[Orgmode] Re: Bug?: 7.02/7.3 - Unable to set `org-capture-templates'in a

[Anupam Sengupta]

Anupam Sengupta  gmail.com> writes:


> I use a _separate_ file for saving the settings using the Custom
> interface.  This includes all org-mode settings and templates, and have
> been working well till 7.01h.
> 
> *However*, after upgrading to 7.02, I found that the capture templates
> are *not* getting set from the custom-file, which does contain the
> correct template (info "(Emacs) Saving Customizations").
> 
> The basic problem is that the `org-capture-templates' variable is set as
> `nil' on load, and `describe-variable' returns a 'nil' as well.
> 

...

Found a solution to the problem.  This has to do with order of setting the
custom-file and loading it (needs to be done *after* the org-install). 

I.e., the order in init.el needs to be:

 ...

 (require 'org-install)
 (setq org-default-notes-file "~/test.org")

 (define-key global-map "\C-ca"  'org-agenda)
 (define-key global-map "\C-cc"  'org-capture)

 ...
 ;; Needs to be done after org-mode is loaded
 (setq custom-file (concat my-customizations-dir "emacs-custom.el"))
 (load custom-file)


This allows the `org-capture-templates' saved in the separate emacs-custom.el 
file to be correctly loaded.  Note that this behavior is from 7.02/7.3, and 
probably has to do with the custom-autoload definition of this variable in
org-install.el.


Hope this explanation helps.

Regards,
-- 
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Re: [Orgmode] [PATCH] AM/PM support on the agenda timegrid

[Christopher Allan Webber]

And I'm indifferent, am/pm works for me :)

Pushed a patch.

Carsten Dominik  writes:

> Hi Christopher,
>
> can I convince you to use am and pm instead of AM and PM?  The
> capitals hurt my eyes :)
>
> - Carsten
>
> On Nov 6, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Christopher Allan Webber wrote:
>
>> Based on off-list contact, apparently at least one other person is
>> using
>> this, so FYI I pushed another commit which resolves an issue where
>> there
>> was no space between the time and the event.  That's fixed now, things
>> look correct now like:
>>
>> Saturday6 November 2010
>>   8:00AM 
>>  ccommons:9:00AM-11:00AM Some weekend work
>> :work::
>>  10:00AM 
>>  12:00PM 
>>   2:00PM 
>>   4:00PM 
>>   6:00PM 
>>   8:00PM 
>>
>> If there's any adjustments I would need to make to get this merged
>> into
>> master, let me know.
>>
>> Christopher Allan Webber  writes:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I get distracted parsing 24-hour-time into 12-hour AM/PM style
>>> time.  So
>>> I added support for AM/PM style time on the agenda timegrid.
>>>
>>> git clone git://dustycloud.org/org-mode -b ampm
>>>
>>> (Check out the "ampm" branch.)
>>>
>>> Then:
>>>
>>> #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp
>>> (setq org-agenda-timegrid-use-ampm t)
>>> #+END_SRC
>>>
>>> Then just reload the agenda and you're good!
>>>
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Re: [Orgmode] agenda restriction locks and searching all nodes quickly

[Carsten Dominik]

Hi SAmuel,

On Nov 6, 2010, at 12:47 AM, Samuel Wales wrote:

Having trouble with setting a restriction lock and also with  
searching quickly.


Can somebody kindly respond to the questions in the comments below?


(defun alpha-org-agenda-parent-subtree ()
 "Show agenda for all tasks in subtree above point.  This means
all /siblings/ of point and everything beneath them.

If the region is active, operate only on the region.

You can get a fast sorted view with this command.  In this
example, the agenda will show tasks under my subtree.

 * top level 1 -- not shown
   * my subtree -- shown
 * TODO a
 * some other headline | (<- point is here)
   * TODO [#A] b
 * top level 2 -- not shown

If you sort by priority, b will sort above a.

This allows you to organize nodes hierarchically instead of
keeping things at the same level merely to allow sorting.
"
 (interactive)
 (save-excursion
   ;;unwind-protect
   (if (not (org-up-heading-safe))
   (message "top level is nyi")
 ;;is this the right way to do it?  i tried
 ;;(let (org-agenda-overriding-restriction ...
 ;;
 ;;how do i make this work for the active region?
 (org-agenda-set-restriction-lock 'subtree)
 ;;is there a less kludgey way to specify all tasks in the  
restriction?

 ;;more importantly, what is the absolutely /fastest/ way?


I guess you could remember start and end of the region
and the implement a skipping function the checks if the
match is in the range.  If you are in a large file, this
would still be somewhat wasteful.

The fastest way for a region would be (untested)

(setq org-agenda-restrict t)
(setq org-agenda-overriding-restriction 'region)
(put 'org-agenda-files 'org-restrict
 (list (buffer-file-name (buffer-base-buffer
(move-marker org-agenda-restrict-begin (region-beginning))
(move-marker org-agenda-restrict-end (region-end))




 ;;
 ;;this seems to take forever even for a single node
 (org-search-view nil "{.}"


Try a tags/property match with "LEVEL>0", that
should be more efficient.





Thanks.

Samuel

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: An Org-mode clone for Vim

[Eric S Fraga]

Detlef Steuer  writes:

> On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 19:39:56 + (UTC)
> Herbert Sitz  wrote:
>
>> I've been working on a Vim plugin that is file-compatible with
>> Org-mode and that clones a good subset of features.

This is fantastic news!  Although I have been using emacs for 25+ years,
I have been using vi longer... and I still have hjkl burned into my
neural pathways as the correct way to move around in a file.  Although
I'm unlikely to move away from emacs for most work, being able to use vi
to manipulate my org files would be liberating and particularly useful
because:

> Furthermore it may be useful to use vim over ssh+screen for simple
> access to your orgmode files even if you use the full power at your
> desk.

I currently use ssh to connect to my office computer from my Android
phone and then start emacs within screen.  It would be faster and easier
to use vi, especially because the modal system is more suited for the
type of on-screen keyboard you get on these phones.

I look forward to being able to try this soon!

-- 
: Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D) in Emacs 23.2.1
: using Org-mode version 7.02trans (release_7.3.28.g8744.dirty)

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Re: [Orgmode] clock report shows link literally?

[Carsten Dominik]

On Nov 5, 2010, at 3:07 AM, Liang Wang wrote:


Hi,

After I upgrade orgmode to latest version, clock report shows link
text literally.

For example,

  [[file:/home/liang/gtd/todo.org::Task...

Unfortunately, in this way, I can not see what this task actually is.
I have to temporarily disable link in clock report.

Is this desired behavior or a bug?


I am always amazed when people are friendly enough to ask if such
an abvious bug might be meant as desired behavior.

I have fixed this.  Thanks!

- Carsten


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[Orgmode] Org Mode + Ditaa EPS + input charset

[Michel Briand]

Hello,
(I'm not subscribed to the list)

I've setup Org Mode to use the Ditaa provided by Mikael Brännström.

