Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide writes:
> Kyle Meyer writes:
>> So, it seems that changing Org to honor electric-indent-mode is now
>> making some users aware of org-adapt-indentation and that its default
>> value is not what they want.
>
> I’ve seen before that increasing the depth of a headline
Tim Cross writes:
> Kyle Meyer writes:
>
>> Kévin Le Gouguec writes:
>>
>>> Detlef Steuer writes:
>>> Note that indenting section bodies by default predates Org 9.4: in Org
>>> 9.3, hitting TAB on the first line of text after a heading indents it to
>>> column LEVEL+1.
>>
>> Yes,
Kévin Le Gouguec writes:
> Before being applied, this change has been discussed on emacs-devel and
> emacs-orgmode; it has then been documented in ORG-NEWS. Which other
> places do you think we should have reached out to?
I don’t think you really had a chance to reach enough people. I’m here
Greg Minshall writes:
> i wonder if a grid might help? i.e., contexts in which we are all
> happy, others where we might disagree? below, i try; i'm sure i've
> missed cases.
>
> question: what does do/would we like it to do when we are in?
>
> =
>
Kyle Meyer writes:
> So, it seems that changing Org to honor electric-indent-mode is now
> making some users aware of org-adapt-indentation and that its default
> value is not what they want.
I’ve seen before that increasing the depth of a headline with M-→
indents all its content. That was
i wonder if a grid might help? i.e., contexts in which we are all
happy, others where we might disagree? below, i try; i'm sure i've
missed cases.
question: what does do/would we like it to do when we are in?
=
tables: next row, current column
Org Src
Kyle Meyer writes:
> Kévin Le Gouguec writes:
>
>> Detlef Steuer writes:
>> Note that indenting section bodies by default predates Org 9.4: in Org
>> 9.3, hitting TAB on the first line of text after a heading indents it to
>> column LEVEL+1.
>
> Yes, org-adapt-indentation has been around
i wanted first to thank everyone for their participation in this
discussion. i want to not be annoying. and, yes, this is a long
thread, and for me, at least, it's hard to keep track of what was said.
(like many, i assumed this was some bug, triggered by my configuration
TIMES emacs release
Titus von der Malsburg writes:
> Subject: [PATCH] lisp/org.el: Allow hiding #+SUBTITLE: keyword via
> `org-hidden-keywords'
>
> * lisp/org.el: Allow users to include 'subtitle in
> `org-hidden-keywords' to hide #+SUBTITLE: keyword.
>
> This way #+SUBTITLE is treated like similar keywords for
Kévin Le Gouguec writes:
> Detlef Steuer writes:
> Note that indenting section bodies by default predates Org 9.4: in Org
> 9.3, hitting TAB on the first line of text after a heading indents it to
> column LEVEL+1.
Yes, org-adapt-indentation has been around (with a default of t) since
4be4c5623
* Kévin Le Gouguec [2020-11-16 01:00]:
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:CREATED: [2020-11-16 Mon 01:15]
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> - Plenty of Org users do not expect it to behave like programming modes
> wrt indentation (they might not even use programming modes).
>
> - These
Jean Louis writes:
> There is just slight difference, and that is what I learned from
> introduction to Org mode that it is "plain text" kind of mode. I can
> do and write how I wish. My habit comes from being used to indent when
> I want and then to follow indentation in that specific
* Gustavo Barros [2020-11-15 17:51]:
> > I do, thank you for reminder. Us in plural are sometimes teachers or
> > mentors who educate other people who are supposed to edit Org files in
> > most simple manner, and those people will never be able to write to
> > this list to find out which option
* Kévin Le Gouguec [2020-11-15 15:45]:
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:CREATED: [2020-11-15 Sun 16:26]
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:END:
> Jean Louis writes:
>
> > Indentation in fundamental mode:
> >
> > ** HereRET
> > I come here.
