Re: [O] [PATCH] Add catch-up all LaTeX errors

[Charles Millar]

Nicolas Goaziou wrote:



Hello,


Nicholas and Francesco,


Francesco Pizzolante
fpz-djc/ipccudyqhejpep6iedvlejwur...@public.gmane.org writes:


The issue is the fact that, when exporting to PDF, in some cases, Org tells
that the export has been done successfully while the PDF file has not been
produced!

As an example, if you open the target PDF file with Adobe Reader and, in the
meantime, you export your Org file again to PDF, you'll see that Org will tell
you it's OK (Process Completed) while, if you look at the *Org PDF LaTeX
Output* buffer, you'll see an error such as:

! I can't write on file `toto.pdf'.
[...]

The problem comes from the fact that Org just checks for a couple of error
messages (defined in org-latex-known-errors) and report it's OK if it doesn't
find those messages:


Errors are not related to your problem. Actually, ox-latex.el uses
a rather weak check to know if process was successful or not:

   (if (not (file-exists-p pdffile))
   (error (concat (format PDF file %s wasn't produced pdffile)
  (when errors (concat :  errors
 ...
 (message (concat Process completed
  (if (not errors) . (concat  with errors:  errors)


First, I have subsequent messages in this thread and the discussion.

Should Nick's observation, that


IOW, it cannot tell the difference between a successful export and an
export failure with an already existing PDF



also include the qualification that the existing PDF file is also opened 
at the time of the second export? I base this on Francesco's example 
above and the following.


I usually export a subtree to LaTeX as PDF file and open. If I make 
small corrections to the subtree and export again, AND forget to close 
the PDF file that is already opened from the earlier export, Org reports 
a successful export; however, the revised exported PDF does not exist. 
(Also I use EXPORT_FILE_NAME: in PROPERTIES as the top of the subtree.)


If I remember to close the first exported PDF, the revised subtree 
exports OK.


I'm just curious, does the problem exist iff the pdf, that is to be 
replaced, is opened?


Charlie Millar

Re: [O] Agenda view in Fortnight mode

[Charles Millar]

Dave,

J. David Boyd wrote:


I've searched the docs, and looked through my .emacs and custom.el files, but
I don't see anywhere that lets me set the default view for the Agenda.

I would like it to come up in Fortnight mode as a default.  Is this possible?



I can't recall if there is specific fortnight span. I use

(setq org-agenda-span 14)

Charlie Millar

Re: [O] Contacts/Resources/People

[Charles Millar]

A discussion about contacts, etc. from a couple of years ago might be 
useful.


http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/57972

Charlie Millar

Re: [O] Update of git repo does not work? Still?

[Charles Millar]

Suvayu Ali wrote:

On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 01:53:01PM +0200, Rainer M Krug wrote:

Is there a problem with git? I can't update via git:

,
| $ git remote -v
| origingit://orgmode.org/org-mode.git (fetch)
| origingit://orgmode.org/org-mode.git (push)
| $ git pull
| fatal: read error: Connection reset by peer
| $ make update
| rm -f
| git checkout
| M etc/R/org_functions.R
| M lisp/ob-R.el
| git remote update
| Fetching origin
| fatal: read error: Connection reset by peer
| error: Could not fetch origin
| make: *** [up0] Error 1
`


I can confirm this.



I just tried (2014-05-14) to update and am still receiving an error message.

rm -f
git checkout
git remote update
Fetching origin
fatal: read error: Connection reset by peer
error: Could not fetch origin
mk/targets.mk:111: recipe for target 'up0' failed
make: *** [up0] Error 1

Org-mode version 8.2.6 (release_8.2.6-959-g08e259 @ 
c:/cygwin/home/owner/.elisp/org-mode/lisp/)


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[O] Possible bug - shifting headline - hashmark and what follows is considered part of headline that is shifted

[Charles Millar]

If I attempt to move headline 2b above 2a (M-up)

* 1
** 2a
** 2b

#  LocalWords:   

the result is

* 1
** 2b

#  LocalWords:   Y
** 2a


The number of lines between ** 2b and # LocalWords makes no difference 
and the headline level makes no difference. Location in the file makes 
no difference.

Flyspell-mode on


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Windows Vista SP2

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Re: [O] Possible bug - shifting headline - hashmark and what follows is considered part of headline that is shifted

[Charles Millar]

Hi Bastien,
Bastien wrote:

Hi Charles,

Charles Millar mill...@verizon.net writes:


If I attempt to move headline 2b above 2a (M-up)

* 1
** 2a
** 2b

#  LocalWords:   

the result is

* 1
** 2b

#  LocalWords:   Y
** 2a


Yes, #  LocalWords:   Y is part of the ** 2b headline.

Should it be as such, since # LocalWords since it is associated with 
ispell/flyspell and really has nothing to do with headline ** 2b?


Of course what I neglected to mention was that I would expect, which 
would be


* 1
** 2b
** 2a

#  LocalWords:   Y

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Re: [O] Possible bug - shifting headline - hashmark and what follows is considered part of headline that is shifted

[Charles Millar]

Hi, again, Bastien,
Bastien wrote:

Hi Charles,

Charles Millar mill...@verizon.net writes:


If I attempt to move headline 2b above 2a (M-up)

* 1
** 2a
** 2b

#  LocalWords:   

the result is

* 1
** 2b

#  LocalWords:   Y
** 2a


Yes, #  LocalWords:   Y is part of the ** 2b headline.



I now realize that since # LocalWords is considered part of a previous 
headline, any refile to a file that contains # LocalWords (or possibly 
any similar special construct) is placed after # LocalWords.


I would expect that the refile, at the very least, would be placed 
between the last headline and # LocalWords.


Possibly this situation could cause errors would be in exporting.

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Re: [O] Possible bug - shifting headline - hashmark and what follows is considered part of headline that is shifted

[Charles Millar]

Bastien and all,

Bastien wrote:

Hi Charles,

There will be no problem with comments at export time since comments
are not exported.


Thanks for the pointer concerning that # is comment in all exporting 
situations.




The way it works now is deeply into the ADN of Org, *everything*
within a subtree moves with this subtree, and nothing is *not* part
of a subtree (except text before the first headline.)



I am only now teaching myself emacs lisp and common lisp, mostly so I 
can at least try to understand the code. Based on Brian van den Broeck's 
message and my observation following his message, is it possible, 
actually is it worth the time and effort, for Org Mode only, to make # 
LocalWords: into a #+ LocalWords: into a top level buffer setting, 
and furthermore any additions would be placed into the top level setting 
and not at the end of the buffer?


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Re: [O] Possible bug - shifting headline - hashmark and what follows is considered part of headline that is shifted

[Charles Millar]

Bastien wrote:

Charles Millar mill...@verizon.net writes:


I am only now teaching myself emacs lisp and common lisp, mostly so I
can at least try to understand the code. Based on Brian van den
Broeck's message and my observation following his message, is it
possible, actually is it worth the time and effort, for Org Mode only,
to make # LocalWords: into a #+ LocalWords: into a top level
buffer setting, and furthermore any additions would be placed into the
top level setting and not at the end of the buffer?


Perhaps -- I don't know what LocalWords is supposed to do.
I'd say: go ahead and experiment, and tell us if it's work?



OK I'll try.

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Re: [O] Possible bug - shifting headline - hashmark and what follows is considered part of headline that is shifted

[Charles Millar]

Hi Sebastien, Bastien and all,

Bastien wrote:



Sebastien Vauban sva-news-D0wtAvR13HarG/idocf...@public.gmane.org
writes:


The syntax is LocalWords: prefixed by the current comment prefix.
Hence, I don't really understand why we would want to transform it in
#+ LocalWords:.

Yes. Last evening I realized that changing # LocalWords: to
#+ LocalWords: was a terrible idea since it would be of no use for ispell.



[snip] Putting this in a separate configuration section at the end of
the file is probably the way to go.



However, I thought I would try to place # LocalWords: at the top of a 
file between any #+ KEYWORDS: and the first * headline. That way it does 
not become part of a tree/subtree.


Is this OK?

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Re: [O] M-RET does not work as described in the manual

[Charles Millar]

Kevin Van Horn wrote:

Thank you for your help -- I have been beating my head against this for quite 
some time. Putting the cursor at the beginning of the line does in fact work.

I'm going to argue that there is still a problem here, though. Here's what I 
read at http://orgmode.org/manual/Structure-editing.html:

If the command is used at the beginning of a headline, the new headline is created 
before the current line.



IMHO the definition of a headline is clear in the manual

2.2 Headlines

Headlines define the structure of an outline tree. The headlines in Org 
*start* with one or more stars, on the left margin


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Re: [O] LaTex export questions

[Charles Millar]

Hi Steven,

Steven Arntson wrote:

Hi, I'm trying to export an org-mode doc to LaTex and subsequently to
PDF. This is a literary novel, written in prose. Right now when I run
the export command, the resulting file is incorrectly formatted for the
literary world, and I'm not sure how to change it. Is there a dialog or
customize menu that allows users to eliminate some default settings,
and add others?

Thank you!
Steven Arntson





In addition to Igor's suggestion you may want to check out

http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-latex-export.html

As mentioned in the title the following is for the earlier version of 
org-export; however I used the Thomas Dye's examples and made the 
appropriate changes for the new exporter in Org v8. Again, please note, 
that you will have to make adjustments.


Also, search this list; for instance Dr. Dye's posts concerning this 
subject.


Regards,
Charlie Millar

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[O] Literate Programming site

[Charles Millar]

Hi,

I was investigating literate programming, etc. and found the following site

http://literateprogramming.com/

There is no mention of emacs, much less org mode, as a tools. The evil 
one is!


GNU and open office are included as projects. I am not sure if any of 
the articles posted in this list are mentioned.


I thought about posting a comment to the above site; however I decided 
to post here for those who know more about these things to decide if 
something should be forwarded.


Charlie Millar

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Re: [O] [PATCH] docstring improvement of org-agenda-refile

[Charles Millar]

Daimrod wrote:

+When GOTO is '(14) or \\[universal-argument] \\[universal-argument], go to the 
location of the last refiled item.

^^
 '(16)


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Re: [O] [PATCH] docstring improvement of org-agenda-refile

[Charles Millar]

Charles Millar wrote:

Daimrod wrote:
+When GOTO is '(14) or \\[universal-argument] \\[universal-argument], 
go to the location of the last refiled item.

^^
 '(16)

Just opened my own reply and the '(16) may be misaligned.

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Re: [O] org-agenda-write to .org exports headings in reversed order?!

[Charles Millar]

Martin,





M wrote:

Hi,

I'm still experimenting with agenda export and I found that I can write an
agenda to an org-mode file by C-x C-w (org-agenda-write).

However, if I do that and select  filename.org as target,
I get all headings in the agenda, but the last one first and the first one
last.

Is there an option which can reverse the order to leave it as it is in the
agenda itself?
I know very little of the wonders of emacs lisp, but I wonder if 
org-agenda.el line 3362 is the reason for this.

 (mapcar (lambda (s) (org-paste-subtree 1 s)) (reverse content))

I was using org-agenda-write several months ago; I exported to a text 
file  and the result just as you report.


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Re: [O] new to exporting: how to export to a specific location (aromatically?)

[Charles Millar]

Hi Xebar

Xebar Saram wrote:

Hi list

im new (in general and to exporting in particular).

I have a few questions:

1.how does one specify a location where exported files go? can one set 
this per file or perhaps per export type etc?
Org manual section 12.3 at the end EXPORT_FILE_NAME  for subtrees; IUC 
this cannot be applied to a buffer -


footnote 133 There is no buffer-wide equivalent for this property. The 
file name in this case is derived from the file associated to the 
buffer, if possible, or asked to the user otherwise.


Like you I am also answers to the other two questions.

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[O] LATEX_HEADER export problem

[Charles Millar]

Hi,

I have the following in a file that I export to LaTeX

#+LATEX_CLASS: mysetup
#+LATEX_HEADER: \newcommand{\RATE}{65.00}

mysetup class

(add-to-list 'org-latex-classes
 '(mysetup
\\documentclass[11pt,letterpaper,oneside]{scrartcl}
\\usepackage{verbatim}
% \\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
% \\usepackage{charter,parskip,setspace,layout} commented out for Komascript
\\usepackage{charter,setspace,layout}
\\usepackage{array,graphicx}
\\usepackage{tabularx,tabulary}
\\usepackage{longtable}
\\usepackage{numprint}
\\npstyleenglish
\\usepackage[at]{easylist}
\\usepackage{csquotes}
%\\usepackage[letterpaper,margin=1.00in]{geometry}
\\usepackage[letterpaper,left=1.00in,right=1.00in,top=1.00in,bottom=0.50in]{geometry}
% \\usepackage[top=1.0in,bottom=0.4in,left=1.2in,nohead]{geometry}
%\\pagestyle{empty}
\\pagenumbering{arabic}
%\\newcommand\\foo{bar}
   [NO-DEFAULT-PACKAGES]
   [NO-PACKAGES]
   [EXTRA]
(\\section{%s} . \\section*{%s})
 (\\subsection{%s} . \\subsection*{%s})
 (\\subsubsection{%s} . \\subsubsection*{%s})
 (\\paragraph{%s} . \\paragraph*{%s})
 (\\subparagraph{%s} . \\subparagraph*{%s})))

When I export the pdf is generated, however with an error; the following 
output to the *.tex results


ss[11pt,letterpaper,oneside]{scrartcl}

\usepackage{verbatim}

% \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}

% \usepackage{charter,parskip,setspace,layout}

\usepackage{charter,setspace,layout}

\usepackage{array,graphicx}

\usepackage{tabularx,tabulary}

\usepackage{longtable}

\usepackage{numprint}

\npstyleenglish

\usepackage[at]{easylist}

\usepackage{csquotes}

%\usepackage[letterpaper,margin=1.00in]{geometry}

\usepackage[letterpaper,left=1.00in,right=1.00in,top=1.00in,bottom=0.50in]{geometry}

% \usepackage[top=1.0in,bottom=0.4in,left=1.2in,nohead]{geometry}

%\pagestyle{empty}

\pagenumbering{arabic}

%\newcommand\foo{bar}

\newcommand{\RATE}{65.00}

\newcommand{\RATE}{65.00}

\newcommand{\RATE}{65.00}

\date{}


Note - the triple |newcommand{\RATE}{65.00} is present 
whether\newcommand\foo{bar} is commented or uncommented in mysetup



When *.tex is typset there are two \RATE already defined errors.