In orgmode/contrib/scripts I've done:
$ mv ditaa.jar ditaa.jar.dist
$ cp /DitaaEps.jar ditaa.jar
$ cp /ditaa0_6b.jar .

Launched a new Org Mode export. It worked nicely.

Now I'm adding text in iso-8859-15 into some boxes of the ditaa block.
(My document is in this charset)

Apparently this could come from:

- Org Mode sending malformed text to ditaa eps

- ditaa eps does not handle correctly those charset

Anyone has an idea ? A solution ?

By the way ditaa provided by Org Mode (git clone / git co release_7.3)
is working nicely with iso-8859-15 characters !


Best regards,
  Michel

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[Orgmode] Re: Org Mode + Ditaa EPS + input charset

[Mikael Brännström]

Hi Michel,

Currently DitaaEps uses the default charset. You can override this by
adding the following java option:

java -Dfile.encoding=ISO-8859-15 ...

Actually the DitaaEps is simply "plain Ditaa" plus an implementation
of the Java Graphics2D that outputs EPS data instead of raster data.
Thus it is simple to upgrade the ditaa addons to the new version of
ditaa, or simply include it into standard ditaa.

Regards
Mikael Brännström


2010/11/6 Michel Briand :
> Hello,
> (I'm not subscribed to the list)
>
> I've setup Org Mode to use the Ditaa provided by Mikael Brännström.
>
> In orgmode/contrib/scripts I've done:
> $ mv ditaa.jar ditaa.jar.dist
> $ cp /DitaaEps.jar ditaa.jar
> $ cp /ditaa0_6b.jar .
>
> Launched a new Org Mode export. It worked nicely.
>
> Now I'm adding text in iso-8859-15 into some boxes of the ditaa block.
> (My document is in this charset)
>
> Apparently this could come from:
>
> - Org Mode sending malformed text to ditaa eps
>
> - ditaa eps does not handle correctly those charset
>
> Anyone has an idea ? A solution ?
>
> By the way ditaa provided by Org Mode (git clone / git co release_7.3)
> is working nicely with iso-8859-15 characters !
>
>
> Best regards,
>  Michel
>

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Clock report (R from the agenda)

[Carsten Dominik]

On Nov 4, 2010, at 11:39 AM, Sébastien Vauban wrote:


Hi Carsten,

Carsten Dominik wrote:

you should now be able to use `C-u R' to achieve this.


OK.


The lighter in the mode line will then switch from "Clock" to  
"Clock{}",


A detail: I'd eventually would have written "Clock/" to remind the  
"/" used

for applying the filters.


I did use {} because the current filter is actually listed in the mode  
line, surrounded by {}.




Another: could we append, in the modeline, the tags (or their  
abbrev, such as

"w" for "work") used in the filtered view?


The filter *is* shown in the mode line.  Just not as part of the Clock  
lighter.






and the current tags filtering should apply to the clock table in the
agenda.

Please test this and report back.


Only minor thing: while the logged lines are correctly shown or made  
invisible
in the grid time, you need to refresh the table with "g" for it to  
display the

correct values.

Until that, what's above is not in sync' with what's in the table.  
Isn't there

a way to make this refresh happen automatically?


That would be possible.  However, the whole idea of filtering
is to be *very* fast, it works by hiding lines that are
already in the buffer.  Doing a refresh for
each change in filter would be time consuming.  So I'd say
having to refresh by hand if the clock is showing filtered
stuff is the smaller evil.



BTW,


: | File | L | Headline | Time|  |
: |--+---+--+-+--|
: |  |   | *Total time* | *10:15* |  |
: |--+---+--+-+--|
: | Clock-Report.org |   | *File time*  | *10:15* |  |
: | Clock-Report.org | 1 | Work | 8:09|  |
: | Clock-Report.org | 2 | Client A | | 3:23 |
: | Clock-Report.org | 2 | Client B | | 4:46 |
: | Clock-Report.org | 1 | Personal | 2:06|  |
: | Clock-Report.org | 2 | DONE Lunch with Mary | | 2:06 |


Nice new layout. Much clearer for the levels...


Yes, I think so to.  Try :compact t, that is also nice, I think.

Thanks!

- Carsten



| File | Headline | Time|  |
|--+--+-+--|
|  | ALL *Total time* | *10:15* |  |
|--+--+-+--|
| Clock-Report.org | *File time*  | *10:15* |  |
|  | Work | 8:09|  |
|  | \__ Client A | | 3:23 |
|  | \__ Client B | | 4:46 |
|  | Personal | 2:06|  |
|  | \__ DONE Lunch with Mary | | 2:06 |

Thanks *a lot* for your time!
 Seb

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Re: [Orgmode] Broken CUSTOMID links

[Carsten Dominik]

On Nov 5, 2010, at 6:53 PM, Jambunathan K wrote:



Note the 'H:1' in options line. Export this to HTML. Note that  
CUSTOMID

link is broken. A snippet of relevant HTML section is attached
below.

Change 'H:1' to 'H:3' note that there is no more brokenness.

Possible root cause: When headlines are turned to list 'extra-targets'
are not identified correctly.


That is correct - Org does not assign IDs or names to list items,
so it has no place to link to.  This could probably be fixed - anyone  
would

like to fix this?

- Carsten



(This bug is unrelated to any of the previous internal link bugs  
that I

have reported)

# Input file

#+OPTIONS:   H:1

* Links
** Targets

*** Fuzzy Target

*** Target with CUSTOMID
  :PROPERTIES:
  :CUSTOM_ID: aabbccddeeff
  :END:

*** Dedicated Target
#   <>

*** <<>>

** References

*** References to Fuzzy Target
  This is a link to [[Fuzzy Target]].

*** References to CUSTOMID links
  This link to  [[#aabbccddeeff][CUSTOMID Target]] is broken.

*** References to Dedicated Target
  There is a link to nodesc [[Dedicated Target]] here. There is a link
  to [[Dedicated%20Target][Jump to Dedicated Target]] here.

*** References to Radioed Links
  This section has references to Radioed Target. One more reference
  to Radioed Target.



#+begin_src html


  


Target with CUSTOMID

  




  
References to CUSTOMID links

This link to

  CUSTOMID Target

is broken.
  

#+end_src


Jambunathan K.

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Re: [Orgmode] [PATCH] AM/PM support on the agenda timegrid

[Carsten Dominik]

Hi Christopher,

can I convince you to use am and pm instead of AM and PM?  The  
capitals hurt my eyes :)


- Carsten

On Nov 6, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Christopher Allan Webber wrote:

Based on off-list contact, apparently at least one other person is  
using
this, so FYI I pushed another commit which resolves an issue where  
there

was no space between the time and the event.  That's fixed now, things
look correct now like:

Saturday6 November 2010
  8:00AM 
 ccommons:9:00AM-11:00AM Some weekend  
work  :work::

 10:00AM 
 12:00PM 
  2:00PM 
  4:00PM 
  6:00PM 
  8:00PM 

If there's any adjustments I would need to make to get this merged  
into

master, let me know.

