Re: [elm-discuss] What is the motivation for using google groups?

2016-11-28 Thread joseph ni
I used to follow MeteorJS and one of the main reasons for their switch from google groups to discourse was the spam google groups attracted once they got to some level of popularity. So it might be out of necessity that we move... eventually. On Monday, 28 November 2016 19:31:07 UTC+11, Håkon R

Re: [elm-discuss] What is the motivation for using google groups?

2016-11-28 Thread Håkon Rossebø
I really like the Discourse forum and think it works very good on https://elixirforum.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Elm Discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to elm-discuss+unsubscr...

Re: [elm-discuss] What is the motivation for using google groups?

2016-11-27 Thread W. Brian Gourlie
I agree for all the same reasons, and I'll add that threaded discussions go off-topic quickly and can be hard to follow. Someone asked about migration from google-groups to discourse; Some cursory searching shows that it's possible, however, google groups doesn't have an export mechanism so i

Re: [elm-discuss] What is the motivation for using google groups?

2016-11-26 Thread Bernardo
I like Google Groups, it's simple and it works fine. I also like Discourse. It may be a good alternative if you are looking for a more complete forum that is modern. I don't like Reddit, it doesn't feel like a forum nor a mailing list, and it has advertisement. On Friday, 25 November 2016 23:34

Re: [elm-discuss] What is the motivation for using google groups?

2016-11-26 Thread Joey Eremondi
I'm a bit reluctant of using Reddit for this: 1. It's hard to keep things sorted by topic. One of the main reasons for moving away from groups is that we could separate feature requests from newbie help from advanced help from library announcements. You can't do that on reddit. 2. It's susceptibl

Re: [elm-discuss] What is the motivation for using google groups?

2016-11-26 Thread OvermindDL1
Another +1 for reddit here, I don't use the mailing list aspects of things but for one who does reddit would be a -1, but there are so many aggregators for reddit that I've no doubt a mailing list thing is made by someone or a hundred. On Saturday, November 26, 2016 at 12:09:40 AM UTC-7, Robin

Re: [elm-discuss] What is the motivation for using google groups?

2016-11-25 Thread Robin Heggelund Hansen
Fine by me. I check Reddit as often as I check this mailing list :) lørdag 26. november 2016 03.34.07 UTC+1 skrev Richard Feldman følgende: > > We've talked in the past about moving to https://reddit.com/r/elm - in > part for threaded discussions and voting, but also more to have things more > c

Re: [elm-discuss] What is the motivation for using google groups?

2016-11-25 Thread Brian Hicks
I'm on board for Reddit, tentatively. I know /r/learnelm has been proposed in other fora. I'm not convinced that Reddit has its users best interests at heart, however, so I'm kind of touching it from a distance. That said, I don't think it can replace a mailing list in general. There's just som

Re: [elm-discuss] What is the motivation for using google groups?

2016-11-25 Thread Duane Johnson
On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Richard Feldman < richard.t.feld...@gmail.com> wrote: > We've talked in the past about moving to https://reddit.com/r/elm - in > part for threaded discussions and voting, but also more to have things more > centralized. > I like reddit and use it frequently. Unfor

Re: [elm-discuss] What is the motivation for using google groups?

2016-11-25 Thread Hassan Schroeder
On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 5:36 PM, OvermindDL1 wrote: > I'm curious what those are? Discourse follows the spec for mailing list > messages. > What else is there? IA/UX - the signal-to-noise ratio is horrible. To go into more detail would take examples and screenshots which I don't have time for r

Re: [elm-discuss] What is the motivation for using google groups?

2016-11-25 Thread Richard Feldman
We've talked in the past about moving to https://reddit.com/r/elm - in part for threaded discussions and voting, but also more to have things more centralized. After all, /r/elm is still going to exist whether there's additionally a Google Group, a Discourse forum, etc. It'd be nice to have only

Re: [elm-discuss] What is the motivation for using google groups?

2016-11-25 Thread OvermindDL1
I'm curious what those are? Discourse follows the spec for mailing list messages. For the broken email clients like the usual apple one that one's issues are resolved by adding "Re: " to the subject line on the mailing template (which elixir forums did just recently since finally found out how

Re: [elm-discuss] What is the motivation for using google groups?

2016-11-25 Thread Hassan Schroeder
On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 4:17 PM, OvermindDL1 wrote: > The Elixir forum (which has an Elm section if anyone wants to give it a try) > has resolved its mailing list oddities fairly well now and can be used 'as' > a mailing list in addition to a forum, so it satisfies both sides quite well > now. Al

Re: [elm-discuss] What is the motivation for using google groups?

2016-11-25 Thread Joey Eremondi
What's the story on importing old Google groups messages? Do we lose years of searchable history? On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 4:17 PM, OvermindDL1 wrote: > The Elixir forum (which has an Elm section if anyone wants to give it a > try) has resolved its mailing list oddities fairly well now and can be

Re: [elm-discuss] What is the motivation for using google groups?

2016-11-25 Thread OvermindDL1
The Elixir forum (which has an Elm section if anyone wants to give it a try) has resolved its mailing list oddities fairly well now and can be used 'as' a mailing list in addition to a forum, so it satisfies both sides quite well now. An Elm Forum could do the same. On Friday, November 25, 20

Re: [elm-discuss] What is the motivation for using google groups?

2016-11-25 Thread Juan Soto
In Elixir, we moved to a Discourse forum. Works pretty well though I assume there was some kickback by people who like mailing lists but in general people are happy. On Friday, November 25, 2016 at 3:45:33 PM UTC-5, W. Brian Gourlie wrote: > > Ok, so there 's clearly a desire for something bette

Re: [elm-discuss] What is the motivation for using google groups?

2016-11-25 Thread W. Brian Gourlie
Ok, so there 's clearly a desire for something better, but some folks prefer google groups as a mailing list. Elm makes a deliberate appeal to ease-of-use and simplicity, which is at odds with using google groups as a community forum. Past discussions aside, I think it's worth revisiting. O

Re: [elm-discuss] What is the motivation for using google groups?

2016-11-25 Thread Janis Voigtländer
Suggestion: Use the google group's search facility to check whether the thing you propose has been discussed before. :-) Hint: It's the case, and I think that even the "discourse" suggestion was made and discussed then. > Am 25.11.2016 um 20:04 schrieb W. Brian Gourlie : > > I find google gro

[elm-discuss] What is the motivation for using google groups?

2016-11-25 Thread W. Brian Gourlie
I find google groups to be a poor experience on many different levels, and I'm wondering if there is any motivation for using it other than "it's free and easy." If there is any interest in an alternative, I would be willing to set up a discourse instance, if only temporarily, to see if people