I have searched around for an answer/solution. Any suggestions?


As I said, the pdf is still typeset; all I want is to be rid of this error.


Charlie Millar


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Re: [O] dropping the debian version

[Charles Millar]

Sharon,

Sharon Kimble wrote:

This has been probably been asked many times before but auntie google
can't find it if so.

I've just updated my git clone of org-mode to its version
'409913b253de2de1b49f9468a4b77b9292e090c4' from 'ORIG_HEAD' and I've
done
--8---cut here---start-8---
M-x org-version
--8---cut here---end---8---

which now shows

╭
│Org-mode version 8.2.6 (release_8.2.6-1 @ 
/usr/local/share/emacs/24.3.93/lisp/org/)
╰

How do I drop the debian version and stick with the git version please?

I have this as part of my init file.
--8---cut here---start-8---
;;; -*- emacs-lisp-mode -*- --- init file
;;; mine from 27-11-13. Heavily influenced by http://www.aaronbedra.com/emacs.d/
;; Show errors in this file:
(setq debug-on-error t
debug-on-signal nil
debug-on-quit nil)

(setq load-path (cons /home/boudiccas/.emacs.d/lisp load-path))
(add-to-list 'load-path /home/boudiccas/git/org-mode/lisp load-path) (require 
'org-install)
(add-to-list 'load-path /home/boudiccas/git/org-mode/contrib/lisp load-path)
--8---cut here---end---8---

Thanks
Sharon.

Pretty much what Eric and Achim have already siad.

I run make update2 each morning; the most recent org mode is in my 
/home/directory/.elisp


and my .emacs.d/init.el loads it via

(add-to-list 'load-path /home/directory/.elisp/org-mode/lisp)
(add-to-list 'load-path /home/directory/.elisp/org-mode/contrib/lisp/)

Essentially I copied it from section 1.2 of the manual.

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Re: [O] Table formula with @I

[Charles Millar]

Andrea Rossetti wrote:

Loris Bennett loris.benn...@fu-berlin.de writes:

In the following:

|   |   |   |
|   |   |   |
|---+---+---|
| 1 | 1 | 1 |
#+TBLFM: @I$3=1

I expected to get a '1' just in the third column.  Where am I going
wrong?

(apologies in advance for suggesting just a workaround
instead of a rational explanation, hope it helps anyway)

It happened to me too some time ago, I used a slightly
different formula and it worked:

#+TBLFM: @I+1$3..@I+1$3=1

Does it work for you too? Kindest regards,

   Andrea

I must be missing something. When I recalculate the table (update table) 
applying both above TBLFM's - on the line to be updated, in the TBLFM 
line, and in the table itself, an error is returned


can't assign to hline relative reference

Org-mode version 8.3beta (release_8.3beta-304-ga4a1d8 @ 
c:/cygwin/home/Charlie01/.elisp/org-mode/lisp/)

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Re: [O] simple expense tracking with org

[Charles Millar]

Thorsten Jolitz wrote:

torys.ander...@gmail.com (Tory S. Anderson) writes:


Could you give a few snippets of examples -- what the org files with
tags look like, what the result looks like? I'm interested because I
also use Org to do my budgeting and finances.

You two know about ledger-cli, emacs ledger-mode, and ob-ledger.el,
don't you?


Eike e...@eknet.org writes:


Hello there,

I thought to share a little elisp thingy that I wrote to track my
expenses with org. I use the org's capture mechanism to add expense
items to some files and the following code only searches through all
these files and creates summaries of all found expenses. It is possible
to search by date, tags etc.

You can have a look here: https://github.com/eikek/org-expenses


Regards,
Eike

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I have found that ledger and Sacha Chua's org-capture-template, modified 
to my needs, does a great job keeping trackn of my day of day to 
expenses, amongst other things,


Emacs: Recording ledger entries with org-capture-templates

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[O] Exporter dispatcher bug?

[Charles Millar]

Have I missed an announcement?

Today, using C-c C-e, the dispatcher shows only the LaTeX and Publisher 
options.


I tried M-x org-export-dispatch and HTML was also included.

i have exited emacs and restarted - same results.

Org-mode version 8.3beta (release_8.3beta-400-g200eeb @ 
c:/cygwin/home/Charlie01/.elisp/org-mode/lisp/)


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Re: [O] Exporter dispatcher bug?

[Charles Millar]

Brady Trainor wrote:

Charles Millar mill...@verizon.net writes:


Today, using C-c C-e, the dispatcher shows only the LaTeX and
Publisher options.


What is the result C-h v org-export-backends?


-- snip --
Its value is (ascii html icalendar latex)
-- snip --

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Re: [O] Exporter dispatcher bug?

[Charles Millar]

Brady and Charles and all,

Thanks for your suggestions.

The following is rather long-winded.

Charles Berry wrote:

Brady Trainor algebrat at uw.edu writes:



Charles Millar millarc at verizon.net writes:


Brady Trainor wrote:

Charles Millar millarc at verizon.net writes:


Today, using C-c C-e, the dispatcher shows only the LaTeX and
Publisher options.


What is the result C-h v org-export-backends?


-- snip --
Its value is (ascii html icalendar latex)
-- snip --

Charlie

Looks normal! Wild guess, had to try :)


I think you want to check

(mapcar 'org-export-backend-name org-export--registered-backends)

to see what backends are actually available to the export dispatcher.

and  (mapcar 'org-export-backend-menu org-export--registered-backends)

to see what menu options should be there.

HTH,

Chuck



I found (mapcar 'org-export-backend-menu 
org-export--registered-backends); however (mapcar 
'org-export-backend-name org-export--registered-backends) does not exist 
in my ox.el.
On my Linux learning machine (Jessie, same org version) the dispatcher 
is fine. However there appears to be no (mapcar 'org-export-backend-name 
org-export--registered-backends)


In the meantime, I did my regular org update and still have the same 
problem. The dispatcher (on my Vista machine) shows the toggled options 
at the top and bottom. In between the LaTeX and Publish backends with 
options are shown, but no others. (There has not been a problem with the 
toggled options)


So I did M-x org-export-to-[tab] which gave

Possible completions are:
org-ascii-export-to-ascii org-beamer-export-to-latex
org-beamer-export-to-pdf org-bibtex-export-to-kill-ring
org-html-export-to-html org-icalendar-export-to-ics
org-latex-export-to-latex org-latex-export-to-pdf
org-md-export-to-markdown org-odt-export-to-odt
org-org-export-to-org

I decided to choose ascii, which reported an export to a txt file (did 
not check it out). After that the ascii backend had been loaded into the 
dispatcher as well as the LaTeX and Publish.


I did a M-x org-export-to-html, which reported an export to html; the 
dispatcher now had ascii, html, LaTeX and Publish


Org-mode version 8.3beta (release_8.3beta-400-g200eeb @ 
c:/cygwin/home/Charlie01/.elisp/org-mode/lisp/)

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Re: [O] Exporter dispatcher bug?

[Charles Millar]

What I meant was:

You should eval

(mapcar 'org-export-backend-name org-export--registered-backends)

to see what backends are available to the dispatcher.

If you copy that line into an emacs buffer (like *scratch*), put point 
after it and type C-x C-e, you will see the backend names listed in 
the minibuffer and the *Messages* buffer.



Same results as C-c C-e; only LaTeX and Publish are listed.
This list *ought to* correspond to `org-export-backends'. If it does 
not there is a hiccup or unusual customization in your setup - more 
digging might be needed.


I suspect my set up and perhaps  more specifically a Cygwin problem. I 
update org via Cygwin.


Just before receiving your most recent reply I commented out everything 
in my .emacs/init.el file, except for


(add-to-list 'load-path c:/cygwin/home/Charlie01/.elisp/org-mode/lisp)

(add-to-list 'load-path 
c:/cygwin/home/Charlie01/.elisp/org-mode/contrib/lisp)


Instead of just eval-buffer, i restarted emacs. C-c C-e only listed 
Publisher, not even LaTeX
If it does correspond, then use the customize menu to reset 
`org-export-backends' to your desired value and save the change as you 
need it.



will give it a try.

HTH,

Chuck



Thanks,

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Re: [O] Export dispatcher interface change

[Charles Millar]

In case it helps to track the bug, I reported this to the list a week or 
two ago. See my message of 9/24 and the subsequent messages of how M-x 
org-export-html, etc added to the export dsipatcher


Charlie Millar

Jacek Generowicz wrote:

Hello,

I am used to the export dispatcher offering sections for export to HTML
[h] and LaTeX [l].

After having upgraded a number of things on my system (including a small
bump of Emacs, but NOT (to my knowledge) org mode), the dispatcher no
longer offers the [h] and [l] options ... until I invoke one of the
commands via M-x. In other words,

 M-x org-html-export-to-html

causes the [h] section to be available in the dispatcher thereafter.

Any ideas what might have caused this change, or what I might do to have
the [h] and [l] dispatcher options be available automatically?

My versions:

   (emacs-version)
   GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.12.2)
of 2014-09-08 on binet, modified by Debian
   
   (org-version)

   8.2

Thanks.





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Re: [O] Export dispatcher interface change

[Charles Millar]

Charles Millar wrote:
In case it helps to track the bug, I reported this to the list a week 
or two ago. See my message of 9/24 and the subsequent messages of how 
M-x org-export-html, etc added to the export dsipatcher


Charlie Millar

My apologies to Brady Trainor and Charles Berry - I neglected to mention 
that they attempted to assist me.


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Re: [O] Org Tutorials need more structure

[Charles Millar]

Hi Carsten,

On 9/28/2013 2:11 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:

Hi everyone,

today I looked at our tutorial page at

http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/index.html

and came away with the feeling that that this page has become
somewhat useless for people who are really new to Org.
- I disagree. Your Google talk was just right - for me. It was my first 
exposure to Org Mode.


Can we have a discussion here on how this path should look like?
When you came to Org-mode as a newby, what were the three resources
that really made an impression on by being accessible and
providing feel and promise for digging deeper?
About three years ago I stumbled across Org Mode when I was searching 
Emacs in general. (I already was familiar with Emacs, but only to fool 
around.)
After viewing the Google talk, I specifically searched Org Mode. The 
three resources that made an impression:

- the general tutorials, starting with David O'Toole's,
- the Compact Guide with the Further Readings, (I did not look at the 
ones in the Org Manual) since this gave me a sense of how Org is and can 
be used, and
- *the mailing list*, which was the one resource that has made the 
greatest impression on me from the beginning. It has been and is my best 
resource; it provides the greatest exposure to Org Mode both as to its 
uses and sense of the Org community.

- Thank you Carsten, Bastien and all the rest if you for Org Mode.

Charlie Millar

Re: [O] Org Tutorials need more structure

[Charles Millar]

On 9/28/2013 3:52 PM, Thomas S. Dye wrote:

Aloha Carsten,


snip

First, I think that most statements about what Org-mode is are
outdated. Many of them are quite good, but they represent the previous
state of an evolving system and so fail to capture the full scope. To my
mind, Org-mode is a research programming interface written by and for
scientists who take very seriously certain core values of the scientific
enterprise--reproducibility, open access, and open source (a partial
list).
Strongly disagree with the sentiment. My undergraduate degree may gave 
been Physics, but I work as a freelance paralegal. I use Org Mode for 
project (file) planning, scheduling, drafting documents, etc. Also, I 
believe that there are some very active participants on this list who 
are not scientists and have made great contributions.

Its original focus on project planning has expanded with two
amazing and fundamental contributions, Eric and Dan's mature Babel
implementation and Nicolas' new export framework.
I use the LaTeX export to create pdf documents, such as contracts and 
pleadings, nothing scientific there. Sometimes I will export to utf-8 
text file, so I can copy and paste into those other document formats. 
(Sorry to say, but most of the US legal community is still MS Word and 
WordPerfect oriented.) I believe that I can eventually use Org-Babel for 
reproducible research, research being more other than scientific.


These core values are manifest most clearly in the Org-mode community
and its organ, the mailing list. There isn't a tutorial on how to use
the mailing list! I'm confident that others in the Org-mode community
admire Nick Dokos' contributions to the list as much as I do. It would
be great to have his perspective and approach in a short, welcoming
tutorial.
No argument about the mailing list - see my earlier post. Also, Nick has 
helped me a few times; and I might add, I make sure that I read your 
posts - this is not to curry favor!

hth,
Tom



Charlie Millar

Re: [O] Org Tutorials need more structure

[Charles Millar]

On 9/28/2013 5:52 PM, John Hendy wrote:

On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Marcin Borkowski mb...@wmi.amu.edu.pl wrote:

Dnia 2013-09-28, o godz. 16:50:09
Charles Millar mill...@verizon.net napisał(a):


On 9/28/2013 3:52 PM, Thomas S. Dye wrote:

Aloha Carsten,


snip

First, I think that most statements about what Org-mode is are
outdated. Many of them are quite good, but they represent the
previous state of an evolving system and so fail to capture the
full scope. To my mind, Org-mode is a research programming
interface written by and for scientists who take very seriously
certain core values of the scientific enterprise--reproducibility,
open access, and open source (a partial list).

Strongly disagree with the sentiment. My undergraduate degree may
gave been Physics, but I work as a freelance paralegal. I use Org
Mode for project (file) planning, scheduling, drafting documents,
etc. Also, I believe that there are some very active participants on
this list who are not scientists and have made great contributions.