Christopher Allan Webber  writes:


Hello all,

I get distracted parsing 24-hour-time into 12-hour AM/PM style  
time.  So

I added support for AM/PM style time on the agenda timegrid.

git clone git://dustycloud.org/org-mode -b ampm

(Check out the "ampm" branch.)

Then:

#+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp
(setq org-agenda-timegrid-use-ampm t)
#+END_SRC

Then just reload the agenda and you're good!


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Re: [Orgmode] Org-Babel - Clojure & Lazy Sequences Bug

[Eric Schulte]

Hi Rick,

I've noticed this as well.  I'm not the original author of ob-clojure.el
(Joel Boehland is), so I'm not sure how the clojure interaction
currently works, although I know it makes heavy usage of slime.  There
must be an existing mechanism used by slime to unroll these lazy
evaluations, for example in the repl (range 10) *is* expanded

user> (range 10)
(0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9)

I'm using clojure extensively in my studies so I have all the more
reason to try to figure this out.  I'll put this on my stack.

BTW: I've noticed that I am unable to get Clojure code blocks to play
nicely with existing slime sessions, say for example I have some large
piece of data in scope in a slime sessions and I'd like to access that
data from a clojure code block and dump some analysis to an Org-mode
document.  I have not yet found out how to make this work.  If you have,
I'd love to hear how, otherwise I'll look into this as well.

Best -- Eric

Having just looked at this quickly, the following function over-defines
`org-babel-execute:clojure' s.t.  the body of the code block is sent to
the superior list in the same manner as when calling `slime-eval-defun'
from within a .clj file.  While this doesn't handle starting up clojure
instances or differentiate between session and external evaluation it
should fix the issues mentioned above and could be the beginning of a
permanent solution.

#+begin_src emacs-lisp
  (defun org-babel-execute:clojure (body params)
(with-temp-buffer
  (insert body)
  (read
   (slime-eval
`(swank:interactive-eval-region 
  ,(buffer-substring-no-properties (point-min) (point-max)))
#+end_src

which then results in

#+begin_src clojure
  (map (fn [el] (list el (* el el))) (range 10))
#+end_src

evaluating to

#+results:
| 0 |  0 |
| 1 |  1 |
| 2 |  4 |
| 3 |  9 |
| 4 | 16 |
| 5 | 25 |
| 6 | 36 |
| 7 | 49 |
| 8 | 64 |
| 9 | 81 |

Rick Moynihan  writes:

> I have the following org file:
>
> #+BEGIN_SRC clojure
> (range 10)
> #+END_SRC
>
> #+results:
> : clojure.lang.lazy...@f35bf8c6
>
> Where as I would expect to see the sequence.  Evaluating the code
> inside a doall doesn't seem to do anything either:
>
> #+BEGIN_SRC clojure
> (doall (range 10))
> #+END_SRC
>
> #+results:
> : clojure.lang.lazy...@f35bf8c6
>
> Is there any parameter I can pass to the block to get the code to
> execute in a doall and return the sequence values rather than the
> lazy-seq object itself?
>
> R.
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[Orgmode] Bug?: 7.02/7.3 - Unable to set `org-capture-templates' in a

[Anupam Sengupta]

Hi All,

I have been facing this problem since version 7.02/7.3.  I am using GNU
Emacs 23.2.50 on OSX.

I use a _separate_ file for saving the settings using the Custom
interface.  This includes all org-mode settings and templates, and have
been working well till 7.01h.

*However*, after upgrading to 7.02, I found that the capture templates
are *not* getting set from the custom-file, which does contain the
correct template (info "(Emacs) Saving Customizations").

The basic problem is that the `org-capture-templates' variable is set as
`nil' on load, and `describe-variable' returns a 'nil' as well.

On accessing the variable using `customize-variable', the custom
interface displays an empty value, and the message:

"Value Changed outside of Customize".

I have tested this behavior using org-7.02, using a bare-bone test setup
which just loads the org-mode, and an empty test.org file.  

The init.el is given below:

,
|  ;;; Define some variables for use later
|  (defvar my-emacs-dir  "~/.emacs.d/")
|  (defvar my-lisp-dir   (concat my-emacs-dir "elisp/"))
|  (defvar my-customizations-dir (concat my-emacs-dir "customizations/"))
|  (setq custom-file (concat my-customizations-dir "emacs-custom.el"))
|  (load custom-file)
| 
|  (message "Setting orgmode stuff")
|  (setq load-path
|  (cons (expand-file-name (concat my-lisp-dir "org-7.02/lisp")) 
load-path))
| 
|  (setq load-path
|  (cons (expand-file-name (concat my-lisp-dir 
"org-7.02/contrib/lisp")) load-path))
| 
|  (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.org$" . org-mode))
| 
|  (require 'org-install)
|  (setq org-default-notes-file "~/test.org")
| 
|  (define-key global-map "\C-ca"  'org-agenda)
|  (define-key global-map "\C-cc"  'org-capture)
`


The corresponding emacs-custom.el (comments elided) is:

,
|  (custom-set-variables
|   '(org-capture-templates (quote (("n" "Next Action" entry
|   (file+headline "~/org/test.org" "INBOX") "* TODO %^{Heading}")
`


As noted above, even though the `org-capture-templates' has been set
correctly in the emacs-custom.el, this setting is *not loaded* and the
variable remains `nil'.

If the variable is set in the init.el file *itself*, then it *does* get
loaded correctly.  E.g., in the init.el content, if the lines are
changed to:

,
|  (require 'org-install)
|  (setq org-default-notes-file "~/test.org")
|  
|(setq org-capture-templates 
|  (quote (("n" "Next Action" entry (file+headline
|  "~/org/test.org" "INBOX") "* TODO %^{Heading}"
`


Then `org-capture' is able to correctly access the templates.

I have currently reverted back to 7.01h, as I have quite a few
customized templates, and don't want to stop using the customization
mechanism to setup / modify the somewhat complex templates.

Any help is very much appreciated.  Prior to this, I did not quite
realize how addicted I have become to the remember/capture method!


Regards,
-- 
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Re: [Orgmode] [PATCH] AM/PM support on the agenda timegrid

[Christopher Allan Webber]

Based on off-list contact, apparently at least one other person is using
this, so FYI I pushed another commit which resolves an issue where there
was no space between the time and the event.  That's fixed now, things
look correct now like:

Saturday6 November 2010
   8:00AM 
  ccommons:9:00AM-11:00AM Some weekend work  :work::
  10:00AM 
  12:00PM 
   2:00PM 
   4:00PM 
   6:00PM 
   8:00PM 

If there's any adjustments I would need to make to get this merged into
master, let me know.

