Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

Nicolas Goaziou writes: > I made some final changes to "hide-table-column" branch: > > - Now C-u C-c TAB shrink columns with a width cookie and expands the > others; > > - When point is before the first column or after the last one, C-c TAB > asks for columns

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

Completing myself, Nicolas Goaziou writes: > `org-table-toggle-column-width' is now bound to "C-c TAB". I removed > "noshrink" STARTUP keyword, which wasn't useful. I also introduced an > honest test coverage. > > Still no documentation, though. I made some final

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

Hello, Adam Porter writes: > My only feedback here is that maybe the startup keywords would be more > descriptive if they were something like "table-shrink" or > "column-shrink". I could imagine some new Org users conflating "folded" > and "shrink" until they have used a

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

Hello, Eric S Fraga writes: > Thanks Nicolas. Sounds very nice, matching at least my use cases quite > well. I'll give this a try soon and will get back to you. For the record, I updated the "hide-table-column" branch again. `org-table-toggle-column-width' is now bound to

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Moreover, I added two new STARTUP keywords: "shrink" and "noshrink", > which allow to apply aforementioned `org-table-shrink' command on all > tables upon opening a document. Not that "align" no longer toggle column > width. Hi Nicolas, I'm

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

Hello, Rick Frankel writes: > Personally, my use of width cookies has been mostly for visual display of > columns are very long and will wrap in an html or latex table export, but > would force the display too wide. My ideal default would be to have a setting > which would

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

Thanks Nicolas. Sounds very nice, matching at least my use cases quite well. I'll give this a try soon and will get back to you. -- : Eric S Fraga via Emacs 26.0.50, Org release_9.0.9-573-g09e612 signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

Hello, bvrag...@iitk.ac.in (B.V. Raghav) writes: > Can I request/suggest a new feature `#+TABLE_PROPERTIES: ' analogous to > `#+TBLFM: ' that can save the state for those of us who want to, and the > others may enjoy the volatileness[?] Thank you for your suggestion. However, I'm looking for

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

Hello, Eric S Fraga writes: > I have two use cases which currently are managed with the width cookies > and I can see that they probably should be managed differently. The > cases are: > > 1. a table with wide columns that is used to collect information >(publications

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

Eric S Fraga writes: > Hi Nicolas, > > I agree completely with your stated objective, specifically separating > viewing from content and/or export. However, I am not sure this is > achievable without losing some quite appealing current functionality. > If I understant

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

So I haven't posted in a while, but i use table a lot, so here's my $0.02. Personally, my use of width cookies has been mostly for visual display of columns are very long and will wrap in an html or latex table export, but would force the display too wide. My ideal default would be to have a

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

Dear Nicolas, I apologise for not understanding fully what you propose. I use org-mode extensively, so any possibility of "change" tends to make me anxious. Nicolas> Besides, columns cookies may work for you, but, as pointed Nicolas> out, they are limited: Nicolas> - Setting a

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

Hi Nicolas, I agree completely with your stated objective, specifically separating viewing from content and/or export. However, I am not sure this is achievable without losing some quite appealing current functionality. I have two use cases which currently are managed with the width cookies and

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

Hello, Colin Baxter writes: > Column cookies work - and they work well for me - so why on earth remove > something that is actually *useful*? Really, I explained already the motivation, right from my initial post. Anyway, let me re-iterate and expound it a bit. The first

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

Hello, I have come to this discussion late, but I totally agree with Kaushal, whose use of tables almost mirrors my own. Kaushal> I didn't understand the root reason for this change. If one Kaushal> doesn't like using the column width cookies, then they can Kaushal> choose to not

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

> Hello, > Kaushal Modi writes: > This is not possible, and is exactly what annoys me in the current > implementation. > Moreover, I'm pretty sure you don't review every table in your > document at the second it is opened. So there is no need to

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 3:09 PM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > Hello, > > Kaushal Modi writes: > > > 1. Need to save the column narrowed state somehow individually for each > > column, specific to a table in a document. > > This is not possible, and is