+1.  Although I'm also a scientist (mathematics), I used Org-mode /once/
for science, and it turned out that I felt very much constrained and
quickly got back to LaTeX, where I felt much more comfortable.
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Adam Mickiewicz University


This is starting to remind me of bike-shedding. Org-mode is a toolbox
providing various things that can work toward whatever end one wants.
It's agnostic to field. It doesn't really matter what the end uses are
-- Org-mode is what functions it provides. How those are combined by
others in various fields, lines of work, or so on are simply
illustrations of it's capabilities with respect to neat ways of
combining various aspects of what Org is.

Thus, I wouldn't try to pitch these things one way or another (Org is
great for paralegals or Org is the answer for those doing
re-producible research); I'd simply list what it does as what is is
and what it can be used for as a way to entice new users and help
get into the top results of some google searches for
tools/solutions/etc..

It seems we all get what it really is, (TODOs/agenda, universal
markdown - export to tons of formats, allowing mixing of
prose/code/results, and so on), but are sort of trying to lay claim to
why these tools make it best suited toward some particular field.

Whether you use one of Org's features or all of them, it is what it is
and this can be highlighted in a neat manner and made appealing to
those looking for help in these relevant areas of life.


John



You said it better than I.

Charlie

Re: [O] Difficulties Accessing git Repository

[Charles Millar]

Hello,

On 10/8/2013 1:32 PM, Josiah Schwab wrote:

Hi All,


I just tried to pull from the main org-mode git repository.  I
encountered the following failure.

,
| monolith:(stable) org-mode$ git pull
| fatal: read error: Connection reset by peer
`

I can confirm this issue.  I successfully pulled earlier today though.

This seems to be intermittent.  It worked (~8 hours) later on October 2.
I tried to update a few minutes ago and again had a failure.

Is there any other information that would be useful to report?  I tried
to pull while at my home (residential ISP) and then my work
(university), and had failures both times.

Josiah



This morning and just now I tried to update using

cd ~/.elisp/org-mode  make update2

and the following failure resulted

rm -f
git remote update
Fetching origin
fatal: read error: Connection reset by peer
error: Could not fetch origin
make: ***  [up0] error 1

Charlie Millar

Re: [O] Difficulties Accessing git Repository

[Charles Millar]

Hi again,

On 10/9/2013 3:17 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:

Hi,

I just pulled successfully.

- Carsten




It is four hours after Carsten's post and I was not successful on either 
my Vista machine using Cygwin 1.7.25 or my Debian Lenny.


Charlie

[O] Bug: Is radio tables broken?

[Charles Millar]

I tried to use the LaTeX radio tables that I included in a file that I 
set up a year ago.


When point was in the first cell of the table, C-c C-c gave

C-c C-c can do nothing useful at this location.

I copied the LaTeX radio table (section A.6.2) from the manual into a 
scratch.org file, put the point in the first cell, C-c C-c 'd with the 
same result.


Out of curiosity I changed one of the Days number for January, C-c 
C-c'd the TBLFM: and again the same message.


Is there a bug or what am I missing in the manual?

Charlie Millar

Re: [O] Bug: Is radio tables broken?

[Charles Millar]

On 11/8/2013 10:24 AM, Charles Millar wrote:
I tried to use the LaTeX radio tables that I included in a file that I 
set up a year ago.


When point was in the first cell of the table, C-c C-c gave

C-c C-c can do nothing useful at this location.

I copied the LaTeX radio table (section A.6.2) from the manual into a 
scratch.org file, put the point in the first cell, C-c C-c 'd with the 
same result.


Out of curiosity I changed one of the Days number for January, C-c 
C-c'd the TBLFM: and again the same message.


Is there a bug or what am I missing in the manual?


Forgot to mention that

GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.0.6002) of 2013-03-17 on MARVIN
Org-mode version 8.2.2 (release_8.2.2-180-g71152d @ 
c:/cygwin/home/owner/.elisp/org-mode/lisp/)

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Re: [O] Bug: Is radio tables broken?

[Charles Millar]

Nick

On 11/8/2013 3:56 PM, Nick Dokos wrote:

Charles Millar mill...@verizon.net writes:


I tried to use the LaTeX radio tables that I included in a file that I
set up a year ago.

When point was in the first cell of the table, C-c C-c gave

C-c C-c can do nothing useful at this location.

I copied the LaTeX radio table (section A.6.2) from the manual into a
scratch.org file, put the point in the first cell, C-c C-c 'd with the
same result.

Out of curiosity I changed one of the Days number for January, C-c
C-c'd the TBLFM: and again the same message.

Is there a bug or what am I missing in the manual?


You need to turn on orgtbl-mode as a minor mode:

M-x orgtbl-mode

But putting the example in an org document misses the point I think: the
idea is that you have a *LaTeX document* (not an org one), but you want
to be able to create a table using org syntax and to then automatically
create the LaTeX table from the org table. So you add the code into your
LaTeX document, turn on orgtbl-mode as a minor mode and then press C-c
C-c on the ORGTBL: SEND line which turns the org table into a LaTeX
table and inserts it at the spot specified with the BEGIN/END RECEIVE
ORGTBL stufff.

Nick

 Thanks. I obviously forgot the procedure. I used org mode for the 
entire file.  When it came time to use the radio tables I would M-x 
tex-mode and then M-x orgtbl-mode and proceeded from there.


Charlie

Re: [O] LaTeX export with documentclass ltugboat

[Charles Millar]

Jason,

On 11/28/2013 7:02 AM, Jason Lewis wrote:

Hi,

How can I export an org file to LaTeX with a document class of ltugboat?

I've seen the example linked below but it doesn't appear to work in
8.2.1 and in fact states its for org  8.0.
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-latex-export.html

Is this documented somewhere for versions  8.0?

Any pointers would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Jason



I just started LaTeX export recently and referred to that page.

I added (require 'ox-latex) to my .emacs and the custom classes example 
(as modified for my purposes) worked fine.


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Re: [O] LaTeX export with documentclass ltugboat

[Charles Millar]

On 11/29/2013 12:21 AM, Jason Lewis wrote:

Hi Charles,

Thanks for your suggestion. I've tried it out it doesn't work for me.


I ran this elisp to add the export class

(require 'org-latex)
(unless (boundp 'org-export-latex-classes)
(add-to-list 'org-export-latex-classes
  '(ltugboat
\\documentclass{ltugboat}
(\\section{%s} . \\section*{%s})
(\\subsection{%s} . \\subsection*{%s})
(\\subsubsection{%s} . \\subsubsection*{%s})
(\\paragraph{%s} . \\paragraph*{%s})
(\\subparagraph{%s} . \\subparagraph*{%s})))

made an org file:

#+LaTeX_CLASS: ltugboat
TEST


but when I export it gives an error:

user-error: Unknown LaTeX class `ltugboat'

Thanks,

Jason



Charles Millar wrote, On 28/11/2013 11:37 PM:

Jason,

On 11/28/2013 7:02 AM, Jason Lewis wrote:

Hi,

How can I export an org file to LaTeX with a document class of ltugboat?

I've seen the example linked below but it doesn't appear to work in
8.2.1 and in fact states its for org  8.0.
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-latex-export.html

Is this documented somewhere for versions  8.0?

Any pointers would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Jason


I just started LaTeX export recently and referred to that page.

I added (require 'ox-latex) to my .emacs and the custom classes example
(as modified for my purposes) worked fine.

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I have read of your success using Tom Dye's suggestion.

 I realize that my original reply was not complete, so just to be sure 
- did you put (require 'ox-letex) before your customized LaTeX class?


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[O] Problem updating Org

[Charles Millar]

I update org daily (at least I try to) using make-update2 in Cygwin git.
Today I received the following message

- - - - begin message - - - -
rm -f
git checkout
Dcontrib/lisp/ob-groovy.el
Mcontrib/lisp/ob-oz.el
Mcontrib/lisp/org-mac-link.el
Mlisp/ob-C.el
Dlisp/ob-J.el
Mlisp/ob-latex.el
Mlisp/ob-maxima.el
Mlisp/org-agenda.el
Mlisp/org-element.el
Mlisp/org-habit.el
Mlisp/org-inlinetask.el
Mlisp/org-table.el
Mlisp/org.el
Mlisp/ox-html.el
Mlisp/ox-latex.el
Mlisp/ox-texinfo.el
Mlisp/ox.el
Mtesting/lisp/test-ob.el
Mtesting/lisp/test-ox.el
Your branch is behind 'origin/master' by 6 commits, and can be 
fast-forwarded.

git remote update
Fetching origin
From git://orgmode.org/org-mode
   13bb116..6e51188  master - origin/master
   1a3591c..03ce57e  maint  - origin/maint
git pull
error: Your local changes to the following files would be overwritten by 
merge:

lisp/ox-html.el
Please, commit your changes or stash them before you can merge.
Aborting
Updating e23bbda..6e51188
mk/targets.mk:111: recipe for target 'up0' failed
make: *** [up0] Error 1
- - - - end message - - - -

I have not opened ox-html.el and I do not export to html. (I do export 
to LaTeX.)


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Re: [O] Export each top level heading to separate file

[Charles Millar]

Ista and all,

On 1/4/2014 5:29 PM, Ista Zahn wrote:

Hi all,

I'm looking for a way to export each top-level heading to a separate
markdown file. Ideally I would like to have the exported files named
according to the heading. For example I would like this org file

---
* Section one
Section one text
* Section two
** Section two a
Section two text
* Section three
Section three text
---

To generate three files:

--- Section one.md ---
Section one text

---

--- Section two.md---
## Section two a

Section two text

---

--- Section three.md -
# Section three

Section three text

---

I suspect that the publishing framework might support this, but I've
thus far avoided it because it looks pretty complicated to set up.
Before I dive in I'd like to know if the publishing framework is the
correct place to look for this functionality or if there is an easier
way to do it.




I have a similar question regarding LaTeX export. How to export a 
heading (any heading, regardless of level) within a file to heading.tex 
instead of file.tex? So far the only solution I have cobbled together is 
to C-x C-f 'file.tex and then C-x C-w heading.tex .  I then typeset 
heading.tex using TeXworks. Perhaps I should note that my exported 
heading is tagged so that the heading is ignored.


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Re: [O] Export each top level heading to separate file

[Charles Millar]

Alan,

On 1/4/2014 6:41 PM, Alan L Tyree wrote:

Use properties to set the export file name -- example:
  :PROPERTIES:
  :EXPORT_TITLE: Internet banking fraud
  :EXPORT_FILE_NAME: internet-fraud
  :EXPORT_AUTHOR: Alan L Tyree
  :Citation: (2011) 22 JBFLP 214
  :EXPORT_OPTIONS: num:nil toc:nil
  :END:

If I understood your question properly.

Cheers,
Alan


Thank you. Using C-c C-e C-s l o now exports to a pdf file no problem.

Charlie Millar


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Re: [O] Problem updating Org

[Charles Millar]

Thank you.

On 1/2/2014 2:01 PM, Nathan DeGruchy wrote:
Try checking out the version already in HEAD: git checkout -- 
lisp/ox-html.el


Then pull again.

*Nathan DeGruchy*
nat...@degruchy.org mailto:nat...@degruchy.org


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Re: [O] Using checkboxes: nested lists

[Charles Millar]

jone...@teksavvy.com wrote:

- [2/2] maintest
   - [X] test2
   - [X] test3
   - [1/2] test4
 - [X] test4a
 - [ ] test4b

This may be a solution for your purposes

- [2/3] maintest
  - [X] test2
  - [X] test3
  - [ ] test4 [1/2]
- [X] test4a
- [  ] test4b

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Re: [O] Space around tables in LaTeX export?

[Charles Millar]

Peter Davis wrote:

In the resulting PDF, there's no space between the table and the surrounding 
text.

how about

#+BEGIN_LATEX
\vspace{/somelength}/
#+END_LATEX


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Re: [O] Space around tables in LaTeX export?

[Charles Millar]

Peter Davis wrote:

On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 12:18:20PM -0500, Charles Millar wrote:

Peter Davis wrote:

In the resulting PDF, there's no space between the table and the surrounding 
text.

how about

#+BEGIN_LATEX
\vspace{/somelength}/
#+END_LATEX


Ok, but I was hoping for a more org-mode-y solution.

Thanks!

-pd



Correction
somehow a couple of  / crept in

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Re: [O] orgtble and flyspell interaction causing mem exhaustion error?

[Charles Millar]

I have had the same problem on Vista. On my system it started about six 
to eight weeks ago. As I recall, a couple of times I attempted to create 
an org-table from a tab separated Excel spreadsheet using C-c |. The 
first bar appeared and emacs froze.


I also have experienced the same behavior as Alexander - enter the first 
bar, then some text. When I attempt to enter the second bar - emacs 
freezes.


I just tried it and emacs still freezes under those circumstances.

GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.0.6002) of 2013-03-17 on MARVIN; 
Org-mode version 8.2.5h (release_8.2.5h-634-gea4eb4 @ 
c:/cygwin/home/owner/.elisp/org-mode/lisp/) flyspell mode on;


Charlie


Alexander Vorobiev wrote:

I am seeing similar behavior with tables: if I type a bar and some
text, then as soon as I enter second bar emacs freezes. Turning
flyspell off seems to fix the problem. I actually see this both on
Windows 7 with hunspell and on linux with aspell.  I use org-mode from
git on both but I haven't used tables in a while so I don't really
know when the problem began. In non-org buffers flyspell doesn't seem
to care about bars.

Alex

On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 12:10 AM, Sivaram Neelakantan
nsivaram@gmail.com wrote:

On Fri, Nov 29 2013,Nick Dokos wrote:


Sivaram Neelakantan nsivaram@gmail.com writes:


When I try to create an table using org-table-create, the table
outline shows up and upon writing any word in any cell, it causes
Emacs to freeze up with an error like 95% physical mem used.  When I
disable flyspell mode and try it again, the issue does not happen.

Anyone else experiencing this or is it only me?



Worked fine here.


sorry, forgot to mention, mine is win32 Emacs 24.3 on win 7 with
aspell from cygwin and the latest git snapshot of org.

  sivaram
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[O] org-latex-with-hyperref missing?