Christopher Allan Webber  writes:

> Hello all,
>
> I get distracted parsing 24-hour-time into 12-hour AM/PM style time.  So
> I added support for AM/PM style time on the agenda timegrid.
>
> git clone git://dustycloud.org/org-mode -b ampm
>
> (Check out the "ampm" branch.)
>
> Then:
>
> #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp
> (setq org-agenda-timegrid-use-ampm t)
> #+END_SRC
>
> Then just reload the agenda and you're good!
>
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[Orgmode] Searching the closest time-stamp and pose to its heading

[Kiwon Um]

Dear orgmode team and users,

I'm now writing a time journal function using org-mode. And I have a
question for this.

When there are many timestamps in buffer, how can I put my cursor on the
heading having the time-stamp closest to the current time or a given
time.

For instance, there are org contents as follows:

...
*** Item1
   CLOCK: [2010-11-06 Sat 16:45]--[2010-11-06 Sat 17:00] =>  15

*** Item2
   CLOCK: [2010-11-06 Sat 17:00]--[2010-11-06 Sat 17:15] =>  15

*** Item3
   CLOCK: [2010-11-06 Sat 17:15]--[2010-11-06 Sat 17:30] =>  15
...

When the current time is [2010-11-06 Sat 17:03], I want to write elisp
codes moving the cursor to the Item2 heading.

I would really appreciate it if you could give any codes or information
for this. Thanks.

Sincerely,
Kiwon Um

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[Orgmode] Re: COMMENTed Radio Targets: Any comments?

[Matt Lundin]

Hi Jambunathan,

Jambunathan K  writes:

>> For stable links to particular headlines, I would recommend CUSTOM_IDs
>> over radio targets. E.g.,
>
> I am raising these questions or bugs or even aberrations as a result of
> my work on OpenOffice. 
>
> IOW, I am not looking at 'using them as a feature' but to 'understand
> them as a feature' and 'cross-checking' my OpenOffice's exporter against
> the HTML exporter.
>
> So the question of swithching to custom-ids doesn't arise in my case. 
>

Thanks for clarifying. I misunderstood the context of the request. I
think it would by helpful to mention such context (i.e., work on the
OpenOffice exporter) in the original post.

FWIW, the following commenting syntax correctly inserts an invisible
target in the html:

--8<---cut here---start->8---
* Heading
# <<>>
** Subheading
atarget 
--8<---cut here---end--->8---

exports as...

--8<---cut here---start->8---

1 Heading 






1.1 Subheading 


atarget 

--8<---cut here---end--->8---

Using the COMMENT keyword, by contrast, creates an orphaned link, as you
note.

> I see two options (that I think are consistent):

> 1. In the Org file, references to 'Radioed Target' is still linkified
>and clicking on it takes me to the right heading (although it is
>COMMENTed out)
   
>The corresponding thing for the HTML exporter is to 'ignore' the
>COMMENT tag on the headline and (still) export it with refrences to
>that headline as internal links.

> 2. The exported HTML doesn't contain the radioed headline. So
>references to radioed text shouldn't be linkified.

I vote for #2. I expect org-export to clobber anything with a COMMENT
keyword. But if the radio target is clobbered, then words pointing to it
should not be "linkified." 

Note: I'm referring here only to automatic radio targets of the
<<>> variety. If the user explicitly inserts links such
as [[atarget]], they should remain even if the target does not exist.

Best,
Matt

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Re: [Orgmode] An Org-mode clone for Vim

[Jean-Marie Gaillourdet]

Hi Ryan, 

"A. Ryan Reynolds"  writes:

> onethingwell.org just finished a week's worth of coverage on vim
> outliners. I don't use vim, so I'm not particularly invested, but
> introducing another one to the vim people might be a hard sell; there
> already seem to be quite a number of options available on that
> platform. On the other hand, if you can replicate all of Org's
> features I've no doubt you'll succeed in winning them over! And in any
> case, doing something for fun is a reward by itself.

I've tried most vim outliners in spring. And I doubt it'll be a hard
sell. Most of them were dead or simply not comparable
to org's easy and intuitive way of outlining. 

For example, TVO -- The Vim Outliner [1] -- , which is most often referenced
as the standard and most powerfull vim outliner plugin, is basically
dead. Last release happened in 2006. 

Regards,
  Jean-Marie

[1] http://bike-nomad.com/vim/vimoutliner.html

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Re: [Orgmode] An Org-mode clone for Vim

[Jean-Marie Gaillourdet]

Hi, 

congratulation to such an excellent project!

Herbert Sitz  writes:

> I've been working on a Vim plugin that is file-compatible with Org-mode and 
> that
> clones a good subset of features.  It's gotten to the point where I'd like to
> put it up on Github and see if anyone wants to use it and/or help develop it
> with me.  So far I've implemented a good subset of Org's functionality and,
> though it has a few rough edges, right now it could be perfectly usable for
> certain people out there who prefer Vim as a text editor, but who have been
> drawn to Emacs' Org-mode because of its features.  My project isn't at the 
> point
> where it has all the features or the polish of Org-mode, but many Org-mode 
> users
> use only a small subset of Org.  For people who prefer Vim and have subsets
> coinciding with my project it could be an option.
>
> I've made a video showing what it looks like and demonstrating some of the 
> basic
> outlining stuff.  I just uploaded it to Vimeo, and it tells me it will be
> available for viewing in a couple hours (i.e., around 3:15pm PST today, Friday
> Nov. 5,2010).  When available it will be viewable at this link:
> http://vimeo.com/16543959
>
> For someone who asks, 'Why would you bother to do this for Vim when it's 
> already
> done in Emacs?", I would have these responses:
>
> 1.  A lot of people don't like Emacs.  It is of course an insanely powerful
> piece of software, but a lot of people can never get accustomed to the 
> chord-key
> command system, or if they do get semi-accustomed they don't like it or it
> causes them physical pain.
> 2.  Some people are of the opinion that, while Emacs is admittedly a great
> operating system/development environment, it lacks a decent text editor.  ;)
> 3.  Emacs and Vim (or Vim and Emacs) are king and queen atop the pile of text
> editors.  What one has the other should have to, to the extent possible.
> 4.  I consider myself a Vim person, but I moved to Org-mode and Emacs myself
> (made almost palatable to me by Viper and Vimpulse) because I wanted to be 
> able
> to publish outlines to PDF and HTML.  Vim has a couple decent outliners but
> nobody has bothered to create good export systems for quality output.  I had
> written some (non-publishing-related) extensions for one of the Vim outliners
> and I knew it wouldn't be that hard to write something in Vim that was
> file-compatible with Org-mode, which would then be able to publish to PDF and
> HTML simply by calling out to an Emacs server.  This was my original goal and
> it's done and works great.

I complete understand your point here, I did the tiniest possible bit of
org-mode emulation in vim, by my self. After more then 10 years of
emacs, I came to realize they beauty and efficiency of the modal input
model used by vim. Since then, I've tried to either make emacs behave
like vim or to make vim behave like emacs. My current approach is to use
emacs with viper+vimpulse+viper-in-more-modes+self_written adaptions and
there are still many things which require to type long chords of
shortcuts. 

