Re: [O] Bug: #+STARTUP: overview and org-startup-folded have no effect [7.9.3e (7.9.3e-1032-g791a8d @ /home/horn/Repos/el/org-mode/lisp/)]

2013-03-06 Thread Tassilo Horn
Hi Bastien, >> Ok, the testfile looks like >> >> * The folded top-level headline >> >> ** TODO Some test todo headline 0 >> >>- also some contents >> >> ** TODO Some test todo headline 1 >> >>- also some contents >> >> and has 2000 such subheadlines. File size is 127K. >> `org-startup-fo

Re: [O] Bug: #+STARTUP: overview and org-startup-folded have no effect [7.9.3e (7.9.3e-1032-g791a8d @ /home/horn/Repos/el/org-mode/lisp/)]

2013-03-06 Thread Bastien
Hi Tassilo, Tassilo Horn writes: > Bastien writes: > >>> I have seven agenda files, all not too big (~10K on average), and I >>> use an averagely performant computer (5 years old dual core laptop). >>> For me, the difference between `org-agenda-inhibit-startup' set to t >>> or nil is not notica

Re: [O] Bug: #+STARTUP: overview and org-startup-folded have no effect [7.9.3e (7.9.3e-1032-g791a8d @ /home/horn/Repos/el/org-mode/lisp/)]

2013-02-14 Thread Tassilo Horn
Bastien writes: Hi Bastien, >> It's an optimization done by Bastien. > > I think it's fine to have this by default, the time spared is worth it > IMHO. But I understand many people may want to turn this off. > >> There is a variable to inhibit it. > > (setq org-agenda-inhibit-startup nil) > > I

Re: [O] Bug: #+STARTUP: overview and org-startup-folded have no effect [7.9.3e (7.9.3e-1032-g791a8d @ /home/horn/Repos/el/org-mode/lisp/)]

2013-02-14 Thread Bastien
Hi Tassilo, "Sebastien Vauban" writes: > It's an optimization done by Bastien. I think it's fine to have this by default, the time spared is worth it IMHO. But I understand many people may want to turn this off. > There is a variable to inhibit it. (setq org-agenda-inhibit-startup nil) I

Re: [O] Bug: #+STARTUP: overview and org-startup-folded have no effect [7.9.3e (7.9.3e-1032-g791a8d @ /home/horn/Repos/el/org-mode/lisp/)]

2013-02-14 Thread Tassilo Horn
Bastien writes: >> I have seven agenda files, all not too big (~10K on average), and I >> use an averagely performant computer (5 years old dual core laptop). >> For me, the difference between `org-agenda-inhibit-startup' set to t >> or nil is not noticable at all. In both cases, it's less than

Re: [O] Bug: #+STARTUP: overview and org-startup-folded have no effect [7.9.3e (7.9.3e-1032-g791a8d @ /home/horn/Repos/el/org-mode/lisp/)]

2013-02-14 Thread Tassilo Horn
Bastien writes: Hi Bastien, >> So the problem seems to be that only if an agenda file is opened >> during execution of `org-agenda-list', it's expanded completely. >> Else, `org-startup-folded' works correctly. > > Exactly -- hence this commit: > > http://orgmode.org/cgit.cgi/org-mode.git/commit

Re: [O] Bug: #+STARTUP: overview and org-startup-folded have no effect [7.9.3e (7.9.3e-1032-g791a8d @ /home/horn/Repos/el/org-mode/lisp/)]

2013-02-14 Thread Bastien
Hi Tassilo, Tassilo Horn writes: > I have seven agenda files, all not too big (~10K on average), and I use > an averagely performant computer (5 years old dual core laptop). For > me, the difference between `org-agenda-inhibit-startup' set to t or nil > is not noticable at all. In both cases,

Re: [O] Bug: #+STARTUP: overview and org-startup-folded have no effect [7.9.3e (7.9.3e-1032-g791a8d @ /home/horn/Repos/el/org-mode/lisp/)]

2013-02-14 Thread Tassilo Horn
Bastien writes: Hi Bastien, >> Ah, ok. I'm not a big fan of optimizations that break correctness, >> and the current behavior is simply wrong wrt. the docs of >> `org-startup-folded' and the #+STARTUP property. > > I just updated the docstring of org-startup-folded and mentioned > `org-agenda-i

Re: [O] Bug: #+STARTUP: overview and org-startup-folded have no effect [7.9.3e (7.9.3e-1032-g791a8d @ /home/horn/Repos/el/org-mode/lisp/)]

2013-02-14 Thread Bastien
Hi Tassilo, Tassilo Horn writes: > So the problem seems to be that only if an agenda file is opened during > execution of `org-agenda-list', it's expanded completely. Else, > `org-startup-folded' works correctly. Exactly -- hence this commit: http://orgmode.org/cgit.cgi/org-mode.git/commit/?i

Re: [O] Bug: #+STARTUP: overview and org-startup-folded have no effect [7.9.3e (7.9.3e-1032-g791a8d @ /home/horn/Repos/el/org-mode/lisp/)]

2013-02-14 Thread Tassilo Horn
Tassilo Horn writes: > Since recently, after starting up emacs and bringing up an org agenda > which loads all my agenda files into buffers as a side-effect, all > entries in all files are fully expanded, although org-startup-folded > is set to t. > > I've tried adding a > > #+STARTUP: fold > >

Re: [O] Bug: #+STARTUP: overview and org-startup-folded have no effect [7.9.3e (7.9.3e-1032-g791a8d @ /home/horn/Repos/el/org-mode/lisp/)]

2013-02-14 Thread Bastien
Hi Tassilo, Tassilo Horn writes: > Ah, ok. I'm not a big fan of optimizations that break correctness, and > the current behavior is simply wrong wrt. the docs of > `org-startup-folded' and the #+STARTUP property. I just updated the docstring of org-startup-folded and mentioned `org-agenda-inhi

Re: [O] Bug: #+STARTUP: overview and org-startup-folded have no effect [7.9.3e (7.9.3e-1032-g791a8d @ /home/horn/Repos/el/org-mode/lisp/)]

2013-02-14 Thread Tassilo Horn
"Sebastien Vauban" writes: >> Everything is completely expanded after the initial startup. > > It's an optimization done by Bastien. There is a variable to inhibit > it. Ah, ok. I'm not a big fan of optimizations that break correctness, and the current behavior is simply wrong wrt. the docs of

Re: [O] Bug: #+STARTUP: overview and org-startup-folded have no effect [7.9.3e (7.9.3e-1032-g791a8d @ /home/horn/Repos/el/org-mode/lisp/)]

2013-02-14 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Hi Tassilo, Tassilo Horn wrote: > Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and > what in fact did happen. You don't know how to make a good report? See > > http://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback > > Your bug report will be posted to the Org-mode mailing l

[O] Bug: #+STARTUP: overview and org-startup-folded have no effect [7.9.3e (7.9.3e-1032-g791a8d @ /home/horn/Repos/el/org-mode/lisp/)]

2013-02-14 Thread Tassilo Horn
Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and what in fact did happen. You don't know how to make a good report? See http://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback Your bug report will be posted to the Org-mode mailing list. -