[Charles Millar]

Has the above command been removed and been replaced with 
org-latex-hyperref-template?


Can't find anything concerning this.

Just checking before I change my init file.

Nicholas Goaziou referred to org-latex-with-hyprref as recently as Feb 
17, 2014.


org version Org-mode version 8.2.5h (release_8.2.5h-664-g737146 @ 
c:/cygwin/home/owner/.elisp/org-mode/lisp/)


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Re: [O] org-latex-with-hyperref missing?

[Charles Millar]

On 3/2/2014 11:01 AM, Charles Millar wrote:
Has the above command been removed and been replaced with 
org-latex-hyperref-template?


Can't find anything concerning this.

Just checking before I change my init file.

Nicholas Goaziou referred to org-latex-with-hyprref as recently as Feb 
17, 2014.


org version Org-mode version 8.2.5h (release_8.2.5h-664-g737146 @ 
c:/cygwin/home/owner/.elisp/org-mode/lisp/)


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So,I changed my init file anyway before waiting for any answer. I set 
the template to an empty string, which works for me.


Even so, was there any mention of this change?

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Re: [O] org-latex-with-hyperref missing?

[Charles Millar]

On 3/2/2014 4:37 PM, Nick Dokos wrote:

Charles Millar mill...@verizon.net writes:


On 3/2/2014 11:01 AM, Charles Millar wrote:

Has the above command been removed and been replaced with
org-latex-hyperref-template?

Can't find anything concerning this.

Just checking before I change my init file.

Nicholas Goaziou referred to org-latex-with-hyprref as recently as
Feb 17, 2014.

org version Org-mode version 8.2.5h (release_8.2.5h-664-g737146 @
c:/cygwin/home/owner/.elisp/org-mode/lisp/)


So,I changed my init file anyway before waiting for any answer. I set
the template to an empty string, which works for me.

Even so, was there any mention of this change?


The commit is

commit 73714684e4f8836a80891c053b952151a90b93da
Author: Joe Hirn joseph.h...@gmail.com
Date:   Fri Feb 28 09:40:37 2014 +0100

 ox-latex: Allow customization of hyperrefsetup
 
 * lisp/ox-latex.el (org-latex-hyperref-template): New variable.

 (org-latex-with-hyperref): Remove variable.
 (org-latex-template): Use new variable.


There was a fairly extensive discussion in this thread:

 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/82430



Thanks, Nick.

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Re: [O] orgtble and flyspell interaction causing mem exhaustion error?

[Charles Millar]

Hi Bastien,

Bastien wrote:

Hi Charles,

Charles Millar mill...@verizon.net writes:


I have had the same problem on Vista. On my system it started about
six to eight weeks ago. As I recall, a couple of times I attempted to
create an org-table from a tab separated Excel spreadsheet using C-c
|. The first bar appeared and emacs froze.


is it getting any better with latest Org?

Seems rather annoying, if should get this fixed somehow.


I guess it's fixed.

Believe it or not, until earlier today, I did not have any reason to 
convert an Excel tab delimited file. I did so with no problem. I had 
forgotten about my earlier problem in this regards.


Thanks for keeping on top of this.

Charlie

Re: [O] org-export-latex-hyperref-options-format

[Charles Millar]

Thomas,

Thomas S. Dye wrote:

Aloha Nick,

Nick Dokos ndo...@gmail.com writes:


#+BIND is supposed to bind the variable *during export*. The test is to
run the export and see if the hyperref stuff is gone from the tex file.

Nick


I did run the export and the hyperref stuff was still in the tex file.

I'm exporting asynchronously--perhaps that's the problem?  The old
#+OPTIONS: texht:nil worked for asynchronous export, though, so I was
expecting that BIND would do the same.

I guess I could set org-export-hyperref-template to  in the
asynchronous export initialization file ...

All the best,
Tom



Nick pointed out this thread to me when I had a similar (or the same) 
problem. I changed the hyperref template to the empty string.


  http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/82430

Charlie Millar

Re: [O] Extremely slow org-table operations

[Charles Millar]

Hi,

York Zhao wrote:

I think Org 8.3 should improve the situation. Please test it if you can.

I was aware that my emacs -Q test was done against org-mode version 8.2.x.
However, I use the latest org-mode from Git everyday. For example, the version
I'm currently using is (from M-x org-version): Org-mode version 8.3beta
(release_8.3beta-509-g86ec0a.dirty @ /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/org/). So
apparently the problem had never been addressed.


Meanwhile, I suggest to insert some subsections in your file.

What do you mean by insert some subsections?


Thanks


On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 5:43 AM, Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr wrote:

Hello,

York Zhao gtdplatf...@gmail.com writes:


A few months ago I tried Emacs 24.4 and was disappointed because almost all of
the org-table operations became AT LEAST ten times slower. Because recently
Emacs 24.4 gets officially released, I finally switched over. However, the
problems I had several months ago were still there, i.e., in a big file,
org-table operations are at least ten times slower. I tried profiling it but
didn't help much. So I decided to report the issue here.

[...]


In summery, the file test.org has more than 5000 org-table tables, each table
has a formula. If you move the point to the tables not too far away from the
beginning of the buffer and press C-c C-c on the formula line, you will notice
that the speed is very fast which is great. However, if you move the point far
away enough from the beginning of the buffer (move to the end for example), you
will find that C-c C-c on the formula line becomes much slower.

Many other operations are also very slow. However, because I haven't been able
to create the ECMs for those operations yet, lets focus on this one
first.

I think Org 8.3 should improve the situation. Please test it if you can.
Meanwhile, I suggest to insert some subsections in your file.


Regards,

--
Nicolas Goaziou


IIRC Carsten Dominik made the following observation: org tables are 
extremely slow if they are used as workbooks/spreadsheets and there are 
many entries (many is undefined). He recommended that a spreadsheet 
program in such situations.


I learned that the hard way when I had one table - four columns, three 
simple addition formulas with about 1,000 entries. It seemed an eternity 
before the addition was completed.


Charlie Millar

Re: [O] Extremely slow org-table operations

[Charles Millar]

Hi Michael

 Michael Brand wrote:
 Hi Charles

 First I would like to point out that to my understanding there are now
 two separate issues in discussion in this thread which are easy to mix
 up:

 1) The same table calculates fast or slow depending on the position
 within the same entry, see OP.
 I did not understand; I thought that the speed slowed down as the OP 
progressed from table to table in the file.

 2) An entry with nothing but a single table, as you describe it:
 True; I did not bother to mention other files in which I had multiple 
tables, some with references to other tables in the file. At times M-x 
org-table-iterate-buffer-tables seemed to take eternity, squared. 
(Imagine a smiley face placed here.)
 On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Charles Millar 
mill...@verizon.net wrote:

 I learned that the hard way when I had one table - four columns, three
 simple addition formulas with about 1,000 entries. It seemed an 
eternity

 before the addition was completed.
 Only out of curiosity I would like to see the TBLFM. And do you see
 still the same slowness with 8.3beta?
 It has been quite a while and I suspect that my experience may have 
been with org 8.0. I try to find the older files, give them a run and 
let you know.  I will also give org another shot using multiple tables, 
as spreadsheets, in one file. The worst that can happen is that I will 
have to export the tables.


 Charlie

Re: [O] Extremely slow org-table operations

[Charles Millar]

Earlier today I attempted to send the following.
Charles Millar wrote:

Hi Michael,

Michael Brand wrote:

Hi Charles

First I would like to point out that to my understanding there are now
two separate issues in discussion in this thread which are easy to mix
up:

1) The same table calculates fast or slow depending on the position
within the same entry, see OP.
I did not understand; I thought that the speed slowed down as the OP 
progressed from table to table in the file.

2) An entry with nothing but a single table, as you describe it:
True; I did not bother to mention other files in which I had multiple 
tables, some with references to other tables in the file. At times 
M-x org-table-iterate-buffer-tables seemed to take eternity, 
squared. (Imagine a smiley face placed here.)
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Charles Millar 
mill...@verizon.net wrote:

I learned that the hard way when I had one table - four columns, three
simple addition formulas with about 1,000 entries. It seemed an 
eternity

before the addition was completed.

Only out of curiosity I would like to see the TBLFM. And do you see
still the same slowness with 8.3beta?
It has been quite a while and I suspect that my experience may have 
been with org 8.0. I try to find the older files, give them a run and 
let you know.  I will also give org another shot using multiple 
tables, as spreadsheets, in one file. The worst that can happen is 
that I will have to export the tables.


Charlie

[O] Fwd: Re: Extremely slow org-table operations

[Charles Millar]

---BeginMessage---

Hi Michael,

Michael Brand wrote:

Hi Charles

First I would like to point out that to my understanding there are now
two separate issues in discussion in this thread which are easy to mix
up:

1) The same table calculates fast or slow depending on the position
within the same entry, see OP.
I did not understand; I thought that the speed slowed down as the OP 
progressed from table to table in the file.

2) An entry with nothing but a single table, as you describe it:
True; I did not bother to mention other files in which I had multiple 
tables, some with references to other tables in the file. At times M-x 
org-table-iterate-buffer-tables seemed to take eternity, squared. 
(Imagine a smiley face placed here.)

On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Charles Millar mill...@verizon.net wrote:

I learned that the hard way when I had one table - four columns, three
simple addition formulas with about 1,000 entries. It seemed an eternity
before the addition was completed.

Only out of curiosity I would like to see the TBLFM. And do you see
still the same slowness with 8.3beta?
It has been quite a while and I suspect that my experience may have been 
with org 8.0. I try to find the older files, give them a run and let 
you know.  I will also give org another shot using multiple tables, as 
spreadsheets, in one file. The worst that can happen is that I will have 
to export the tables.


Charlie
---End Message---

Re: [O] Extremely slow org-table operations

[Charles Millar]

Hi Michael,

Michael Brand wrote:

Hi Charles

First I would like to point out that to my understanding there are now
two separate issues in discussion in this thread which are easy to mix
up:

1) The same table calculates fast or slow depending on the position
within the same entry, see OP.
I did not understand; I thought that the speed slowed down as the OP 
progressed from table to table in the file.

2) An entry with nothing but a single table, as you describe it:
True; I did not bother to mention other files in which I had multiple 
tables, some with references to other tables in the file. At times M-x 
org-table-iterate-buffer-tables seemed to take eternity, squared. 
(Imagine a smiley face placed here.)

On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Charles Millar mill...@verizon.net wrote:

I learned that the hard way when I had one table - four columns, three
simple addition formulas with about 1,000 entries. It seemed an eternity
before the addition was completed.

Only out of curiosity I would like to see the TBLFM. And do you see
still the same slowness with 8.3beta?
It has been quite a while and I suspect that my experience may have been 
with org 8.0. I try to find the older files, give them a run and let 
you know.  I will also give org another shot using multiple tables, as 
spreadsheets, in one file. The worst that can happen is that I will have 
to export the tables.


Charlie

Re: [O] Extremely slow org-table operations

[Charles Millar]

Hi York,

York Zhao wrote:

@Charlie Millar:

 IIRC Carsten Dominik made the following observation: org tables are 
extremely
 slow if they are used as workbooks/spreadsheets and there are many 
entries

 (many is undefined).

Thanks for the information, could you please clarify what entry 
means? Does it

mean org headline, or a row in an org-table?

 I learned that the hard way when I had one table - four columns, 
three simple
 addition formulas with about 1,000 entries. It seemed an eternity 
before the

 addition was completed.

I guess the entries here mean the table rows right? Please confirm.

You are correct; I should have said rows. In my file there were 1000 
(+/-) rows and each row had up to three entries, not including the 
description in the first row.
For instance (without any formulas) in the following row I entered each 
amount in columns 2,3  4.


| this was a transaction | 100.00 | 200.00 | 300.00|

So I considered this three entries. So actually there were 3,000 (+/-) 
entries.


Charlie

Re: [O] How to specify output file for org-latex-export-to-pdf

[Charles Millar]

Hi Guido,

Guido Van Hoecke wrote:

Hi,

How can I specify the desired output filename so that 
org-latex-export-to-pdf does no longer prompt me in the minibuffer?


I call it from a temporary buffer *perls* and always want to export to 
/tmp/perls.pdf


I've read the docs and tried to understand the lisp files, but did not 
come up with a solution.


TIA for your suggestions,


Guido.

Is this what you are looking for

** subtree heading
:PROPERTIES:
:EXPORT_FILE_NAME: path/to/filename
:END:

See the last paragraph in Org Manual Section 12.3

Charlie Millar

[O] bug - active and inactive time stamps incorrect year for current date and rest of month

[Charles Millar]

When I call either active or inactive timestamps and enter the current 
date from the keyboard, i.e. 2/10, rather than simply pressing enter the 
result is 2016-02-10 Wed or [2016-02-10 Wed], i.e. the year is already 
advanced. If I enter any date in the rest of the month in same manner 
such as 2/28 same result, 2016-02-28 Sun or [2016-02-28 Sun] the year 
and day of the week are advanced. The behavior disappears when I go to 
the next month.


GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (i586-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.5) of 2014-12-19 
on brahms, modified by Debian
Org-mode version 8.3beta (release_8.3beta-806-g0be849 @ 
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-mode/lisp/)


Is it intended that only the shift + arrow keys be used during the 
current month?


Charlie Millar

Re: [O] How to include time when generating timestamp for DEADLINE/SCHEDULE

[Charles Millar]

On 02/12/2015 07:37 PM, Yuri Niyazov wrote:

PS It is clear that you can *both* select the correct date using
calendar, and *then* type in the time while still in the calendar
selector, right?

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Yuri Niyazov yuri.niya...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Subhan Michael Tindall
subh...@familycareinc.org wrote:

Not really an acceptable answer. Having to use 2 different interface methods to 
fill in one time/date stamp value is confusing and cludgy. Plus, if you type in 
a full time/date stamp + time, you can still move around in the calendar, but 
it doesn't update the selected datestamp in yellow.  Also confusing.