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

Hello, Kaushal Modi writes: > 1. Need to save the column narrowed state somehow individually for each > column, specific to a table in a document. This is not possible, and is exactly what annoys me in the current implementation. Moreover, I'm pretty sure you don't

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 8:26 AM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > > I don't use column narrowing; I don't know what other users expect from > it either. > I use column narrowing when I need to fit all columns of an org table in a screen width (roughly 100 chars wide). If I have

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

Hi Nicolas On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 1:47 PM, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > Michael Brand writes: >> Also I hope that you can build in complete removal of columns for >> export similar to as discussed around here: >>

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

Uwe Brauer writes: > That would be great indeed. So please don't drop the branch but instead, > if you have time, try that and I would be more than happy to test it and > then hopefully narrowing based on cookies could be dropped. I will as soon as I have an idea about the

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

>>> "Nicolas" == Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Uwe Brauer writes: >> So you are saying we cannot have both. > I'm not. I'm opposed to have overlapping features with two different > implementations, that's all. >> But couldn't the feature of

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

Hello, Michael Brand writes: > Also I hope that you can build in complete removal of columns for > export similar to as discussed around here: > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2016-04/msg00672.html This is orthogonal to the issue at hand. Besides,

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

Uwe Brauer writes: > So you are saying we cannot have both. I'm not. I'm opposed to have overlapping features with two different implementations, that's all. > But couldn't the feature of shrink one particular wide column to a > certain width be implemented using your new

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

>>> "Nicolas" == Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Hello, > Uwe Brauer writes: >> If you want to implement the second feature differently, because of >> maintain reasons that sound reasonable, but please don't simple remove >> the second feature.

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

>>> "Nicolas" == Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Hello, > Uwe Brauer writes: >> If you want to implement the second feature differently, because of >> maintain reasons that sound reasonable, but please don't simple remove >> the second

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

Hello, Uwe Brauer writes: > If you want to implement the second feature differently, because of > maintain reasons that sound reasonable, but please don't simple remove > the second feature. Then I'll just drop this branch. I'm against having the same (sub-set of a) feature

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

> Hello, > Uwe Brauer writes: > There is much overlapping between the two features. I'd rather implement > so sort of narrowing using shrunk columns than have the two features in > the code base. Well all I am saying is there is the need for two features:

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

Hi Nicolas On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 12:11 AM, Kaushal Modi wrote: > The feature works nicely as explained, but please do not remove the width > cookie! > > The new feature supports only completely hiding a column. But what we lose > by removal of width cookie is: > > -

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 10:44 AM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > Hello, > > Uwe Brauer writes: > > > This is the patch I applied and tested? If so, I think it is a very good > > thing and should be in master. > > This is the same patch, along with the complete

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

Hello, Uwe Brauer writes: > I just was faced with a table which just contained 3 columns but very > many rows. In second column however was very wide, it contained titled > of journals. So 'cutting' them to half was sufficient to identify them > but allowed me to see the third

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

Uwe Brauer writes: "Nicolas" == Nicolas Goaziou writes: > > > Hello, > > Uwe Brauer writes: > > >> This is the patch I applied and tested? If so, I think it is a very > good > >> thing and should be in master. > >

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

>>> "Nicolas" == Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Hello, > Uwe Brauer writes: >> This is the patch I applied and tested? If so, I think it is a very good >> thing and should be in master. > This is the same patch, along with the complete

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

Hello, Uwe Brauer writes: > This is the patch I applied and tested? If so, I think it is a very good > thing and should be in master. This is the same patch, along with the complete removal of old column narrowing using width cookies. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou

Re: [O] [RFC] Shrink columns dynamically

>>> "Nicolas" == Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Hello, > I'd like to replace the visual effect of width cookies (not > interpretation by export back-ends) with a more dynamic one. To that > effect, I pushed a "hide-table-column" branch in the repository. This is