I am looking forward to try your vim plugin, since I still use vim for
quick editing tasks.

> 5.  As I did some work I became more curious about all the task management and
> organization features in Org-mode, and how they might be implemented in Vim.  
> So
> I started coding up stuff for the various Org searches, agenda views, sparse
> trees, column views, date management, etc.  This is actually fun to do and Vim
> is well-suited for doing it.  So I've kept going.  I'm hoping someone else 
> might
> have an interest in doing this with me.
> 6. As I said in 5., developing this stuff is fun.
>
> That's about it.  If there's any interest I'll do more videos showing how 
> other
> Org-mode features have been implemented in the Vim plugin, and where they 
> stand
> right now in the Vim plugin compared to Org-mode.

I am definitly interested. Keep up the good work. 

Regards,
  Jean-Marie


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[Orgmode] Re: publishing a drawer

[Łukasz Stelmach]

Christian Moe  writes:

> On 11/3/10 12:48 PM, Łukasz Stelmach wrote:
>> Hello.
>>
>> Is it possible to publish drawer's content during export (both HTML and
>> LaTeX)? I am creating a presentation with S5 and I'd love to have
>> :LOGBOOK: (or :NOTES:) published as  (or
>> \note{} for Beamer).
>>
>
> The following ought to work, but doesn't for Latex. Code improvements
> welcome.
>
> * Set option to include drawers in export
>
> : #+OPTIONS: d:t
>
> For some reason, this doesn't work for me with Latex export. I've
> filed a bug report.
>
> * Customize drawer export
>
> Make org-export-format-drawer-function point to a custom function,
> e.g. like this for your exact case (improvements welcome):
>
> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
>   (defun my-org-export-format-drawer (name content backend)
[...]

Looks quite promising :-) I will surely try it. Thanks.

-- 
Miłego dnia,
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Re: [Orgmode] [Bug?] Mark subtrees and inline tasks

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Well, use this version instead.

It will avoid compilation problems.

> Sébastien Vauban writes:

>> To select this subtree, I use =C-c @=.

>> It does its job, except that it never selects the last line. OK;
>> just C-x C-x, add a line, and that's it. Feature? Bug?

> Feature. If you want to grab the last line too, use
> (org-end-of-subtree nil t)

>> Same problem, though more problematic IMHO, with the inline tasks.

>> *** Check how the selection works I'd expect the END
>> line to be selected as well. It's not. *** END

> Here is a suggestion of patch creating a new function
> org-mark-subtree (and not using the outline one).

> Tell me if it works for you.

Regards,

-- Nicolas

>From 8fcf73648f722e2aa8c539bdda433daab1edce6e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Nicolas Goaziou 
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 10:10:22 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] Handle inline tasks when marking a subtree

* org-inlinetask.el (org-inlinetask-goto-beginning): new function
* org-inlinetask.el (org-inlinetask-goto-end): new function
* org.el (org-mark-subtree): new command
* org.el (org-speed-commands-default, org-mode-map): make use of new command
---
 lisp/org-inlinetask.el |   24 
 lisp/org.el|   29 -
 2 files changed, 52 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)

diff --git a/lisp/org-inlinetask.el b/lisp/org-inlinetask.el
index c000999..fc0d932 100644
--- a/lisp/org-inlinetask.el
+++ b/lisp/org-inlinetask.el
@@ -147,6 +147,30 @@ If prefix arg NO-STATE is set, ignore 
`org-inlinetask-default-state'."
  (and (re-search-forward "^\\*+[ \t]+" nil t)
   (progn (beginning-of-line) (looking-at task-end-re)))
 
+(defun org-inlinetask-goto-beginning ()
+  "Go to the beginning of the inline task at point."
+  (end-of-line)
+  (re-search-backward (format "^\\*\\{%d,\\}" org-inlinetask-min-level) nil t)
+  (when (org-looking-at-p (format "^\\*\\{%d,\\} END" 
org-inlinetask-min-level))
+(re-search-backward
+ (format "^\\*\\{%d,\\}" org-inlinetask-min-level) nil t)))
+
+(defun org-inlinetask-goto-end ()
+  "Go to the end of the inline task at point."
+  (cond
+   ((org-looking-at-p (format "^\\*\\{%d,\\} END" org-inlinetask-min-level))
+(forward-line 1))
+   ((org-looking-at-p (format "^\\*\\{%d,\\} " org-inlinetask-min-level))
+(forward-line 1)
+(when (org-inlinetask-in-task-p)
+  (re-search-forward
+   (format "^\\*\\{%d,\\} END" org-inlinetask-min-level) nil t)
+  (forward-line 1)))
+   (t
+(re-search-forward
+ (format "^\\*\\{%d,\\} END" org-inlinetask-min-level) nil t)
+(forward-line 1
+
 (defvar htmlp)  ; dynamically scoped into the next function
 (defvar latexp) ; dynamically scoped into the next function
 (defun org-inlinetask-export-handler ()
diff --git a/lisp/org.el b/lisp/org.el
index 201dd87..515764a 100644
--- a/lisp/org.el
+++ b/lisp/org.el
@@ -3555,6 +3555,8 @@ Normal means no org-mode-specific context."
  "org-agenda" (&optional end))
 (declare-function org-inlinetask-remove-END-maybe "org-inlinetask" ())
 (declare-function org-inlinetask-in-task-p "org-inlinetask" ())
+(declare-function org-inlinetask-goto-beginning "org-inlinetask" ())
+(declare-function org-inlinetask-goto-end "org-inlinetask" ())
 (declare-function org-indent-mode "org-indent" (&optional arg))
 (declare-function parse-time-string "parse-time" (string))
 (declare-function org-attach-reveal "org-attach" (&optional if-exists))
@@ -16433,6 +16435,7 @@ BEG and END default to the buffer boundaries."
 (org-defkey org-mode-map "\C-c\C-xf"'org-footnote-action)
 (org-defkey org-mode-map "\C-c\C-x\C-mg"'org-mobile-pull)
 (org-defkey org-mode-map "\C-c\C-x\C-mp"'org-mobile-push)
+(org-defkey org-mode-map "\C-c@" 'org-mark-subtree)
 (org-defkey org-mode-map [?\C-c (control ?*)] 'org-list-make-subtree)
 ;;(org-defkey org-mode-map [?\C-c (control ?-)] 
'org-list-make-list-from-subtree)
 
@@ -16506,7 +16509,7 @@ BEG and END default to the buffer boundaries."
 ("^" . org-sort)
 ("w" . org-refile)
 ("a" . org-archive-subtree-default-with-confirmation)
-("." . outline-mark-subtree)
+("." . org-mark-subtree)
 ("Clock Commands")
 ("I" . org-clock-in)
 ("O" . org-clock-out)
@@ -18653,6 +18656,30 @@ which make use of the date at the cursor."
   (message
"Entry marked for action; press `k' at desired date in agenda or calendar"))
 