Cludgy is in the eye of the beholder. I am hugely bothered by various
inconsistencies in org-mode user interface (see my other posts to this
list) but this one is very far down on the list. This is why:

When I need to schedule a date, it is sufficiently close to today's
date that it is usually 2-3 S+ARROWS keystrokes away from today, so
the calendar with today selected as default is great.

So, let's see how a time selector would work:

When you bring up a time selector, it could by default show one of the
following three options:

1) The current time
2) The last time you selected when you used the time selector
3) Some default configurable time like noon

When I need to schedule a time for an event, the time that something
needs to happen is usually not related to any times on that list, so
using S+ARROWS would be less efficient than typing out the time, which
is at most four keystrokes if its on the hour. (E.g. 10pm ). Of
course, this is only true if you are a touch-typist.



Why bother with the arrow keys at all? I have a capture template for 
appointments and deadlines which requests date and time. Calendar is 
called. Rather than arrow keys I type the datespacetime (optional 
duration) and then enter - e.g. call the template, then 2/28 13:30 (and 
then enter the rest of template requests such as 'What has to be done


Charlie Millar

Charlie Millar

Re: [O] How to include time when generating timestamp for DEADLINE/SCHEDULE

[Charles Millar]

On 02/13/2015 08:14 AM, Charles Millar wrote:


On 02/12/2015 07:37 PM, Yuri Niyazov wrote:

PS It is clear that you can *both* select the correct date using
calendar, and *then* type in the time while still in the calendar
selector, right?

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Yuri Niyazov 
yuri.niya...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Subhan Michael Tindall
subh...@familycareinc.org wrote:
Not really an acceptable answer. Having to use 2 different 
interface methods to fill in one time/date stamp value is confusing 
and cludgy. Plus, if you type in a full time/date stamp + time, you 
can still move around in the calendar, but it doesn't update the 
selected datestamp in yellow.  Also confusing.

Cludgy is in the eye of the beholder. I am hugely bothered by various
inconsistencies in org-mode user interface (see my other posts to this
list) but this one is very far down on the list. This is why:

When I need to schedule a date, it is sufficiently close to today's
date that it is usually 2-3 S+ARROWS keystrokes away from today, so
the calendar with today selected as default is great.

So, let's see how a time selector would work:

When you bring up a time selector, it could by default show one of the
following three options:

1) The current time
2) The last time you selected when you used the time selector
3) Some default configurable time like noon

When I need to schedule a time for an event, the time that something
needs to happen is usually not related to any times on that list, so
using S+ARROWS would be less efficient than typing out the time, which
is at most four keystrokes if its on the hour. (E.g. 10pm ). Of
course, this is only true if you are a touch-typist.



Why bother with the arrow keys at all? I have a capture template for 
appointments and deadlines which requests date and time. Calendar is 
called. Rather than arrow keys I type the datespacetime (optional 
duration) and then enter - e.g. call the template, then 2/28 13:30 
(and then enter the rest of template requests such as 'What has to be 
done


Charlie Millar

Forgot to mention that with the deadline I also might enter a lead time

Re: [O] Is it possible to implement a TARGET date in addition to SCHEDULED and DEADLINE?

[Charles Millar]

Hi Martin,

On 03/28/2015 12:28 AM, M wrote:

I wonder how difficult it would be to add a 3rd TARGET date to
headings/tasks, which is treated similar to Deadline and Scheduled dates
(can be used in agenda, can be easily set and modified, ...) :

example:

* TODO [#A] My org-mode task
TARGET: 2015-04-01 Mi SCHEDULED: 2015-03-30 Mo


Maybe something like this in your .emacs or init.el? I just added the 
target dates entry; good idea!


;;; Added the following on 2013-08-11; used Sacha Chua's code
;;; for ledger entries as a template
;;; intended for different TODO type of entries

(setq org-capture-templates

;;; tasks todo on a specific date, not appointments
  (append '((t Todo entries)
(ts Scheduled entry
 (file ~/Data/Emacs-Files/Org-Files/Bucket.org)
 * TODO %?%^{What do you want to do?} %i\ SCHEDULED: 
%^{enter a timestamp}t\n\t:OTHERINFO:\n\t\t%^{Enter other pertinent 
info} %i\n\t:END:\n\t\tDate Entered %U\n

 :empty-lines 1)

;; tasks wtih a target date
(tt Target dates entry
 (file ~Data/Emacs-Files/Org-Files/Bucket.org)
 * TODO %?%^{What do you want to do?} %i\ TARGET-DATE: 
%^{enter a timestamp}t\n\t:OTHERINFO:\n\t\t%^{Enter other pertinent 
info} %i\n\t:END:\n\t\tDate Entered %U\n

 :empty-lines 1)


;; tasks with definite deadlines
(td Deadline entry
 (file ~/Data/Emacs-Files/Org-Files/Bucket.org)
 * TODO %?%^{What do you want to do?} %i\ DEADLINE: 
%^{enter a timestamp}t\n\t:OTHERINFO:\n\t\t%^{Enter other pertinent 
info} %i\n\t:END:\n\t\tDate Entered %U\n

 :empty-lines 1)

;; plain vanilla task todo's
(tt PlainTODO entry
 (file ~/Data/Emacs-Files/Org-Files/Bucket.org)
 * TODO %?%^{What do you want to do?} %i\ %^{enter a 
timestamp}t\n\t:OTHERINFO:\n\t\t%^{Enter other pertinent info} 
%i\n\t:END:\n\t\tDate Entered %U\n

 :empty-lines 1))


  org-capture-templates))

Regards,

Charlie Millar

[O] Emacs-Orgmode Archive search fails

[Charles Millar]

It has been a while since I searched the mailing list archives. Did I 
miss an announcement or is the search engine broken?


For the past few days, any search request in the mailing list archives 
either yields no result or just one and the same result - Citations, 
continued, etc. /archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2015-02/msg00028.html 
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2015-02/msg00028.html 
(7,961 bytes)


This occurs on both Debian and Windows 7 machine.

Charlie Millar

Re: [O] Emacs-Orgmode Archive search fails

[Charles Millar]

On 04/03/2015 10:11 AM, Nick Dokos wrote:

Charles Millar mill...@verizon.net writes:


It has been a while since I searched the mailing list archives. Did I
miss an announcement or is the search engine broken?

For the past few days, any search request in the mailing list archives
either yields no result or just one and the same result - Citations,
continued, etc. /archive/html/ emacs-orgmode/2015-02/msg00028.html
(7,961 bytes)

This occurs on both Debian and Windows 7 machine.


I tried a simple search through Gnus search on the newsgroup (G G)
and on the web page http://news.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode. Both
succeeded, so whatever it was seems to have been fixed.


My searches on gmane.emacs.emacs succeeded,

In the past, when the search engine failed (and it has failed a couple
of times), a message to LarsI with the details of the failure has been
enough to get things going again (sometimes with a couple of days
delay).
Unfortunately searches on the orgmode list still fail. I will do as you 
suggest.


Thanks, Nick

Charlie

[O] ob-rec.el

[Charles Millar]

It appears that ob-rec.el is in org-mode - somewhere - because when I 
evaluate


#+begin_src rec :data Testrec2.rec

#+end_src

the output in the is

no org-babel execute function for rec

However once I add (rec . t) to my org-babel-load-languages and restart 
emacs and then evaluate the block, etc.


#+begin_src rec :data Testrec2.rec

#+end_src

#+RESULTS:
| %Bar| %Baz|
|--+---|
| entrybar1 | entrybaz1 |
| entrybar2 | entrybaz2 |

So first question - where is ob-rec.el in org-mode?

Second - should rec-utils be added as a supported language or should 
some reference be made so that users know to add (rec . t) to their 
org-babel-load-languages, if so desired?


Charlie

Re: [O] ob-rec.el

[Charles Millar]

On 05/15/2015 11:07 PM, Nick Dokos wrote:

Charles Millar mill...@verizon.net writes:


It appears that ob-rec.el is in org-mode - somewhere - because when I
evaluate

#+begin_src rec :data Testrec2.rec

#+end_src


the output in the is

no org-babel execute function for rec

However once I add (rec . t) to my org-babel-load-languages and restart
emacs and then evaluate the block, etc.

#+begin_src rec :data Testrec2.rec

#+end_src

#+RESULTS:
| %Bar| %Baz|
|--+---|
| entrybar1 | entrybaz1 |
| entrybar2 | entrybaz2 |

So first question - where is ob-rec.el in org-mode?


M-x locate-library RET ob-rec RET

In my case, ob-rec was not present (but see below).



Second - should rec-utils be added as a supported language or should
some reference be made so that users know to add (rec . t) to their
org-babel-load-languages, if so desired?


I downloaded recutils-1.7.tar.gz from http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/recutils/
and, after unpacking it, found rec-mode.el and ob-rec.el in the etc/
subdirectory of the unpacked tarball.


Thanks Nick. For me it ob-rec.el is hiding in plain sight - it is in my 
emacs/site-lisp directory by itself since I unpacked the tarball in that 
directory.Per your instruction, I used M-x locate-library and there it 
was and is.



Maybe you can add a pointer to where to get it (and a few words about
what it does) to

http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/languages.html

on Worg. N.B. the language should be rec, not rec-utils.

I would like to give it a shot however I believe that Jose Marchesi the 
person for this.


Charlie

[O] Appears that org-mode 8.3 breaks org-collector.el

[Charles Millar]

I have just started using org-collector so . . .

org-collector works as expected using

GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (i586-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.5)
of 2015-03-07 on binet, modified by Debian
Org: 8.2.10 release_8.2.10

but fails if

GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (i586-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.5)
of 2015-03-07 on binet, modified by Debian
Org: 8.3beta release_8.3beta-1030-g65bbb1

As I reported yesterday my first attempt to use collector was using 
8.3beta, etc.


When using the 8.3beta release, I evaluated the example downloaded from
orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-collector-example.html 
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-collector-example.html
All columns except ITEM evaluated to the default error. The ITEM column 
does evaluate as expected.


I (usually) download daily the recent org-mode version from git to my 
directory at /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-mode.
In my .emacs I commented out (add-to-list 'load-path 
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-mode/lisp)

and left
(add-to-list 'load-path /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-mode/contrib/lisp)

org-collector worked as expected,without the 8.3 beta version. (8.2.10 
was loaded by default)


As an exercise I searched ORG-NEWS 8.3 and 8.2 for collector, table, 
orgtbl, dblock. Having just started to learn emacs lisp I had no idea if 
any changes mentioned would have affected org-collector.


Thanks for listening.

Charlie Millar

Re: [O] Appears that org-mode 8.3 breaks org-collector.el

[Charles Millar]

Did the recent property drawer syntax changes ahve anything to do with this?

On 04/18/2015 08:59 AM, Charles Millar wrote:

I have just started using org-collector so . . .

org-collector works as expected using

GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (i586-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.5)
of 2015-03-07 on binet, modified by Debian
Org: 8.2.10 release_8.2.10

but fails if

GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (i586-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.5)
of 2015-03-07 on binet, modified by Debian
Org: 8.3beta release_8.3beta-1030-g65bbb1

As I reported yesterday my first attempt to use collector was using 
8.3beta, etc.


When using the 8.3beta release, I evaluated the example downloaded from
orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-collector-example.html 
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-collector-example.html
All columns except ITEM evaluated to the default error. The ITEM 
column does evaluate as expected.


I (usually) download daily the recent org-mode version from git to my 
directory at /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-mode.
In my .emacs I commented out (add-to-list 'load-path 
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-mode/lisp)

and left
(add-to-list 'load-path 
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-mode/contrib/lisp)


org-collector worked as expected,without the 8.3 beta version. (8.2.10 
was loaded by default)


As an exercise I searched ORG-NEWS 8.3 and 8.2 for collector, table, 
orgtbl, dblock. Having just started to learn emacs lisp I had no idea 
if any changes mentioned would have affected org-collector.


Thanks for listening.

Charlie Millar

Re: [O] org-collector bug

[Charles Millar]

Spoke too soon. Went to a terminal, loaded emacs -q and then loaded 
org-ocllector.el. It worked as advertised. Then loaded emacs 
(normally) and org-collector.el did not yield expected results,


So I will check my .emacs

Charlie Millar

On 04/17/2015 06:43 PM, Charles Millar wrote:
I have attempted to use org-collector. Each time, including the 
example at
[Search domain orgmode.org] 
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=org%2Dcollector%20worg+site:orgmode.orgorgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-collector-example.html 
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-collector-example.html
all columns except ITEM evaluate to the default error. The ITEM column 
does evaluate as expected.


GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (i586-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.5)
of 2015-03-07 on binet, modified by Debian

Org: 8.3beta release_8.3beta-1030-g65bbb1

Charlie Millar

[O] org-collector bug

[Charles Millar]

I have attempted to use org-collector. Each time, including the example at
[Search domain orgmode.org] 
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=org%2Dcollector%20worg+site:orgmode.orgorgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-collector-example.html 
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-collector-example.html
all columns except ITEM evaluate to the default error. The ITEM column 
does evaluate as expected.


GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (i586-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.5)
of 2015-03-07 on binet, modified by Debian

Org: 8.3beta release_8.3beta-1030-g65bbb1

Charlie Millar

Re: [O] [feature request] org-capture-window-setup to stop capture window taking up whole frame

[Charles Millar]

Hi,

On 06/08/2015 11:23 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote:

Hello,

as monitors get bigger and bigger, I tend to have lots of (emacs)
windows in a frame.  No matter how many I have, org-capture takes over
the whole frame which is kind of wasteful.  Obviously, I can bring up
any buffer I want while in the capture buffer but it would be nice to
have control over where and how the capture window is created and
placed, along the lines of org-src-window-setup and
org-agenda-window-setup.

That would be nice! Eric, thanks for bringing this up.


Would such a feature be possible, assuming it is not there already.  I
have not found the correct variable should it already be there...

