Re: Fwd: errors when using org-agenda

2022-09-11 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Max Nikulin writes: >> Yes, but unfortunately it does not handle early Org loading correctly. >> >> Try the following init.el: >> >> (require 'org) >> (add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name "/path/to/newest/org-mode/lisp")) >> >> Then run emacs -Q -l /path/to/init.el >> >> M-x org-version

Re: Fwd: errors when using org-agenda

2021-10-27 Thread Max Nikulin
On 24/10/2021 15:34, Ihor Radchenko wrote: Max Nikulin writes: `org-version' with FULL argument checks whether org and org-loaddedfs are loaded from the same directory and adds "mixed installation!" to the version string. `org-submit-bug-report' puts full version to the message subject but it

Re: Fwd: errors when using org-agenda

2021-10-24 Thread Greg Minshall
Tim, > The key point to remember is that a mized installation is not about > loading org sources from two different org versions. The problem is > about compilation of org where some of the source definitions are > already loaded (from existing installation) and result in output which > is a

Re: Fwd: errors when using org-agenda

2021-10-24 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Max Nikulin writes: > `org-version' with FULL argument checks whether org and org-loaddedfs > are loaded from the same directory and adds "mixed installation!" to the > version string. `org-submit-bug-report' puts full version to the message > subject but it is easily to miss this warning

Re: Fwd: errors when using org-agenda

2021-10-24 Thread Max Nikulin
On 23/10/2021 17:26, Greg Minshall wrote: a question: is there any way that we can, as org starts up, detect either the actuality, or possibility, of a mixed installation? maybe something like `org-version' with FULL argument checks whether org and org-loaddedfs are loaded from the same

Re: Fwd: errors when using org-agenda

2021-10-24 Thread Tim Cross
Greg Minshall writes: > Tim, > > i wonder if the emacs variable `load-history` might be of (approximate) > help? i submit a starter routine below. as the comments say: caveat, > caveat, caveat. > > i don't think something as uncertain as this would be a candidate for > normal run-time

Re: [PATCH] Re: Fwd: errors when using org-agenda

2021-10-24 Thread Tim Cross
Ihor Radchenko writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> What would really be needed is some way to check when org is going to be >> compiled that no existing org functionality is loaded. Doubt this can be >> easily done within org itself because of a chicken and egg problem - you >> would have to

[PATCH] Re: Fwd: errors when using org-agenda

2021-10-23 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Tim Cross writes: > What would really be needed is some way to check when org is going to be > compiled that no existing org functionality is loaded. Doubt this can be > easily done within org itself because of a chicken and egg problem - you > would have to load org to run the code to check if

Re: Fwd: errors when using org-agenda

2021-10-23 Thread Greg Minshall
Tim, i wonder if the emacs variable `load-history` might be of (approximate) help? i submit a starter routine below. as the comments say: caveat, caveat, caveat. i don't think something as uncertain as this would be a candidate for normal run-time checking (and, i'm not even sure when one

Re: Fwd: errors when using org-agenda

2021-10-23 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Tim Cross writes: Greg Minshall writes: (and, after fifteen years of vi, and now 25 of emacs, i guess i'll skip the spacemacs experience. :) Similar past for me as well. I used vi from early/mid 80x until mid 90s and then switched to Emacs and used standard Emacs bindings until a

Re: Fwd: errors when using org-agenda

2021-10-23 Thread Tim Cross
Greg Minshall writes: > (and, after fifteen years of vi, and now 25 of emacs, i guess i'll skip > the spacemacs experience. :) > Similar past for me as well. I used vi from early/mid 80x until mid 90s and then switched to Emacs and used standard Emacs bindings until a couple of years ago,

Re: Fwd: errors when using org-agenda

2021-10-23 Thread Greg Minshall
Tim, thanks. i see that it is more complicated. (and, after fifteen years of vi, and now 25 of emacs, i guess i'll skip the spacemacs experience. :) cheers, Greg

Re: Fwd: errors when using org-agenda

2021-10-23 Thread William McCoy
Ok, great -- that fixed it!  I thought I had been careful to get rid of my old org from org elpa before I installed 9.5.  However, I hadn't considered that there was an older org still installed that had been packaged with my emacs 27.2 installation. So thanks very much for your quick advice. 

Re: Fwd: errors when using org-agenda

2021-10-23 Thread Tim Cross
Greg Minshall writes: > Tim, et al., > >> These types of errors are frequently caused by a 'mixed' installation >> of org versions. This will happen if you upgrade org when org is >> already loaded in the instance of emacs used to perform the upgrade. > > a question: is there any way that we

Re: Fwd: errors when using org-agenda

2021-10-23 Thread Greg Minshall
Tim, et al., > These types of errors are frequently caused by a 'mixed' installation > of org versions. This will happen if you upgrade org when org is > already loaded in the instance of emacs used to perform the upgrade. a question: is there any way that we can, as org starts up, detect either

Re: Fwd: errors when using org-agenda

2021-10-22 Thread Tim Cross
William McCoy writes: > I am modifying my previous message (that has not yet appeared on this list) > with > some additional information regarding this issue: > > > I have been having some strange errors when using org-agenda.  The errors seem > to have begun about the time I upgraded to org