+(defun org-mark-subtree ()
+  "Mark the current subtree.
+This puts point at the start of the current subtree, and mark at the end.
+
+If point is in an inline task, mark that task instead."
+  (interactive)
+  (let ((inline-task-p
+(and (featurep 'org-inlinetask)
+ (org-inlinetask-in-task-p)))
+   (beg))
+;; Get beginning of subtree
+(cond
+ (inline-task-p (org-inlinetask-goto-beginning))
+ ((org-at-heading-p) (beginning-of-line))
+ (t (outline-previous-visible-heading 1)))
+(setq beg (point))
+

[Orgmode] Re: An Org-mode clone for Vim

[Detlef Steuer]

On Fri, 5 Nov 2010 19:39:56 + (UTC)
Herbert Sitz  wrote:

> I've been working on a Vim plugin that is file-compatible with Org-mode and 
> that
> clones a good subset of features.  It's gotten to the point where I'd like to
> put it up on Github and see if anyone wants to use it and/or help develop it
> with me.  So far I've implemented a good subset of Org's functionality and,
> though it has a few rough edges, right now it could be perfectly usable for
> certain people out there who prefer Vim as a text editor, but who have been
> drawn to Emacs' Org-mode because of its features.  My project isn't at the 
> point
> where it has all the features or the polish of Org-mode, but many Org-mode 
> users
> use only a small subset of Org.  For people who prefer Vim and have subsets
> coinciding with my project it could be an option.
> 
> I've made a video showing what it looks like and demonstrating some of the 
> basic
> outlining stuff.  I just uploaded it to Vimeo, and it tells me it will be
> available for viewing in a couple hours (i.e., around 3:15pm PST today, Friday
> Nov. 5,2010).  When available it will be viewable at this link:
> http://vimeo.com/16543959
> 

Wow! 

There is another reason, why this can be very, very useful: If you work in a 
team it becomes very hard to introduce a file format which more or less 
requires emacs. I.e. I have a colleague who has vim hard coded into his brain. 
He never ever would think about starting to use emacs. Now, may be, I can 
convince him to collaborate in orgmode structured files. That alone is worth 
the effort.  

Furthermore it may be useful to use vim over ssh+screen for simple access to 
your orgmode files even if you use the full power at your desk.

Was there a link somewhere to try it out? Would be nice!

Did you reach a point where it interacts with vim's R plugin? That's quite 
usabel nowadays.

Thank you for sharing!

Detlef

> For someone who asks, 'Why would you bother to do this for Vim when it's 
> already
> done in Emacs?", I would have these responses:
> 
> 1.  A lot of people don't like Emacs.  It is of course an insanely powerful
> piece of software, but a lot of people can never get accustomed to the 
> chord-key
> command system, or if they do get semi-accustomed they don't like it or it
> causes them physical pain.
> 2.  Some people are of the opinion that, while Emacs is admittedly a great
> operating system/development environment, it lacks a decent text editor.  ;)
> 3.  Emacs and Vim (or Vim and Emacs) are king and queen atop the pile of text
> editors.  What one has the other should have to, to the extent possible.
> 4.  I consider myself a Vim person, but I moved to Org-mode and Emacs myself
> (made almost palatable to me by Viper and Vimpulse) because I wanted to be 
> able
> to publish outlines to PDF and HTML.  Vim has a couple decent outliners but
> nobody has bothered to create good export systems for quality output.  I had
> written some (non-publishing-related) extensions for one of the Vim outliners
> and I knew it wouldn't be that hard to write something in Vim that was
> file-compatible with Org-mode, which would then be able to publish to PDF and
> HTML simply by calling out to an Emacs server.  This was my original goal and
> it's done and works great.
> 5.  As I did some work I became more curious about all the task management and
> organization features in Org-mode, and how they might be implemented in Vim.  
> So
> I started coding up stuff for the various Org searches, agenda views, sparse
> trees, column views, date management, etc.  This is actually fun to do and Vim
> is well-suited for doing it.  So I've kept going.  I'm hoping someone else 
> might
> have an interest in doing this with me.
> 6. As I said in 5., developing this stuff is fun.
> 
> That's about it.  If there's any interest I'll do more videos showing how 
> other
> Org-mode features have been implemented in the Vim plugin, and where they 
> stand
> right now in the Vim plugin compared to Org-mode.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Herb Sitz
> Seattle, WA 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Orgmode] [Bug?] Mark subtrees and inline tasks

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

> Sébastien Vauban writes:

> To select this subtree, I use =C-c @=.

> It does its job, except that it never selects the last line. OK;
> just C-x C-x, add a line, and that's it. Feature? Bug?

Feature. If you want to grab the last line too, use
(org-end-of-subtree nil t)

> Same problem, though more problematic IMHO, with the inline tasks.

> *** Check how the selection works 
> I'd expect the END line to be selected as well. It's not. 
> *** END

Here is a suggestion of patch creating a new function org-mark-subtree
(and not using the outline one).

Tell me if it works for you.

Regards,

-- Nicolas

>From b2267d2e4ef40a0d0d6e8c9a789e835b5cde6036 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Nicolas Goaziou 
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 10:10:22 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] Handle inline tasks when marking a subtree

* org-inlinetask.el (org-inlinetask-goto-beginning): new function
* org-inlinetask.el (org-inlinetask-goto-end): new function
* org.el (org-mark-subtree): new command
* org.el (org-speed-commands-default, org-mode-map): make use of new command
---
 lisp/org-inlinetask.el |   24 
 lisp/org.el|   25 -
 2 files changed, 48 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)

diff --git a/lisp/org-inlinetask.el b/lisp/org-inlinetask.el
index c000999..fc0d932 100644
--- a/lisp/org-inlinetask.el
+++ b/lisp/org-inlinetask.el
@@ -147,6 +147,30 @@ If prefix arg NO-STATE is set, ignore 
`org-inlinetask-default-state'."
  (and (re-search-forward "^\\*+[ \t]+" nil t)
   (progn (beginning-of-line) (looking-at task-end-re)))
 