Thanks,
eric


Charlie Millar

[O] help for summing column when exporting table

[Charles Millar]

How do you execute

#+TBLFM: @$='(apply '+ '(@I$..@$));N%.2f

while the following is being exported to LaTeX/pdf

begin

#+LATEX_CLASS: mysetup
#+LaTeX: \setlength{\extrarowheight}{1.0ex}

#+LaTeX: \begin{center}
#+LaTeX: \textbf{SCHEDULE A}\\
#+LaTeX: \textbf{PRINCIPAL RECEIVED}
#+LaTeX: \end{center}
#+BEGIN_LaTeX
\vspace{-10.0ex}
#+END_LaTeX

#+NAME: SCHEDA
#+begin_src rec :data foo.rec :type Finance :fields 
AssetDate,Description,Basis

 AccountSchedule = A
#+end_src

#+ATTR_LATEX: :environment longtable :align p{60pt}p{315pt}N{8}{2}
#+TBLNAME: SCHEDA
#+TBLFM: @$='(apply '+ '(@I$..@$));N%.2f

end

the table is generated from a recutils file and there are approximately 
16 other tables which are generated using essentially the same format 
(AccountSchedule= is different in each one), and some may be five or six 
columns rather than three. When I export to the pdf all the tables 
exported, except that the total is not executed before export. The 
SCHEDDA table, as shown in the .org file is


#+NAME: SCHEDA
#+begin_src rec :data foo.rec :type Finance :fields 
AssetDate,Description,Basis

 AccountSchedule = A
#+end_src
#+ATTR_LATEX: :environment longtable :align p{60pt}p{315pt}N{8}{2}
#+TBLNAME: SCHEDA
|  AssetDate | Description  | Basis |
|+--+---|
| 2015-12-15 |    | 385162.27 |
| 2015-12-15 | yy |   99962.29 |
| 2015-12-15 | z  | 108185.37 |
|| Total   |   |
#+TBLFM: @$='(apply '+ '(@I$..@$));N%.2f


I believe that executing emacs lisp table formula (rather than the 
org-calc #+TBLFM: @$=vsum(@I$..@$);%.2f) may be the way to go 
and that a separate src block may be needed such as


#+NAME: schedtotal
#+begin_src emacs-lisp :results silent
(defun schedtotal ()
  (#+TBLFM: @$='(apply '+ '(@I$..@$));N%.2f))
#+end_src

for execution using :post schedtotal  in the header, so that once the 
table is generated the :post schedtotal will sum the last column and 
then the subtree will be exported with each table and its last column added.


I am attempting to learn emacs lisp and I have tried the above 
schedtotal, but the # is a problem; if you remove that then the ; may be 
problem since everything after that is a comment.


Any help as well as solution will be greatly appreciated.

Charlie Millar

[O] evaluate TBLFM

[Charles Millar]

Hi,

I am learning how to use org-babel and want to export (LaTeX) a table 
with the final column added at final row, which should be inserted. The 
entire process would take place upon exporting to LaTeX/pdf


Desired result (roughly speaking)

| date | Description | Amount|
|||---|
| 6-7   | blah| 1.00  |
| 6-8   | blah blah|2.00   |
| ||3.00| (this row to be 
inserted and then column 3 added) (Also nice if a hline were inserted 
before the last row)


The table is generated from a recutils data base and essentially this is 
the set up



#+Name: ATable
#+begin_src rec data: Foo.rec :type Bar :fields date,Description,Amount
#+end_src

#+TBLNAME: ATable
#+TBLFM: @$=vsum(@I$..@$);%.2f

I have read Using Code Blocks in Org Tables in the Worg Babel 
Introduction and searched the lists and am not sure of how to implement 
this.


At the moment I am more interested in solving the column sum problem; i 
can kludge an  added row using a dummy record in the database.


Charlie Millar

[O] Evaluate TBLFM in babel export to LaTeX (reposted)

[Charles Millar]

Posted this request for assistance with an incomplete subject line

Hi,

I am learning how to use org-babel and want to export (LaTeX) a table 
with the final column added at final row, which should be inserted. The 
entire process would take place upon exporting to LaTeX/pdf


Desired result (roughly speaking)

| date | Description | Amount|
|||---|
| 6-7   | blah| 1.00  |
| 6-8   | blah blah|2.00   |
| ||3.00| (this row to be 
inserted and then column 3 added) (Also nice if a hline were inserted 
before the last row)


The table is generated from a recutils data base and essentially this is 
the set up



#+Name: ATable
#+begin_src rec data: Foo.rec :type Bar :fields date,Description,Amount
#+end_src

#+TBLNAME: ATable
#+TBLFM: @$=vsum(@I$..@$);%.2f

I have read Using Code Blocks in Org Tables in the Worg Babel 
Introduction and searched the lists and am not sure of how to implement 
this.


At the moment I am more interested in solving the column sum problem; i 
can kludge an  added row using a dummy record in the database.


Charlie Millar

Re: [O] Evaluate TBLFM in babel export to LaTeX (reposted)

[Charles Millar]

I just realized that I misread org-sbe as org-she (as in shebang); so of 
course my search for org-she yielded no results; now on to org-sbe


Charluie Millar

On 06/11/2015 05:11 PM, Charles Millar wrote:

Posted this request for assistance with an incomplete subject line

Hi,

I am learning how to use org-babel and want to export (LaTeX) a table 
with the final column added at final row, which should be inserted. 
The entire process would take place upon exporting to LaTeX/pdf


Desired result (roughly speaking)

| date | Description | Amount|
|||---|
| 6-7   | blah| 1.00  |
| 6-8   | blah blah|2.00   |
| ||3.00| (this row to be 
inserted and then column 3 added) (Also nice if a hline were inserted 
before the last row)


The table is generated from a recutils data base and essentially this 
is the set up



#+Name: ATable
#+begin_src rec data: Foo.rec :type Bar :fields date,Description,Amount
#+end_src

#+TBLNAME: ATable
#+TBLFM: @$=vsum(@I$..@$);%.2f

I have read Using Code Blocks in Org Tables in the Worg Babel 
Introduction and searched the lists and am not sure of how to 
implement this.


At the moment I am more interested in solving the column sum problem; 
i can kludge an  added row using a dummy record in the database.


Charlie Millar

[O] [BUG] org-collector.el broken by 8.3 beta

[Charles Millar]

Not sure if I should have reported this again sooner than this.

As I reported on April 18th

org-collector works as expected using

GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (i586-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.5)
of 2015-03-07 on binet, modified by Debian
Org: 8.2.10 release_8.2.10

but fails if

GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (i586-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.5)
of 2015-03-07 on binet, modified by Debian
Org: 8.3beta release_8.3beta-1030-g65bbb1

now version

Org-mode version 8.3beta release_8.3beta-1191-g9e1591

Re: [O] Org keymap question

[Charles Millar]

On 07/04/2015 10:56 AM, Alan wrote:

Function orgtbl-setup (in lisp/org/org-table.el.gz, where my Emacs is GNU Emacs 24.5.1 
(x86_64-apple-darwin13.4.0, NS apple-appkit-1265.21) of 2015-04-10 on builder10-9.porkrind.org) has a number of key 
bindings that seem to get defined in minor mode orgtbl-mode, but don't get defined when using Org (as in 
editing a file that has extension .org).

My first use of Org was in creating a table of information.  I used the Org Mode Manual (Info node 
org on my distribution) as a guide.  In node (org) Built-in table editor some of 
these missing keymap definitions are listed.  The one of interest to me was 
org-table-insert-column.  I didn't find it bound to any key and wondered why isn't it bound.

So, my question is why isn't e.g. org-table-insert-colunn bound to a key when using 
Org?  And why does the Info manual suggest that such a key binding exists, without qualification?  
That function (and others) can be found in a keymap--as described above--but that binding seems to 
be reserved for minor mode orgtbl-mode (invoking that mode when in Org is not allowed).


Is this what you are looking for

shift-alt-rightarrrow

to insert column?

likewise shift-alt-leftarrow removes a column

Also org has a list

emacs-orgmode@gnu.org

Re: [O] Clocktable feature requests

[Charles Millar]

Hi Dan,

Maybe Tom Marble's timesheet..el is what you are looking for

https://github.com/tmarble/timesheet.el

As I recall if was discussed on this list awhile ago. Also see his 
interview with Sacha Chua's interview with Tom


http://emacslife.com/emacs-chats/chat-tom-marble.html

Hate to say this, but I still haven't tried it myself.


Charlie Millar
On 07/06/2015 12:05 PM, Daniel E. Doherty wrote:

I typically keep a list of tasks I'm working on in a subtree that is
simply a bunch of subheads that describe the task, like so:

,
| * Time Records
| ** Review filings for Johnson--Morgan
| CLOCK: [2014-08-27 Wed 09:13]--[2014-08-27 Wed 12:20] =  3:07
| ** Discussion with Smith re Johnson possible violation
| CLOCK: [2014-08-27 Wed 10:35]--[2014-08-27 Wed 10:55] =  0:20
| ** Prepare and send demand letter for Johnson
| CLOCK: [2014-08-28 Mon 11:18]--[2014-08-28 Thu 12:20] =  1:02
| ** Forward summary to Smith following on discussion
| CLOCK: [2014-08-29 Fri 09:35]--[2014-08-29 Fri 09:45] =  0:10
| ** Receive and review letter from Willy Wonka re demand
| CLOCK: [2014-09-11 Thu 09:38]--[2014-09-11 Thu 10:39] =  1:01
| ** Prepare reply to Wonka response letter
| CLOCK: [2014-09-11 Thu 10:40]--[2014-09-11 Thu 11:30] =  0:50
`

I clock in and out of tasks as I work on them.  There is typically no
'SCEDULED' or 'DEADLINE' associated with the tasks.

I would like to produce a clocktable that works as a passible bill.

There are two things that make this difficult:

1. I would like the clocktable to have a column that indicates the date on
which the activity took place.

2. I would like the an optional 'Rate' and 'Charge' columns to be added

As to 1:

The timestamp feature almost takes care of 1, except that it will not use the
CLOCK property to set the timestamp.  Using the date (optional time) at which
the CLOCK started would work as a good timestamp, and probably better than
something like the SCHEDULED or DEADLINE.  If the purpose is to indicate when
the activity occurred, it would seem that the best order for picking the time
stamp would be something like TIMESTAMP, TIMESTAMP_IA, CLOCK (begin),
SCHEDULED, then DEADLINE, that is from more specific to more general.

As to 2:

With an option like :rate set to, say, 50, the time column could be converted
to dollars (or whatever currency) at rate * hours.  It would also be nice to
have that amount summed in the same way that time is summed by levels now.

With those items added, the clocktable would be usable as a billing
mechanism.  As it is now, it makes a nice start, but requires a lot of
massaging to turn a clocktable into an invoice.

Any chance of getting these features added?

Dan Doherty

Re: [O] Emacs-Orgmode Archive search fails

[Charles Millar]

On 08/04/2015 08:00 PM, Bastien Guerry wrote:

Hi Charles,

Charles Millar mill...@verizon.net writes:


It has been a while since I searched the mailing list archives. Did I
miss an announcement or is the search engine broken?

Did you get any answer by Lars on this?

Thanks,


No.

I just tried the mail list archive search again with simply latex and 
LaTeX and still the one and only result is to a February 2015 message. 
Other similar simple searches yield nothing.


Charlie

Re: [O] evaluate TBLFM

[Charles Millar]

FWIW, the code in Miguel Ruiz's post earlier today

TBLFM added to updated table as result of a emacs-lisp src block

has pretty much answered my questions. Thank you, Miguel.

I'm not sure if it the most efficient or even elegant but here is what I 
came up with, so please comment and correct if there is a better way


#+Name: ATableP
#+begin_src rec data: Foo.rec :type Bar :fields date,Description,Amount 
:results silent

#+end_src
#+TBLNAME: ATable
src emacs-lisp :var table=ATableP :exports results
  (setq table (cons 'hline table))
  (setq table (cons '(Date Description Inventory) table))
  (setq table (append table '((|Total
  (setq table (append table '((\n#+TBLFM: 
@$=vsum(@I$..@$);%.2f::

  table
#+end_src
#+ATTR_LATEX: :environment longtable :align p{60pt}p{280pt}N{8}{2}
#+TBLNAME: SCHEDA
| date | Description | Amount| (resulting table, after C-c C-v s)
|||---|
| 6-7   | blah| 1.00  |
| 6-8   | blah blah|2.00   |
| | Total   |3.00|


On 06/11/2015 03:45 PM, Charles Millar wrote:

Hi,

I am learning how to use org-babel and want to export (LaTeX) a table 
with the final column added at final row, which should be inserted. 
The entire process would take place upon exporting to LaTeX/pdf


Desired result (roughly speaking)

| date | Description | Amount|
|||---|
| 6-7   | blah| 1.00  |
| 6-8   | blah blah|2.00   |
| ||3.00| (this row to be 
inserted and then column 3 added) (Also nice if a hline were inserted 
before the last row)


The table is generated from a recutils data base and essentially this 
is the set up



#+Name: ATable
#+begin_src rec data: Foo.rec :type Bar :fields date,Description,Amount
#+end_src

#+TBLNAME: ATable
#+TBLFM: @$=vsum(@I$..@$);%.2f

I have read Using Code Blocks in Org Tables in the Worg Babel 
Introduction and searched the lists and am not sure of how to 
implement this.


At the moment I am more interested in solving the column sum problem; 
i can kludge an  added row using a dummy record in the database.


Charlie Millar

Re: [O] Infinite loop using :post header argument that calls a emacs-lisp src block

[Charles Millar]

I neglected to mention that the elisp code is based on Miguel Ruiz's 
post to this list earlier today.


On 07/30/2015 09:49 PM, Charles Millar wrote:
emacs version GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 
3.10.7) of 2014-03-07 on lamiak, modified by Debian
Org-mode version 8.3beta (release_8.3beta-1302-g00142f @ 
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-mode/lisp/)


the following produces a table with header, hline, a row with TOTAl 
and #+TBLFM immediately after the table


#+NAME: SCHEDAP
#+begin_src rec :data foo.rec :type bar :fields 
AssetDate,Description,Basis :results silent

 (some recutils sexes)
#+end_src
#+NAME: SCHEDA
#+begin_src emacs-lisp :var table=SCHEDAP :export results
  (setq table (cons 'hline table))
  (setq table (cons '(Date Description Basis) table))
  (setq table (append table '((|Total
  (setq table (append table '((\n#+TBLFM: 
@$=vsum(@I$..@$);%.2f::

  table
#+end_src
#+TBLNAME: SCHEDA

What I would like to use is

#+NAME: insertstuff
#+begin_src emacs-lisp :var table=() :results silent
  (setq table (cons 'hline table))
  (setq table (cons '(Date Description Basis) table))
  (setq table (append table '((|Total
  (setq table (append table '((\n#+TBLFM: 
@$=vsum(@I$..@$);%.2f::

  table
#+end_src


#+NAME: SCHEDA
#+begin_src rec :data foo.rec :type bar :fields 
AssetDate,Description,Basis :post insertstuff :var table=SCHEDA

 (some recutils sexes)
#+end_src
#+TBLNAME: SCHEDA

which results in an infinite loop, or so it appears.

What am I missing? Or, is the first example my only choice?

Charlie Millar

[O] Infinite loop using :post header argument that calls a emacs-lisp src block

[Charles Millar]

emacs version GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 
3.10.7) of 2014-03-07 on lamiak, modified by Debian
Org-mode version 8.3beta (release_8.3beta-1302-g00142f @ 
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-mode/lisp/)


the following produces a table with header, hline, a row with TOTAl and 
#+TBLFM immediately after the table


#+NAME: SCHEDAP
#+begin_src rec :data foo.rec :type bar :fields 
AssetDate,Description,Basis :results silent

 (some recutils sexes)
#+end_src
#+NAME: SCHEDA
#+begin_src emacs-lisp :var table=SCHEDAP :export results
  (setq table (cons 'hline table))
  (setq table (cons '(Date Description Basis) table))
  (setq table (append table '((|Total
  (setq table (append table '((\n#+TBLFM: 
@$=vsum(@I$..@$);%.2f::

  table
#+end_src
#+TBLNAME: SCHEDA

What I would like to use is

#+NAME: insertstuff
#+begin_src emacs-lisp :var table=() :results silent
  (setq table (cons 'hline table))
  (setq table (cons '(Date Description Basis) table))
  (setq table (append table '((|Total
  (setq table (append table '((\n#+TBLFM: 
@$=vsum(@I$..@$);%.2f::

  table
#+end_src


#+NAME: SCHEDA
#+begin_src rec :data foo.rec :type bar :fields 
AssetDate,Description,Basis :post insertstuff :var table=SCHEDA

 (some recutils sexes)
#+end_src
#+TBLNAME: SCHEDA

which results in an infinite loop, or so it appears.

What am I missing? Or, is the first example my only choice?

Charlie Millar

Re: [O] [BUG] org-collector.el broken by 8.3 beta

[Charles Millar]

Hi Bastien,
On 08/04/2015 08:01 PM, Bastien Guerry wrote:

Hi Charles,

Charles Millar mill...@verizon.net writes:


org-collector works as expected using

GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (i586-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.5)
of 2015-03-07 on binet, modified by Debian
Org: 8.2.10 release_8.2.10

but fails if

GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (i586-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.5)
of 2015-03-07 on binet, modified by Debian
Org: 8.3beta release_8.3beta-1030-g65bbb1

Can you be more specific on the kind of failure do you have?


To start off -

Linux Mint Mate 17.1

GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.10.7) of 
2014-03-07 on lamiak, modified by Debian


Org-mode version 8.3.1 (release_8.3.1-1-gb5f5d6.dirty @ 
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-mode/lisp/)


If I copy the code blocks that are in Eric's explanation at

http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-collector.html

into my org-collector-example.org file and then evaluate (execute?) the 
src blocks the results are


#+BEGIN: propview :id december :conds ((string= spendtype food)) 
:cols (ITEM amount)

| ITEM | amount |
|--+|
|--+|
|  ||
#+END:

#+BEGIN: propview :cols (ITEM (+ 400 amount)) :scope tree :match example
| ITEM  | (+ 400 amount) |
|---+|
| ** December Spending|  0 |
| *** Week One|  0 |
|  Grocery Store [2008-12-01 Mon] |  0 |
|  Athletic club [2008-12-02 Tue] |  0 |
| *** Week Two|  0 |
|  Restaurant [2008-12-08 Mon]|  0 |
|---+|
|   ||
#+END:

This happens both in Lint mate 17.1 environment as well as in terminal 
if simply load emacs, i.e. click on the icon, call emacs in the command 
line, etc.


On the other hand if I go to a terminal and load emacs -q and then load 
org-collector.org I get the expected results, i.e.


#+BEGIN: propview :id december :conds ((string= spendtype food)) 
:cols (ITEM amount)

| ITEM | amount |
|--+|
| Grocery Store [2008-12-01 Mon] |  56.77 |
| Restaurant [2008-12-08 Mon]|  30.67 |
|--+|
|  ||
#+END:

#+BEGIN: propview :cols (ITEM (+ 400 amount)) :scope tree :match example
| ITEM | (+ 400 amount) |
|--+|
| December Spending  |  0 |
| Week One   |  0 |
| Grocery Store [2008-12-01 Mon] | 456.77 |
| Athletic club [2008-12-02 Tue] |  475.0 |
| Week Two   |  0 |
| Restaurant [2008-12-08 Mon]| 430.67 |
|--+|
|  ||
#+END:

Just in case I attach a copy of my init file which is a mess.

Also, version 8.2.10 appears to have no problem.

Charlie
;;; Started 2014-10-26 /home/charlie00
 GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.12.2) of 2014-06-06 on babin, modified by Debian
 Org-mode version 8.3beta (release_8.3beta-482-g926553 @ /usr/share/emacs/24.3/site-lisp/org-mode/lisp/)

;;; Look for .customs.emacs file and load it if found

;(if ~/.emacs-w3m.el
;(load ~/.emacs-w3m.el t t))

(if ~/.customs.emacs 
(load ~/.customs.emacs t t))

;;; Art: added with v. 23.1 to make spacebar complete filenames (8/17/2009)
;;; may be from Brendt or Adams, can't recall
(progn
 (define-key minibuffer-local-completion-map   'minibuffer-complete-word)
 (define-key minibuffer-local-filename-completion-map   'minibuffer-complete-word)
 (define-key minibuffer-local-must-match-filename-map   'minibuffer-complete-word)) 

;;; Art: added with v. 23.1
;;; Set env variable this way?  I used the traditional way instead
;(info (emacs) Windows HOME)

;;; turn off the menu, tool and scroll bars
(menu-bar-mode -1)
(tool-bar-mode -1)
(scroll-bar-mode -1)

;;; display column information in mode line
(column-number-mode t)

;;; show size of the buffer
(size-indication-mode t)

;;; display time in 24 hour mode
(display-time)
(setq display-time-24hr-format t)

;;; display battery charge
(setq display-battery-mode t)

;;; no blinking cursor
(setq blink-cursor-mode t)

;;; turn off transient mode mark - my option
(setq transient-mark-mode nil)

;;; turn on word wrap for all modes
;(global-visual-line-mode nil)

;;; enable narrow to region
(put 'narrow-to-region 'disabled nil)

;;; increase recursion depth
(setq max-specpdl-size 1)
(setq max-lisp-eval-depth 1)
(setq debug-on-error t)
;;; New bell/warning sound (from emacs wiki)
;(setq ring-bell-function (lambda ()
;			   (call-process Windows Media Player nil 0 nil 
; c:\\Windows

[O] library-of-babel location

[Charles Millar]

From the org manual

14.6 Library of Babel
* * * *
The central repository of code blocks in the “Library of Babel” is 
housed in an Org mode

file located in the ‘contrib’ directory of Org mode.

However (at least in my case, Org-mode version 8.2.10 and also Org-mode 
version 8.3beta (release_8.3beta-1316-ga70604)


the lob is located in the 'doc' directory

/path/to/org-mode/doc/library-of-babel.org

So should the does the manual need updating or correction?

Charlie Millar

Re: [O] evaluate TBLFM

[Charles Millar]

Hi Grant,

On 07/21/2015 09:28 AM, Grant Rettke wrote:

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Charles Millar mill...@verizon.net wrote:

I am learning how to use org-babel and want to export (LaTeX) a table with
the final column added at final row, which should be inserted. The entire
process would take place upon exporting to LaTeX/pdf

Desired result (roughly speaking)

| date | Description | Amount|
|||---|
| 6-7   | blah| 1.00  |
| 6-8   | blah blah|2.00   |
| ||3.00| (this row to be inserted
and then column 3 added) (Also nice if a hline were inserted before the last
row)

The table is generated from a recutils data base and essentially this is the
set up


#+Name: ATable
#+begin_src rec data: Foo.rec :type Bar :fields date,Description,Amount
#+end_src

#+TBLNAME: ATable
#+TBLFM: @$=vsum(@I$..@$);%.2f

I have read Using Code Blocks in Org Tables in the Worg Babel Introduction
and searched the lists and am not sure of how to implement this.

I'm not sure what you are trying to perform with this code. That
probably says more about me than you.

Are you loading the contents of a recfile into an Org-Mode table and
them performing a manipulation on that table? Is that what you want to
do? You said that you are not sure how to implement this and I am not
sure what precisely you want to implement.

By the time I arrived at the end of my message the question was vague - 
very vague!


I have no trouble generating a table using the a src block from a 
recutils file

#+Name: ATable
#+begin_src rec data: Foo.rec :type Bar :fields date,Description,Amount
#+end_src
#+TBLNAME: ATable

results in

#+Name: ATable
#+begin_src rec data: Foo.rec :type Bar :fields date,Description,Amount
#+end_src
#+TBLNAME: ATable
| date   | Description | Amount |
||-||
| 6-7| blah|  1.00  |
| 6-8| blah blah   |  2.00  |

Using code I would like to insert a row after the last row from the recutil file, put the word 
Total in  the last cell in the Description column and in the last cell in 
the Amount column total the cells above.

From what I have read, I think source code at the beginning of the file would 
be possible and then that code would be called using the :post header command

the desired result is

#+Name: ATable
#+begin_src rec data: Foo.rec :type Bar :fields date,Description,Amount 
(possibly wiht :post *this*
#+end_src
#+TBLNAME: ATable
| date   | Description | Amount |
||-||
| 6-7| blah|  1.00  |
| 6-8| blah blah   |  2.00  |
|| Total   |  3.00  |


I want to avoid using the keyboard to modify the table, i.e. go to last row, M-S-down 
to add a row, go to Description column last cell and insert Total and then evaluate 
a
#+TBLFM: @$=vsum(@I$..@$);%.2f
(Eventually there may be as many as twenty different tables; the above is the 
most simple type.)

My knowledge of emacs lisp is only enough to try to figure it out when I see 
the code; all other languages forget about it.

Charlie Millar

[O] Featur request org-table-iterate-table-subtree

[Charles Millar]

Please see the attached example. If I call 
org-table-iterate-buffer-tables, Summary1 and Summary2 both are 
calculated using the referenced tables in heading "first set of tables" 
and the tables in the second heading are disregarded.


Without going into the details there are times when I use certain form 
tables in separate headlines in the same file. The entries are different 
in each and I believe that a function perhaps 
"org-table-iterate-subtree-tables" would be a useful addition to 
org-table.el.


Please note that narrowing the buffer to the second headline does not 
help since the code in org-table-iterate-buffer-tables widens the buffer.


Charlie Millar
* first set of tables

#+TBLNAME: SUMMARY1
| CHARGES|  |   |
| Schedule "A"   | 6.00 |   |
| Schedule "A-1" | 6.00 |   |
| Schedule "A-2" | 6.00 |   |
| total  |  | 18.00 |
#+TBLFM: 
@>$>=vsum(@2$2..@4$2);%.2f::@2$2=remote(SCHEDA,@>$>);%.2f::@3$2=remote(SCHEDA1,@>$>);%.2f::@4$2=remote(SCHEDA2,@>$>);%.2f

#+TBLNAME: SCHEDA
| Description  | Basis |
|--+---|
| Something A  |  1.00 |
| Something else A |  2.00 |
| Another thing A  |  3.00 |
| Total|  6.00 |
#+TBLFM: @>$>=vsum(@I$>..@>>$>);%.2f

#+NAME: SCHEDA1
#+TBLNAME: SCHEDA
| Description| Basis |
|+---|
| Something A-1  |  1,00 |
| Something else A-1 |  2.00 |
| Another thing A-1  |  3.00 |
| Total  |  6.00 |
#+TBLFM: @>$>=vsum(@I$>..@>>$>);%.2f

#+NAME: SCHEDA2
#+TBLNAME: SCHEDA
| Description| Basis |
|+---|
| Something A-2  |  1.00 |
| Something else A-2 |  2.00 |
| Another thing A-2  |  3.00 |
| Total  |  6.00 |
#+TBLFM: @>$>=vsum(@I$>..@>>$>);%.2f


* second set of tables

#+TBLNAME: SUMMARY2
| CHARGES|  |   |
| Schedule "A"   | 6.00 |   |
| Schedule "A-1" | 6.00 |   |
| Schedule "A-2" | 6.00 |   |
| total  |  | 18.00 |
#+TBLFM: 
@>$>=vsum(@2$2..@4$2);%.2f::@2$2=remote(SCHEDA,@>$>);%.2f::@3$2=remote(SCHEDA1,@>$>);%.2f::@4$2=remote(SCHEDA2,@>$>);%.2f

#+TBLNAME: SCHEDA
| Description  | Basis |
|--+---|
| Something A  |  3.00 |
| Something else A |  2.00 |
| Another thing A  |  3.00 |
| Total|  8.00 |
#+TBLFM: @>$>=vsum(@I$>..@>>$>);%.2f

#+NAME: SCHEDA1
#+TBLNAME: SCHEDA
| Description| Basis |
|+---|
| Something A-1  |  3.00 |
| Something else A-1 |  2.00 |
| Another thing A-1  |  3.00 |
| Total  |  8.00 |
#+TBLFM: @>$>=vsum(@I$>..@>>$>);%.2f

#+NAME: SCHEDA2
#+TBLNAME: SCHEDA
| Description| Basis |
|+---|
| Something A-2  |  3.00 |
| Something else A-2 |  2.00 |
| Another thing A-2  |  3.00 |
| Total  |  8.00 |
#+TBLFM: @>$>=vsum(@I$>..@>>$>);%.2f

Re: [O] bug: latex exporter

[Charles Millar]

I see that Rasmus has fixed this. Thank you.

On 09/29/2015 03:00 PM, Rainer M Krug wrote:


Envoyé de mon iPhone


Le 29 sept. 2015 à 11:37, Charles Millar <mill...@verizon.net> a écrit :

Since Monday morning (New York time) I have not been able to export to pdflatex 
(worked OK the night before). Instead the message buffer reads

symbol's value as variable is void - compile

GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.10.7) of 2014-03-07 on 
lamiak, modified by Debian
Org-mode version 8.3.1 (release_8.3.1-283-gf6187d @ 
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-mode/lisp/)


I can confirm this - please see my other post for an example.

Rainer


Charlie Millar

Re: [O] bug: latex exporter

[Charles Millar]

On 10/01/2015 09:07 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote:

Kaushal Modi <kaushal.m...@gmail.com> writes:


It seems as if no one got the email I sent out yesterday, very odd.
On Sep 30, 2015 4:59 PM, "Charles Millar" <mill...@verizon.net> wrote:

This is indeed a twisted and strange thread...

Not only this thread but the list for about two days. At times over 24 
hours elapsed before a message showed up.
It appears that this bug relating to the latex exporter was reported 
three times. According to the dates Rainer Krug first reported it at 
05:11 on Sep 29; before I sent my message (this thread on Sep 29 at 
05:37) ) I checked to see if it had been reported and nothing showed. 
Kushai apparently sent his report a few hours later. AFIK none of these 
were on the list for several hours.


I checked gmane and the org list as well as my email for any replies. I 
discovered that the exporter bug had been fixed when I looked at the 
orgmode git site, so I posted a thank you. Again, at that time I posted, 
nothing on the list reported the fix had been taken care of, although it 
is obvious that two hours before I sent that message Nick and Rasmus had 
posted messages to that effect.


Since this morning everything seems fine.

Above are just observations, nothing more.

Charlie

I see that Rasmus has fixed this. Thank you.

On 09/29/2015 03:00 PM, Rainer M Krug wrote:


Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 29 sept. 2015 à 11:37, Charles Millar <mill...@verizon.net> a écrit :

Since Monday morning (New York time) I have not been able to export to
pdflatex (worked OK the night before). Instead the message buffer reads

symbol's value as variable is void - compile

GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.10.7) of
2014-03-07 on lamiak, modified by Debian
Org-mode version 8.3.1 (release_8.3.1-283-gf6187d @
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-mode/lisp/)

I can confirm this - please see my other post for an example.

Rainer

Charlie Millar

Re: [O] Delays in posting

[Charles Millar]

Hi Nick,

On 10/01/2015 11:57 AM, Nick Dokos wrote:

This is just an FYI.

Over the past couple of days, I've noticed delays in posting.
I posted a couple of things two days ago that didn't show up
until one day later. I believe a couple of other people have
noticed the same thing. I figured that since the posts *did*
show up, the problems were resolved, but another post from this
morning still hasn't shown up four hours later.

I use Gnus/nntp to get to news.gmane.org, not email, so I
believe the problem is with gmane, but this is just a guess.

Nick


It was and just gmane, but also email and the "official" org mail list

Charlie Millar

P.S. Not sure if you have seen my post about this issue that I added to 
the bug latex exporter thread

[O] bug: latex exporter

[Charles Millar]

Since Monday morning (New York time) I have not been able to export to 
pdflatex (worked OK the night before). Instead the message buffer reads


symbol's value as variable is void - compile

GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.10.7) of 
2014-03-07 on lamiak, modified by Debian
Org-mode version 8.3.1 (release_8.3.1-283-gf6187d @ 
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-mode/lisp/)


Charlie Millar

Re: [O] emacs-lisp babel won't print

[Charles Millar]

maybe add :results output to the last block

On 09/25/2015 12:04 PM, Lawrence Bottorff wrote:

#+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp
(setq animals '(gazelle giraffe lion tiger))
#+END_SRC

#+RESULTS:
| gazelle | giraffe | lion | tiger |

and then this

#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(defun print-elements-of-list (list)
  "Print each element of LIST on a line of its own."
  (while list
(print (car list))
(setq list (cdr list
#+end_src

#+RESULTS:
: print-elements-of-list

and finally

#+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp
(print-elements-of-list animals)
#+END_SRC

Re: [O] org-collector unable to handle macros

[Charles Millar]

This may be related to the problem or is the same that I reported in 
April and May and again earlier this month when Bastien's requested 
details in his August 4th message.


org-collector does not work with org 8.3, but does with 8.2.10

Charlie Millar

On 08/28/2015 02:11 PM, Mark Edgington wrote:

I have had problems getting org-collector.el to generate tables where the
content of the tables should include macros.  At some point in the past this
worked, but at this time (latest git version of org-mode), the following
example fails (unless you remove the macro from the property definition):

# comment-macro
#+MACRO: c

* Notes
:PROPERTIES:
:ID: sched_table
:COLUMNS:  %WEEKNUM(Week #) %DAY(Day) %INCLASS(In-class Content)
%READINGS(Readings) %PRECLASS(Pre-class Assignments / Homework)
:END:
** WEEK 1
*** DAY
:PROPERTIES:
:INCLASS:  ABC {{{c(stuff)}}} DEF
:DAY:  T
:WEEKNUM:  1
:END:
blah

* Schedule
# type C-c C-c on the #BEGIN line to attempt to generate the table
#+BEGIN: propview :id sched_table :defaultval  :conds ((not (string= DAY
))) :cols (WEEKNUM DAY INCLASS READINGS PRECLASS) :noquote t :colnames
(Week # Day In-class Content Readings Pre-class Assignments / Homework)

#+END:


Any help in resolving this problem would be appreciated!  Thanks.

Re: [O] what is atril?

[Charles Millar]

Thank you Richard and Johann.

In the future I must remember to check the packages list (in this case 
that comes with LMDE2) as well as aptitude and apt-cache. It never 
occurred to me that it was related to a pdf reader since my output opens 
in Evince.


Have to check further into atril.

Charlie

On 12/06/2015 04:49 PM, Charles Millar wrote:
I just noticed that after I export a subtree to latex the following 
appears in the minibuffer


running atril /path/to/output/file

What is atril?

I have tried info-apropos, C-h f, C-h v, Google, etc.

Charlie Millar

Re: [O] problem with org-capture

[Charles Millar]

Hi,

On 12/02/2015 04:24 PM, Nicolas Goaziou wrote:

Hello,

Eric S Fraga  writes:


However, it only partially fixed.  The system does now prompt as it
should but the mini-buffer input only allows single words.  Hitting
space bar attempts to do completion.  I believe the input should be free
form?

Fixed (again). Thank you.


Regards,


I think it is still broken in another way

my template for capturing time as I work on a files -

("s" "timeslip" table-line
 (file "/mnt/Data/ActiveFiles/EmacsFiles/timeslips.org")
 "\| %(org-read-date)\| %^{FileName} %i\| %^{Narrative} 
%i\| %^{Time} %i\| %^{Expense} %i"


Last week the prompt org-read-date would pull up the calendar first; now 
the template jumps first to FileName, then Narrative,then Time, then 
Expense, then back to org-read-date.  After C-c C-c there is anywhere 5 
to 20 second delay.


Charlie Millar

Re: [O] problem with org-capture

[Charles Millar]

On 12/03/2015 04:02 AM, Nicolas Goaziou wrote:

Hello,

Charles Millar <mill...@verizon.net> writes:


I think it is still broken in another way

my template for capturing time as I work on a files -

 ("s" "timeslip" table-line
  (file "/mnt/Data/ActiveFiles/EmacsFiles/timeslips.org")
  "\| %(org-read-date)\| %^{FileName} %i\| %^{Narrative}
%i\| %^{Time} %i\| %^{Expense} %i"

Last week the prompt org-read-date would pull up the calendar first;
now the template jumps first to FileName, then Narrative,then Time,
then Expense, then back to org-read-date.

Well, this one is to be expected. S-exp placeholders are evaluated only
once. This currently happens at the end of the process because some
users do

   %(do-stuff "%i")

Here you want it to happen at the beginning of the process, which is not
quite compatible with the behaviour above.

I guess we could check if the S-exp contains any placeholder to decide
if it should be evaluated at the beginning or the end of the process,
but that somehow sounds cheesy.
OK; however, why should this change within the past few days (at least 
in my case)? I have been using this template for over three and I 
believe four years and the calendar prompt always started first, not last.

After C-c C-c there is anywhere 5 to 20 second delay.

I'm not sure this is related to the change. Could you use
elp-intrument-package and post the details?



You are right, it's not.

Charlie

[O] what is atril?

[Charles Millar]

I just noticed that after I export a subtree to latex the following 
appears in the minibuffer


running atril /path/to/output/file

What is atril?

I have tried info-apropos, C-h f, C-h v, Google, etc.

Charlie Millar

Re: [O] problem with org-capture

[Charles Millar]

On 12/03/2015 05:38 PM, Nicolas Goaziou wrote:

Hello,

Mike McLean  writes:


At the risk of piling on, I too am having problems with Org Capture
templates that haven't changed in a long time. The sample below used to
function like:

1. I would call it from org-capture, select the “af” template
2. I would get prompted for a date from file+datetree+prompt and I would
select the date
3. I would get prompted for the week number from the
~%^{prompt|%<%Y-W%V>}~ clause. This would default to the current week in
ISO format (2015-W49). I would change it or not (usually not)
4. The ISO week entered from that prompt would get substituted into the
AR_DATE property in multiple places.

The two big differences with release_8.3.2-381-gb7ee96 are

1. The substitution for %Y and %V does not happen before the prompt in
step 3; I get a default value of [%<%Y-W%V>]
2. Even if I manually type the ISO week string (2015-W09) it no longer
gets substituted into the AR_DATE properties via %\1

I pushed a commit which should fix these issues and the others mentioned
in the thread. Thank you.

Let me know if something is still wrong.

Regards,


Works for me. Thank you, Nicholas.

Regards,

Charlie Millar

Re: [O] Featur request org-table-iterate-table-subtree

[Charles Millar]

Hi Aaron,

On 12/03/2015 02:17 PM, Aaron Ecay wrote:

Hi Charlie,

2015ko azaroak 27an, Charles Millar-ek idatzi zuen:

Any thoughts? Any body?

Well, FWIW...

#+tblname’s should be unique within a document.  Your problems stem from
that, and your proposed solutions all work around it in some way.  I
can’t think of any better way to address your desired usage than the
ones you listed (and would caution you that using narrowing to defeat
the uniqueness assumption, while perhaps adequate for the short term, is
fragile and could break at any time).


Thanks for the input.

Charlie

[O] Bug: time duration in capture template broken

[Charles Millar]

Until recently given the following capture template

"* APPOINTMENT %?%^{BeginTimeDuration}T %^{Location} %^{Reason}"

When prompted for the BeginTimeDuration and entered 2/29 09:00+1:00,  etc

would result in

* APPOINTMENT <2016-02-29 Mon 09:00-10:00> Location Reason

it now results in

** APPOINTMENT <2016-02-29 Mon (system time when capture made)> Location 
Reason


If no duration is given, the date and time as entered into the template 
are correctly captured


* APPOINTMENT <2016-02-29 Mon 09:00> Location Reason

Same error if I use 13:00-14:00 or 13:00--14:00 for duration, the start 
and end time still results in the system time when I C-c C-c the capture.


LMDE2
GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.5) of 
2015-03-07 on trouble, modified by Debian
Org-mode version 8.3.2 (release_8.3.2-457-g4a6d19 @ 
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/org-mode/lisp/)


Charlie Millar

Re: [O] Bug: time duration in capture template broken

[Charles Millar]

Hi,

On 01/05/2016 05:31 PM, Nicolas Goaziou wrote:

Hello,

Charles Millar <mill...@verizon.net> writes:


Until recently given the following capture template

"* APPOINTMENT %?%^{BeginTimeDuration}T %^{Location} %^{Reason}"

When prompted for the BeginTimeDuration and entered 2/29 09:00+1:00,  etc

would result in

* APPOINTMENT <2016-02-29 Mon 09:00-10:00> Location Reason

it now results in

** APPOINTMENT <2016-02-29 Mon (system time when capture made)>
Location Reason

If no duration is given, the date and time as entered into the
template are correctly captured

* APPOINTMENT <2016-02-29 Mon 09:00> Location Reason

Same error if I use 13:00-14:00 or 13:00--14:00 for duration, the
start and end time still results in the system time when I C-c C-c the
capture.

Fixed. Thank you.

Works now. Thank you.

Re: [O] How to hide past days in Agenda view

[Charles Millar]

Hi,

On 11/27/2015 08:45 AM, sgeorgii . wrote:

Hello!

The subject question. When I

M-x org-agenda

and it is now Friday - in my weekly agenda view I want only to see 
Friday (today), Saturday and Sunday. I.e. only remaining part of the week.


By default my agenda shows from Monday till Sunday regardless of 
current day. How do I filter our days which are in past in my Agenda?


Any help?

As to agenda starting today I have the following in my init.el

(setq org-agenda-start-on-weekday nil) ;starts agenda week view "today"
   ;rather than a fixed day each week

Perhaps you can set org-agenda-span someway to show only the remaining 
days in the week. I set it to


(setq org-agenda-span 14)

so that I see the next 14 days I believe setting it to 'fortnight also 
works.


Charlie Millar