> > But only if I start indenting
> >Like hereRET
> >
Hi Jean,
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 at 09:09, Jean Louis wrote:
That is useful.
I'm glad to hear that.
You (plural) could probably also get some juice from looking into,
and
incorporating to muscle memory, `M-RET', `C-RET' and `C-j'.
I do, thank you for reminder. Us in plural are
Detlef Steuer writes:
> I'm constantly bitten by that change, but was too lazy to dig for the
> cause. But now that I know, I want to add 2c.
>
> If one writes prose it looks much more natural to have
>
> * Healine
>
> start editing in column 1 of next row.
> (Personally I would prefer to start
* Gustavo Barros [2020-11-15 14:49]:
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:CREATED: [2020-11-15 Sun 15:09]
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:END:
> I'm quite surprised by the reaction to this issue, because
> `electric-indent-mode' *does not change Org's indentation settings*, it
> just applies them
Jean Louis writes:
> Indentation in fundamental mode:
>
> ** HereRET
> I come here.
> But only if I start indenting
>Like hereRET
>Then I continue here
Hi Jean,
My understanding of electric-indent-mode is that it tries to make "RET"
equivalent to "insert newline; indent according to
(defun org-babel-plantuml-make-body (body params)
"Return PlantUML input string.
BODY is the content of the source block and PARAMS is a property list
of source block parameters. This function relies on the
`org-babel-expand-body:generic' function to extract `:var' entries
from PARAMS and on
Am Sun, 15 Nov 2020 08:48:56 -0300
schrieb Gustavo Barros :
> Hi All,
>
> On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 at 13:37, Greg Minshall
> wrote:
>
> > hi, all.
> >
> > David Rogers wrote:
> >
> >> Am I crazy to say that your last example of unwanted behavior is
> >> easier for me to read and understand? (and
Hi All,
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 at 13:37, Greg Minshall wrote:
> hi, all.
>
> David Rogers wrote:
>
>> Am I crazy to say that your last example of unwanted behavior is
>> easier for me to read and understand? (and to me the common
>> indenting is a hopeless mess?)
>
> yes, in fact, the "new" way
Greg Minshall writes:
> hi, all.
>
> David Rogers wrote:
>
>> Am I crazy to say that your last example of unwanted behavior is
>> easier for me to read and understand? (and to me the common
>> indenting is a hopeless mess?)
>
> yes, in fact, the "new" way sort of has the buffer indentation
>
> > Am I crazy to say that your last example of unwanted behavior is
> > easier for me to read and understand? (and to me the common
> > indenting is a hopeless mess?)
>
> I think the second becomes horribly hard to read if you have more than
> one line in the body. I use org-mode for
David Rogers writes:
>> Common indenting in Org mode is:
>>
>> * Heading
>> Text
>> ** Heading
>> Text
>> *** Heading text
>> Text
>> Heading
>> Text here
>> * Heading
>> Text
>> ** Heading
>> Text
>>
>> AND if somebody likes to indent differently electric indent mode
>> would
hi, all.
David Rogers wrote:
> Am I crazy to say that your last example of unwanted behavior is
> easier for me to read and understand? (and to me the common
> indenting is a hopeless mess?)
yes, in fact, the "new" way sort of has the buffer indentation match
that of the outline structure of
> you can find a lot of functions like the ones in jupyter at
> https://github.com/jkitchin/scimax/blob/master/scimax-ob.el. I setup my
> ipython like this:
> https://github.com/jkitchin/scimax/blob/master/scimax-org-babel-ipython-upstream.el#L89
>
> although I will note there are several setups
* David Rogers [2020-11-15 10:48]:
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:CREATED: [2020-11-15 Sun 11:53]
:ID: e9973880-3447-42c6-99e4-2a0b430d136b
:END:
> Jean Louis writes:
>
> > * David Rogers [2020-11-15 01:44]:
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > After reading several of the responses to this, I’ve started to
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