Re: [O] Remove Org from Emacs repository?

2016-12-18 Thread Maria Shinoto
Some thoughts from a beginner: Now that Emacs has had package.el for some years, and Org is installable directly from GNU ELPA, would it be a good idea to remove Org from Emacs's source repository? Beginners are overwhelmed with the options and traps, to do something wrong. It is almost

Re: [O] Remove Org from Emacs repository?

2016-12-18 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Reuben Thomas writes: > Now that Emacs has had package.el for some years, and Org is > installable directly from GNU ELPA, would it be a good idea to remove > Org from Emacs's source repository? I think the fact that this is an issue at all is an indication of a shortcoming in

Re: [O] Remove Org from Emacs repository?

2016-12-18 Thread MaDhAt2r
I am for leaving it to the users discretion as to weather or not they have Org installed. I think if anyone out there wants to open an .org file, more than likely, they know what it is and how to get it. If not there is a plethora of information out there to point them in the right direction.

Re: [O] org.texi edits, patch attached

2016-12-18 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Lambda Coder writes: > I have more. I've just finished the Exporting chapter. See the attached > patch file against current maint branch. Thank you! Usual comments and questions follow. > +Org has export facilities for printing, format conversions, and general >

Re: [O] Remove Org from Emacs repository?

2016-12-18 Thread Reuben Thomas
On 18 December 2016 at 19:21, Samuel Wales wrote: > auto-mode-alist has more than 200 entries. we're gonna remove .org? > ​Org is nearly 90kLOC, or about 6.5% of the total ELisp code currently in Emacs. It's bigger than CEDET, smaller than GNUS. It's a project of its own

Re: [O] Bug: Regexp matcher stack overflow in org-indent initialization [8.2.10 (release_8.2.10 @ /usr/share/emacs/25.1/lisp/org/)]

2016-12-18 Thread Vasilij Schneidermann
> I slightly simplified the regexp. Does it solve the issue? This looks good, unfortunately it's hard to prove the issue won't ever happen again, so I'll just leave it at that. Thanks for your efforts!

Re: [O] Automatically Generating IDs From Title and Date

2016-12-18 Thread Samuel Wales
On 12/18/16, Karl Voit wrote: > Usually, my IDs start with the current ISO day to enforce uniqueness > and look like this: my understanding, which might be incorrect, is that custom id is for human-readable purposes, while id is for uuid. although you could prepend to

Re: [O] org-depend: dependencies between TODO entries in different files

2016-12-18 Thread Samuel Wales
lovely that we are thinking of new stuff for org-depend. On 12/12/16, Karl Voit wrote: >> it can make a remote task get scheduled upon doneifying current task? for me this would be the killer feature. -- The Kafka Pandemic: http://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com The

Re: [O] Remove Org from Emacs repository?

2016-12-18 Thread Samuel Wales
auto-mode-alist has more than 200 entries. we're gonna remove .org? "you must install org to view this format" is a bit too minimal for my taste. :) sounds like adobe flash. :) surely this topic was raised to have a bit of fun seeing all the responses? :) -- The Kafka Pandemic:

Re: [O] Remove Org from Emacs repository?

2016-12-18 Thread Lambda Coder
+1 (keep it in) On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Xebar Saram wrote: > +1 for keeping it in > > i often debug my org based init config by launching emacs -Q and its great > to have org built in for that :) > > Z > > On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 7:11 PM, Christian Moe

Re: [O] Remove Org from Emacs repository?

2016-12-18 Thread Xebar Saram
+1 for keeping it in i often debug my org based init config by launching emacs -Q and its great to have org built in for that :) Z On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 7:11 PM, Christian Moe wrote: > > +1. > > (= Keep it in.) > > Yours, > Christian > > Carsten Dominik writes: > > >

Re: [O] org-depend improvements: ID picker

2016-12-18 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Karl Voit writes: > * Karl Voit wrote: >> * Carsten Dominik wrote: >> >>> Since ord-depend was only proof of concept, we could also think a bit more >>> broadly about what it should be able to do. Is there specific >>> functionality

Re: [O] Remove Org from Emacs repository?

