down and focus our development, we can get a beta release pushed out of here pretty quickly. Then we wait for the wider testing and onslaught of bug reports that'll come from that. ;) On Jul 8, 2012 6:40 PM, Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.org wrote: Hey Guys, Just thought I'd give a quick rundown of the beta-1 milestone: https://launchpad.net/elementary/+milestone/luna-beta1 Cerbere - Looks like we have all the beta-1 bugs fixed! Did we forget to target any other bugs or can we make a release? Contractor - we have 3 bugs to fix here. One crasher, one translation-related, and one we could probably solve by splitting contracts into separate packages (not shipping them with Contractor itself). Files - only 2 bugs here. One seems pretty bite size, just adding/chaning a CSS class. Another seems more difficult and something we might want to retarget to another milestone. Gala - lots of bugs here. We could use all the help we can get. Granite - only 1 bug and it has a linked branch. Can we get a review on this branch? Also, can we then make a Granite release or did we have some other bugs to target? Noise - soo many bugs. This one needs help as well. Libpantheon - two bugs here, one with a patch and another with a branch. Can we get these reviewed and figure out where we're at? Greeter - 6 reports here. Terminal - 6 bugs. A few of them look pretty bite size. Scratch - 3 bugs. Two of them need design input. I'll try to get that figured out. The last one is a sensitivity thing and I'm thinking it's probably not a super difficult fix. Slingshot - 6 bugs. a few of them just popped up so we might be able to track the regression pretty easily. Switchboard - 7 bugs. couple of these we could probably move to a later milestone since they're more wish list. Some of the other ones are pretty legit. Definitely need to get this sorted. Wingpanel - 2 bugs. one shortcut thing and one multi-monitor problem. So as you can see we have a few projects that are very close to release: Cerbere, Granite, Contractor, Files, Scratch, Wingpanel. Let's knock these out really quick and get 'em out of our faces so we can concentrate on cleaning up the ones that really need help! Best Regards, Daniel Foré elementaryos.org -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] (no subject)
Shnatsel ++ On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:33 AM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org wrote: Didn't we decide that we're probably underestimating the complexity of the task later on the mailing list? -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] About Dialog
I don't think Abouts should exist. But aside from that, I think Cassidy is right when he says The dockitem *is* the app. On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Cassidy James c...@ssidyjam.es wrote: Andrea, The dockitem is the app, as far as I'm concerned. If the user wants to know more about that app, they can right-click the app and click about. I think it's a great place to put this relatively universal item since it doesn't have anything to do with the screen the user is looking at, but with the app itself. Regards, Cassidy James On May 29, 2012 3:39 PM, Andrea Basso voluntatefa...@gmail.com wrote: @Dan, it makes sense to separate the two for two reason: 1. If I wanna start Files with root privileges or Midori in a private session is quite handy to have them in the quicklist, it's acutally what it's there for. It's a lot of useless user interaction to start the program and launch another session from the menu (like Midori does now) and having two .desktop files is completely wrong, the application is only one and if I dock one I wanna be able to access quickly even other way to launch it, it's stupid having to dock two (or more) items for the same app. 2. Dock is for launching apps, and that's it. If I right click on what I clicked to launch it I expect different ways to launch it, revert the launch (close it) or in general deal with app session, not the app itself. Plus, imagine a new user who wanna see the about dialog. You really think that going to a hidden place which reveals itself only when the mouse goes to the bottom of the screen and has nothing to do with interacting with the app and right-clicking on the app icon would make sense to find the about dialog? Discoverability (and sense) is next to zero. So I don't really see how About fits in the quicklist. On Tue, 29 May 2012 19:48:04 +0200, Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.org wrote: @Mario, This is true that would mean that About dialog can't be shown in all DE's. But, I think as we move forward we're going to have to do things that will start to break other DE's in order to really get our apps the best they can be. However, adding actions to a .desktop in this way is being proposed upstream to FD.o so this may be the way that GNOME handles it's AppMenus and Unity handles it's quicklists in the future. So I don't think we should worry too much about breaking other DE's. @Satchit, I also agree that having window controls in the quicklist menu seems silly. I don't know of anyone who uses them for this and I would advocate removing that from all of our apps. @Andrea, the quicklist *is* our external menu. I don't think it'd make sense to add yet-another-menuing-system. On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Mario Guerriero mefri...@gmail.com wrote: In this way the about dialog can't be showed in all DEs. I think however that this is a problem for Luna+1 because we can surely found a better solution for it. Mario Guerriero Sent from iPhone 3GS Il giorno 29/mag/2012, alle ore 18:56, Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.org ha scritto: Hey Guys, When we first did the AppMenu, I think we felt that having only a single menu for an app was being extremely optimistic about it's design. But it seems that even so, some of the apps that have been built for elementary (Switchboard, Eidete, etc) are so contextual and awesome that they don't need an AppMenu at all except for a single item: About. What I'd like to propose is moving About into a quicklist item. I think this would make sense because it's About the App not just the current Window, and it would give us a consistent place to put this item (that I'm pretty sure we all want for all of our apps) without requiring yet-another-otherwise-useless-**piece-of-UI. Thoughts? Best Regards, Daniel Foré elementaryos.org -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~**elementary-dev-communityhttps://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@**lists.launchpad.netelementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~**elementary-dev-communityhttps://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelphttps://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~**elementary-dev-communityhttps://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@**lists.launchpad.netelementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~**elementary-dev-communityhttps://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelphttps://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver
