keyboard-coding-system in Carbon Emacs

2005-04-05 Thread YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
I think the default value of keyboard-coding-system in Carbon Emacs has been source of annoyance. Users have to set an appropriate value to input non-ASCII characters using external input methods or combinations with the option key. The patch below is an attempt to solve such a problem by dynamic

Re: `xterm-mouse-mode' has a bogus Custom group

2005-04-05 Thread Nick Roberts
> ! This works in terminal emulators compatible with xterm. Only > ! non-modified single clicks are supported. When turned on, the > ! normal xterm mouse functionality for such clicks is still available > ! by holding down the SHIFT key while pressing the mouse button." Its a bit more quirky

Re: emacs -Q not documented

2005-04-05 Thread Richard Stallman
It is intended to be an option turn off all "extra features". On what criterion are these features "extra"? But most important, running emacs -Q when debugging redisplay problems makes it much easier to know what's going on. Why does the blinking cursor relate to this? Just beca

Re: `xterm-mouse-mode' has a bogus Custom group

2005-04-05 Thread Richard Stallman
> The GNU/Linux console currently does not appear to support > `xterm-mouse-mode'. I think this should just say Linux console although I don't really understand where the kernel ends and the operating system begins. Neither "Linux console" nor "GNU/Linux console" is incorrect

Re: gcov support in compile.el

2005-04-05 Thread Richard Stallman
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Re: bad version number in Finder [MacOS9]

2005-04-05 Thread YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
> On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 16:32:41 +0200, Sébastien Kirche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > said: > Hi, while building Emacs for OS9 (non-Carbon), I noticed that the > version number displayed in the info window of the Finder was not up > to date. I've just changed version strings and other related fie

[patch] enhanced mac drag-n-drop

2005-04-05 Thread Sean O'Rourke
The included patch to src/macterm.c extends Carbon Emacs' drag-n-drop to handle directories, URLs, and text. To use it, the included Lisp code also needs to be added to the appropriate Lisp file, probably lisp/term/mac-win.el. This is my first foray into Emacs C-hackery, so although it's been wor

Re: `xterm-mouse-mode' has a bogus Custom group

2005-04-05 Thread David Kastrup
Luc Teirlinck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Nick Roberts wrote: > >> The GNU/Linux console currently does not appear to support >> `xterm-mouse-mode'. > >I think this should just say Linux console although I don't >really understand where the kernel ends and the operating system

Re: `xterm-mouse-mode' has a bogus Custom group

2005-04-05 Thread Luc Teirlinck
Nick Roberts wrote: >The GNU/Linux console currently does not appear to support >`xterm-mouse-mode'. I think this should just say Linux console although I don't really understand where the kernel ends and the operating system begins. Neither do I, but Richard asked me to refe

[Zajcev Evgeny] Re: Xlib 2.1 and XWEM 2.1 released

2005-04-05 Thread Kim F. Storm
I asked Zajcev Evgeny what limitations prevents running XWEM under GNU Emacs. Perhaps something to work on after the release... Zajcev Evgeny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I did not looked too close to GNU Emacs, but at a time when i was trying to port xwem to GNU Emacs i was faced to those probl

Re: Emacs on Mac OS X

2005-04-05 Thread David Kastrup
Cian Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, I'm currently running Mac OS X 10.4 which is currently > unreleased commercial software, so having agreed to an NDA I really > have no right to ask for your help. The problem is rather that you have no right to _offer_ your help. What goes into Emacs,

Emacs on Mac OS X

2005-04-05 Thread Cian Hughes
Hi, I'm currently running Mac OS X 10.4 which is currently unreleased commercial software, so having agreed to an NDA I really have no right to ask for your help. However I have discovered a very serious issue with emacs on Mac OS X 10.4 (tiger) and due to a change in carbon, emacs (latest CVS vers

Re: Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior

2005-04-05 Thread Lennart Borgman
- Original Message - From: "Richard Stallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Meanwhile, we could afford to maintain this for one set of widgets, > such as GTK. But if the idea were to use the native widget set of > every system, you're talking about a tremendous amount of work. What about wxwidg

Re: Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior

2005-04-05 Thread Richard Stallman
From a UI and an OS X perspective, customization buffers should definitely go into proper dialogues with native widgets. Most cases, perhaps nearly all, would be easily handled with those native widgets. But it might be hard to make this support everything that Emacs customizations actu

Re: Splitting and moving generic.el.

2005-04-05 Thread Lute Kamstra
Lute Kamstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > generic.el currently contains two facilities: > > 1. Defining major modes by means of define-generic-mode. > > 2. The definition of default-generic-mode and some setup code to use >it automatically for some files. > > I think 2. is a strange side-effe

Re: Aquamacs distro for OS X like behavior

2005-04-05 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I don't know if an out-of-the-box configuration for the default Emacs is > needed - the idea of a distribution like what we demonstrate with Aquamacs > might already do the job. People with other needs - a cross-platform > compatible Emacs - will then be happy to use the 'conservative' > version

Re: gcov support in compile.el

2005-04-05 Thread Stefan Monnier
> +(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.gcov$" . compilation-mode)) ^^^ \\' -- Stefan ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listi

Re: emacs -Q not documented

2005-04-05 Thread Kim F. Storm
David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > --stripped-down --naked :-) -- Kim F. Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.cua.dk ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

Re: emacs -Q not documented

2005-04-05 Thread David Kastrup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) writes: > David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> --stripped-down > > --naked :-) Too close to --flashing. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum ___ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org htt

Re: emacs -Q not documented

2005-04-05 Thread David Kastrup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) writes: > David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> --basic-defaults >> >> would be another possibility. > > Still, "defaults" is non-informative in this context. > > IMO --minimal would be good, but is too close to --minimize. > > Some synonymes are: > > --ba

Re: emacs -Q not documented

2005-04-05 Thread Kim F. Storm
David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > --basic-defaults > > would be another possibility. Still, "defaults" is non-informative in this context. IMO --minimal would be good, but is too close to --minimize. Some synonymes are: --basic --slim --mean --reduced --nominal -- Kim F. Storm <[EM

Re: Changes in calendar/time-date.el

2005-04-05 Thread Lute Kamstra
Reiner Steib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > I have committed the changes to Gnus v5-10 branch. If anyone want to > handle the compiler differently, feel free to change it. I'd prefer to handle it like in the patch below. If the function message-make-date or nnimap-date-days-ago is called

Re: emacs -Q not documented

2005-04-05 Thread David Kastrup
"Robert J. Chassell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> -Q > >It is intended to be an option turn off all "extra features". > > Yes. The option is helpful and should be kept. > > It is easier than evoking Emacs with an equivalent long string of > options, which are: > > emacs -q

Re: emacs -Q not documented

2005-04-05 Thread Robert J. Chassell
> -Q It is intended to be an option turn off all "extra features". Yes. The option is helpful and should be kept. It is easier than evoking Emacs with an equivalent long string of options, which are: emacs -q \ --no-site-file \ --no-blinking-cursor \ --

Re: emacs -Q not documented

2005-04-05 Thread Kim F. Storm
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Apr 5, 2005 7:27 PM, Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>emacs -Q -N >> >> where -Q means "no init files or site-init files" >> and -N means turn off all frame features > > I should add that doing so is more flexible for debugging too -- for >

gcov support in compile.el

2005-04-05 Thread Masatake YAMATO
I have written a regexp to handle a gcov output in compile.el. 2005-04-05 Masatake YAMATO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * progmodes/compile.el (compilation-error-regexp-alist-alist): Add regexp for gcov. 2005-04-05 Masatake YAMATO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * compilation.txt (symbol)

Re: emacs -Q not documented

2005-04-05 Thread Miles Bader
On Apr 5, 2005 7:27 PM, Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >emacs -Q -N > > where -Q means "no init files or site-init files" > and -N means turn off all frame features I should add that doing so is more flexible for debugging too -- for instance, for reporting a bug with menus, you don't

Re: emacs -Q not documented

2005-04-05 Thread Miles Bader
On Apr 5, 2005 7:04 PM, Kim F. Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There seems no reason not to split it into a couple of more coherent > > options though. > > So instead of "emacs -Q" I have to ask a user to please try > "emacs -q -A -T --no-bla-bla -V --no-blinking-cursor" That's a strawman.

Re: Changes in calendar/time-date.el

2005-04-05 Thread Kim F. Storm
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Apr 5, 2005 4:14 PM, Kim F. Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Can't you move this closer to the definition of message-make-date? >> >> It's only necessary to suppress compiler warnings for that function. >> > >> > I put it inside the defun. >> >>

Re: emacs -Q not documented

2005-04-05 Thread Kim F. Storm
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Apr 5, 2005 4:31 PM, Kim F. Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Just because we cannot find a long name for it -- that's silly, IMO! >> Please keep the option. It serves the purpose it was added for very >> well!! > > There seems no reason not to split

Re: emacs -Q not documented

2005-04-05 Thread Miles Bader
On Apr 5, 2005 4:31 PM, Kim F. Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just because we cannot find a long name for it -- that's silly, IMO! > Please keep the option. It serves the purpose it was added for very > well!! There seems no reason not to split it into a couple of more coherent options though

Re: Changes in calendar/time-date.el

2005-04-05 Thread Miles Bader
On Apr 5, 2005 4:14 PM, Kim F. Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Can't you move this closer to the definition of message-make-date? > >> It's only necessary to suppress compiler warnings for that function. > > > > I put it inside the defun. > > Doing that will slow down the function, so if tha

Re: emacs -Q not documented

2005-04-05 Thread Kim F. Storm
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The patch is trivial, but we should probably add a long name for it. > > I guess so--if we keep it. But the set of things it does is not > really coherent. > > It turns off all init files; it also turns off various frame features > such as the me

Re: Changes in calendar/time-date.el

2005-04-05 Thread Kim F. Storm
Reiner Steib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Can't you move this closer to the definition of message-make-date? >> It's only necessary to suppress compiler warnings for that function. > > I put it inside the defun. Doing that will slow down the function, so if that function is used a lot, I think