2016-12-18 Thread Christian Moe
+1. (= Keep it in.) Yours, Christian Carsten Dominik writes: > Dear all, > > I'd hate to see Org removed from Emacs. It took a lot of work to get it > in, and I believe that the vast majority of Emacs users does not install > packages. For a newbie to get to Emacs and to be able to open a

Re: [O] Remove Org from Emacs repository?

2016-12-18 Thread Reuben Thomas
On 18 December 2016 at 13:20, Carsten Dominik wrote: > Dear all, > > I'd hate to see Org removed from Emacs. It took a lot of work to get it > in, and I believe that the vast majority of Emacs users does not install > packages. For a newbie to get to Emacs and to be able to

Re: [O] Remove Org from Emacs repository?

2016-12-18 Thread Kaushal Modi
Carsten Dominik writes: > > > I'd hate to see Org removed from Emacs. It took a lot of work to get it > > in, and I believe that the vast majority of Emacs users does not install > > packages. For a newbie to get to Emacs and to be able to open a .org > file > > is a big plus.

Re: [O] Android org app with sync?

2016-12-18 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Sunday, 18 Dec 2016 at 01:59, Alasdair McAndrew wrote: [...] > Are there any other apps which will allow me to update and edit > org files on my android device, and have them sync automatically? MobileOrg: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.matburt.mobileorg -- : Eric S

Re: [O] Remove Org from Emacs repository?

2016-12-18 Thread Greg Troxel
Carsten Dominik writes: > I'd hate to see Org removed from Emacs. It took a lot of work to get it > in, and I believe that the vast majority of Emacs users does not install > packages. For a newbie to get to Emacs and to be able to open a .org file > is a big plus. So my vote

Re: [O] Remove Org from Emacs repository?

2016-12-18 Thread Rasmus
Carsten Dominik writes: > So my vote goes toward keeping it in. 1+ -- Tack, ni svenska vakttorn. Med plutonium tvingar vi dansken på knä!

Re: [O] Remove Org from Emacs repository?

2016-12-18 Thread Carsten Dominik
Dear all, I'd hate to see Org removed from Emacs. It took a lot of work to get it in, and I believe that the vast majority of Emacs users does not install packages. For a newbie to get to Emacs and to be able to open a .org file is a big plus. So my vote goes toward keeping it in. Carsten On

[O] Cannot reach support button on orgmode web page

2016-12-18 Thread Karl Voit
Hi! - http://orgmode.org/Changes.html - Firefox 45.6.0 - Debian GNU/Linux Jessie When I try to move my mouse over the "Support Org" button in the lower right corner, the following message gets moved in, making it impossible to me to reach the button: "If Emacs is an operating system, Org-mode

[O] org-depend improvements: TRIGGER in Combination With Set SCHEDULED

2016-12-18 Thread Karl Voit
* Karl Voit wrote: > * Carsten Dominik wrote: > >> Since ord-depend was only proof of concept, we could also think a bit more >> broadly about what it should be able to do. Is there specific >> functionality it also should support, besides the

[O] org-depend improvements: Canceled Tasks Do Cancel Their Dependencies as Well

2016-12-18 Thread Karl Voit
* Karl Voit wrote: > * Carsten Dominik wrote: > >> Since ord-depend was only proof of concept, we could also think a bit more >> broadly about what it should be able to do. Is there specific >> functionality it also should support, besides the

[O] Automatically Generating IDs From Title and Date

2016-12-18 Thread Karl Voit
* Karl Voit wrote: > * Carsten Dominik wrote: > >> Since ord-depend was only proof of concept, we could also think a bit more >> broadly about what it should be able to do. Is there specific >> functionality it also should support, besides the

[O] org-depend improvements: ID picker

2016-12-18 Thread Karl Voit
* Karl Voit wrote: > * Carsten Dominik wrote: > >> Since ord-depend was only proof of concept, we could also think a bit more >> broadly about what it should be able to do. Is there specific >> functionality it also should support, besides the

Re: [O] Remove Org from Emacs repository?

2016-12-18 Thread aaermolov
2 cents from me... Besides I continuously see many users praising Emacs just for Org presence (they even may be completely non-technical users), I'm personally think Org may be removed from Emacs distribution because: 1) all Reuben's argument seems sane; 2) there are situations when someone