+(defun org-inlinetask-goto-beginning ()
+  "Go to the beginning of the inline task at point."
+  (end-of-line)
+  (re-search-backward (format "^\\*\\{%d,\\}" org-inlinetask-min-level) nil t)
+  (when (org-looking-at-p (format "^\\*\\{%d,\\} END" 
org-inlinetask-min-level))
+(re-search-backward
+ (format "^\\*\\{%d,\\}" org-inlinetask-min-level) nil t)))
+
+(defun org-inlinetask-goto-end ()
+  "Go to the end of the inline task at point."
+  (cond
+   ((org-looking-at-p (format "^\\*\\{%d,\\} END" org-inlinetask-min-level))
+(forward-line 1))
+   ((org-looking-at-p (format "^\\*\\{%d,\\} " org-inlinetask-min-level))
+(forward-line 1)
+(when (org-inlinetask-in-task-p)
+  (re-search-forward
+   (format "^\\*\\{%d,\\} END" org-inlinetask-min-level) nil t)
+  (forward-line 1)))
+   (t
+(re-search-forward
+ (format "^\\*\\{%d,\\} END" org-inlinetask-min-level) nil t)
+(forward-line 1
+
 (defvar htmlp)  ; dynamically scoped into the next function
 (defvar latexp) ; dynamically scoped into the next function
 (defun org-inlinetask-export-handler ()
diff --git a/lisp/org.el b/lisp/org.el
index 201dd87..905fabc 100644
--- a/lisp/org.el
+++ b/lisp/org.el
@@ -16433,6 +16433,7 @@ BEG and END default to the buffer boundaries."
 (org-defkey org-mode-map "\C-c\C-xf"'org-footnote-action)
 (org-defkey org-mode-map "\C-c\C-x\C-mg"'org-mobile-pull)
 (org-defkey org-mode-map "\C-c\C-x\C-mp"'org-mobile-push)
+(org-defkey org-mode-map "\C-c@" 'org-mark-subtree)
 (org-defkey org-mode-map [?\C-c (control ?*)] 'org-list-make-subtree)
 ;;(org-defkey org-mode-map [?\C-c (control ?-)] 
'org-list-make-list-from-subtree)
 
@@ -16506,7 +16507,7 @@ BEG and END default to the buffer boundaries."
 ("^" . org-sort)
 ("w" . org-refile)
 ("a" . org-archive-subtree-default-with-confirmation)
-("." . outline-mark-subtree)
+("." . org-mark-subtree)
 ("Clock Commands")
 ("I" . org-clock-in)
 ("O" . org-clock-out)
@@ -18653,6 +18654,28 @@ which make use of the date at the cursor."
   (message
"Entry marked for action; press `k' at desired date in agenda or calendar"))
 
+(defun org-mark-subtree ()
+  "Mark the current subtree.
+This puts point at the start of the current subtree, and mark at the end.
+
+If point is in an inline task, mark that task instead."
+  (interactive)
+  (let ((inline-task-p
+(and (featurep 'org-inlinetask)
+ (org-inlinetask-in-task-p)))
+   (beg))
+(cond
+ (inline-task-p (org-inlinetask-goto-beginning))
+ ((org-at-heading-p) (beginning-of-line))
+  ;; else go back to previous heading
+ (t (outline-previous-visible-heading 1)))
+(setq beg (point))
+(ifinline-task-p
+   (org-inlinetask-goto-end)
+  (org-end-of-subtree))
+(push-mark (point) nil t)
+(goto-char beg)))
+
 ;;; Paragraph filling stuff.
 ;; We want this to be just right, so use the full arsenal.
 
-- 
1.7.3.2

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[Orgmode] Re: ELPA + gnuwin32 tar (Issues, Help with packaging)

[Jambunathan K]

For the sake of record, file attributes of ELPA tar as is distributed
now:

,
| 
| bash-3.2$ tar tvf org-20101101.tar  | head
| drwxr-xr-x cdominik/pg1095168 0 2010-11-01 12:30 org-20101101/
| -rw-r--r-- cdominik/pg1095168 17889 2010-11-01 12:30 org-20101101/ob-tangle.el
| -rw-r--r-- cdominik/pg1095168 45603 2010-11-01 12:30 
org-20101101/org-remember.el
| -rw-r--r-- cdominik/pg1095168  8294 2010-11-01 12:30 
org-20101101/org-bibtex.el
| -rw-r--r-- cdominik/pg1095168  1417 2010-11-01 12:30 org-20101101/ob-matlab.el
| 
`

Jambunathan K.

>>> Thanks for trying out ELPA.
>
>>> May I ask you what version of Emacs you use and what OS you run on?
>> Sorry I shuld have mentioned that. It's GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1
>> (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7600) of 2010-10-18 on windows 7 Home Premium
>>>
>>> There is a comment in the package manager that there is a dependency on
>>> GNU tar. May be the tar binary that you are running is not "GNU tar
>>> compatible"
>> I use the one from gnuwin32. It says tar (GNU tar) 1.22.
>
> On my own machine I have issues while using gnuwin32 tar for
> extraction. I encounter *no* errors while using Cygwin tar (See the
> enclosed logs down below)
>
> While running the following command:
> - tar -xOf org-20101101.tar org-20101101/org-pkg.el
>
> the error reporter in my setup is:
> , [error with gnuwin32 tar on my machine]
> | "tar: Header contains "\200\000\000\000\000'\347\033" where octal uid_t
> | value expected"
> `
>
> while the error encountered in your setup is:
> , [error with gnuwin32 as reported by you]
> | "tar: Archive value 297315 is out of gid_t range 0..65535"
> `
>
> The thing that seems common in both these errors is that it relates to
> the username and groupnames (uid_t and gid_t). This has something to do
> with how tar archives are created on build machine.
>
> I don't have much experience with packaging. I am dumping my analysis
> hoping that someone would offer a quick fix for the problem.
>
> For the sake of reference, here is how the elpa archives are built.
>
> ,
> | pkg:
> | [...]
> | rm -rf org-$(PKG_TAG) org-$(PKG_TAG).tar
> | $(MKDIR) org-$(PKG_TAG)
> | cp -r $(PKG_FILES) org-$(PKG_TAG)
> | echo "(define-package \"org\" \"$(PKG_TAG)\" \"$(PKG_DOC)\" 
> $(PKG_REQ))" > org-$(PKG_TAG)/org-pkg.el
> | tar cf org-$(PKG_TAG).tar org-$(PKG_TAG) --remove-files
> `
>
>
> , [Using GnuWin32 tar is problematic]
> | C:\Program Files\GnuWin32\bin>tar --version
> | tar (GNU tar) 1.13
> | 
> | Copyright (C) 1988, 92,93,94,95,96,97,98, 1999 Free Software Foundation, 
> Inc.
> | This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
> | warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
> | 
> | Written by John Gilmore and Jay Fenlason.
> | 
> | C:\Program Files\GnuWin32\bin>tar -xOf org-20101101.tar
> | org-20101101/org-pkg.el 
> | 
> | tar: Header contains "\200\000\000\000\000'\347\033" where octal uid_t
> | value expected (define-package "org" "20101101" "Outline-based notes
> | management and organizer" nil) tar: Error exit delayed from previous
> | errors
> `
>
> , [Using Cygwin tar is smooth]
> | 
> | bash-3.2$ tar --version
> | tar (GNU tar) 1.23
> | Packaged by Cygwin (1.23-1)
> | Copyright (C) 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> | License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later 
> .
> | This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
> | There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
> | 
> | Written by John Gilmore and Jay Fenlason.
> | 
> | bash-3.2$ tar -xOf org-20101101.tar org-20101101/org-pkg.el
> | 
> | (define-package "org" "20101101" "Outline-based notes management and
> | organizer" nil)
> | 
> `
>
>
>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Can't read whole string")
>>   signal(error ("Can't read whole string"))
>>   error("Can't read whole string")
>>   package-read-from-string("tar: Archive value 297315 is out of gid_t range 
>> 0..65535\n(define-package \"org\" \"20101101\" \"Outline-based notes 
>> management and organizer\" nil)\ntar: Exiting with failure status due to 
>> previous errors\n")
>>   (progn (setq default-directory "~/tmp/") (package-read-from-string 
>> (shell-command-to-string (concat "tar -xOf org-20101101.tar 
>> org-20101101/org-pkg.el"
>>   eval((progn (setq default-directory "~/tmp/") (package-read-from-string 
>> (shell-command-to-string (concat "tar -xOf org-20101101.tar 
>> org-20101101/org-pkg.el")
>>   eval-last-sexp-1(nil)
>>   eval-last-sexp(nil)
>
> Jambunthan K.
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[Orgmode] ELPA + gnuwin32 tar (Issues, Help with packaging)

[Jambunathan K]

>> Thanks for trying out ELPA.

>> May I ask you what version of Emacs you use and what OS you run on?
> Sorry I shuld have mentioned that. It's GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1
> (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7600) of 2010-10-18 on windows 7 Home Premium
>>
>> There is a comment in the package manager that there is a dependency on
>> GNU tar. May be the tar binary that you are running is not "GNU tar
>> compatible"
> I use the one from gnuwin32. It says tar (GNU tar) 1.22.

On my own machine I have issues while using gnuwin32 tar for
extraction. I encounter *no* errors while using Cygwin tar (See the
enclosed logs down below)

While running the following command:
- tar -xOf org-20101101.tar org-20101101/org-pkg.el

the error reporter in my setup is:
, [error with gnuwin32 tar on my machine]
| "tar: Header contains "\200\000\000\000\000'\347\033" where octal uid_t
| value expected"
`

while the error encountered in your setup is:
, [error with gnuwin32 as reported by you]
| "tar: Archive value 297315 is out of gid_t range 0..65535"
`

The thing that seems common in both these errors is that it relates to
the username and groupnames (uid_t and gid_t). This has something to do
with how tar archives are created on build machine.

I don't have much experience with packaging. I am dumping my analysis
hoping that someone would offer a quick fix for the problem.

For the sake of reference, here is how the elpa archives are built.

,
| pkg:
| [...]
|   rm -rf org-$(PKG_TAG) org-$(PKG_TAG).tar
|   $(MKDIR) org-$(PKG_TAG)
|   cp -r $(PKG_FILES) org-$(PKG_TAG)
|   echo "(define-package \"org\" \"$(PKG_TAG)\" \"$(PKG_DOC)\" 
$(PKG_REQ))" > org-$(PKG_TAG)/org-pkg.el
|   tar cf org-$(PKG_TAG).tar org-$(PKG_TAG) --remove-files
`


, [Using GnuWin32 tar is problematic]
| C:\Program Files\GnuWin32\bin>tar --version
| tar (GNU tar) 1.13
| 
| Copyright (C) 1988, 92,93,94,95,96,97,98, 1999 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
| This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
| warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
| 
| Written by John Gilmore and Jay Fenlason.
| 
| C:\Program Files\GnuWin32\bin>tar -xOf org-20101101.tar
| org-20101101/org-pkg.el 
| 
| tar: Header contains "\200\000\000\000\000'\347\033" where octal uid_t
| value expected (define-package "org" "20101101" "Outline-based notes
| management and organizer" nil) tar: Error exit delayed from previous
| errors
`

, [Using Cygwin tar is smooth]
| 
| bash-3.2$ tar --version
| tar (GNU tar) 1.23
| Packaged by Cygwin (1.23-1)
| Copyright (C) 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
| License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later .
| This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
| There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
| 
| Written by John Gilmore and Jay Fenlason.
| 
| bash-3.2$ tar -xOf org-20101101.tar org-20101101/org-pkg.el
| 
| (define-package "org" "20101101" "Outline-based notes management and
| organizer" nil)
| 
`


> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Can't read whole string")
>   signal(error ("Can't read whole string"))
>   error("Can't read whole string")
>   package-read-from-string("tar: Archive value 297315 is out of gid_t range 
> 0..65535\n(define-package \"org\" \"20101101\" \"Outline-based notes 
> management and organizer\" nil)\ntar: Exiting with failure status due to 
> previous errors\n")
>   (progn (setq default-directory "~/tmp/") (package-read-from-string 
> (shell-command-to-string (concat "tar -xOf org-20101101.tar 
> org-20101101/org-pkg.el"
>   eval((progn (setq default-directory "~/tmp/") (package-read-from-string 
> (shell-command-to-string (concat "tar -xOf org-20101101.tar 
> org-20101101/org-pkg.el")
>   eval-last-sexp-1(nil)
>   eval-last-sexp(nil)

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[Orgmode] Check for broken links in org-mode?

[Magnus Nilsson]

Dear all,

Is there any nice way to check for broken links of different kinds in org
files?

For example by parsing the file and reporting the lines with broken links in
a separate buffer so they can be fixed one after another?  If not, I imagine
this is possible to implement (at least to some extent) as a lisp-function.
What do you all think? :)

My incentive for having this function is the following:
I have started using org mode to organize things at work.
One of the nice uses of org-mode is to keep link reminders together with my
notes, so that I quickly can find where information is located when I need
to retrieve it months/years later.
However, paths to where I keep files may be renamed as projects develop,
servers are changed, or as I "brainstorm" my way through different projects.
As my org-files can be quite large now, I have no way of remembering which
links I need to rename.
It would be great to (org-check-for-broken-links &optional org-files-list)
once in a while to keep links up-to-date.  This could make it easier for me
and perhaps the next person that sometime will take over my job.
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[Orgmode] Re: [Babel] Executing sh code within sessions

[Sébastien Vauban]

Hi Eric,

"Eric Schulte" wrote:
> Yes, I've noticed the shell session evaluation problems as well. I think one
> possible solution is for us to move from the current schema of echoing a
> babel-specific marker to indicate that evaluation has completed (which isn't
> working very well and is fairly ugly to boot) and move towards something
> more like what Dan has done with R, where the output is written to a file,
> and we check for that file to be created to signal the end of session based
> evaluation.

Will that handle ssh remote execution?  I still have no clue to do that via
the sh code blocks, but that's what I'm targetting to. Therefore, the need for
a session.:

1. code block to open the ssh connection
2. code block with some code
3. code block with other code
4. code block with logout


> This is certainly something that needs to be addressed, however I for one
> won't have any time over the next week (I'm attending a conference).
>
> Rest assured this issue is in our inbox. :)

OK, I stop pressuring you ;-)  No, really, I hope you wouldn't feel it like
that.

#+begin_src note
Anyway, next week, I won't have much time either: all the free time will go
into demolishing (part of) my house, before big works scheduled (or
DEADLINEd?) in Feb...
#+end_src

Thanks a lot for your continuous support.

Best regards,
  Seb

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