Re: [O] How to export property values of agenda selection?

[Karl Maihofer]

Hi Christian,

Christian Moe  christianmoe.com> writes:
> I'm not quite clear on your use case / desired result now. Why do you
> want results through batch mode on the command line in order to embed
> them in a webpage? Embed how? Is this something you could perhaps do
> simply by exporting from Org to HTML? 

Thanks for your mail. I found a (not so quick but very dirty) way to do what
I want. Just to explain:

The first step was the management of distribution lists withhin emacs.  In
the second step I wanted to make the distribution lists also available via
Web.  What I did now is to use a combination of php, emacs batch mode and
agenda views, shellscript and perl:

In my index.php I call a shell script:
=




emacs-export-distribution-list.sh
==

# Export Agenda View and write to file
emacs -batch -l ~/.emacs -eval '(org-batch-agenda "1")' | sed '1d' | sed
'1d' > distribution_list.txt

# Extract email adresses
perl -wne 'while(/[\w\.]+@[\w\.]+\w+/g){print "$&; "}' distribution_list.txt

Emacs configuration


(setq org-agenda-custom-commands
  (quote (("1" "Distribution List" tags "tag1+tag2"
 ((org-agenda-prefix-format
  '((tags  . "%-40:(km/get-properties) ; ")))
  (org-use-tag-inheritance nil))

And the function:

(defun km/get-properties ()
  (concat
(org-entry-get (point) "EMAIL")))


In emacs I could not find a way to extract only the email addresses in an
agenda view. So it was a good idea to use the following in the buffer as you
suggested:

#+NAME: list2csv
#+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp :var match="tag1+tag2"
  (mapconcat 'identity 
 (org-map-entries 
  '(org-entry-get (point) "EMAIL") 
  match nil)
 ",")
#+END_SRC

But for the webpage I could use Perl to further process an agenda view.  And
since I knew how to get an agenda view exported using emacs batch mode, this
was the hack I was looking for.

Perhaps not very professional, but it works. ;-)

Thanks again for your help!

Karl

Re: [O] How to export property values of agenda selection?

[Karl Maihofer]

Christian Moe  christianmoe.com> writes:
> I don't know how to do it from the agenda selection, but here's a pretty
> simple way to do it in the document buffer using Babel:
> 
> #+NAME: list2csv
> #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp :var match="topic2"
>   (mapconcat 'identity 
>  (org-map-entries 
>   '(org-entry-get (point) "EMAIL") 
>   match nil)
>  ",")
> #+END_SRC
> 
> Now you can use a CALL line with a tags match as a parameter, like
> 
> #+CALL: list2csv(match="topic2")
> 
> to get
> 
> #+RESULTS: list2csv(match="topic2")
> : peter  mayer.com,karl  august.com

Does anybody know how to get the results via Emacs batch mode on the command
line? I'd like to embed the results in a webpage.

The following is my starting point and of course terribly wrong and it
doesn't work. It's hard for me to find documentation (that I understand).

$ emacs -batch -l ~/.emacs -eval (progn 
   (find-file \"~/test.org\")
   (org-babel-execute-src-block 'list2csv)
   (kill-buffer))"

Thanks,
Karl

Re: [O] How to export property values of agenda selection?

[Karl Maihofer]

Christian Moe  christianmoe.com> writes:
> I don't know how to do it from the agenda selection, but here's a pretty
> simple way to do it in the document buffer using Babel:

Christian, thanks a lot! That does the job.

Kind regards,
Karl

[O] How to export property values of agenda selection?

[Karl Maihofer]

I'd like to manage some distribution (mailing) lists in Org. This works great
using tags and agenda column view.

I have an Org file like this:

#+COLUMNS: %25ITEM %30EMAIL %20TAGS

* Peter Mayer :topic1:topic2:
:PROPERTIES:
:EMAIL:pe...@mayer.com
:END:
* Karl August  :topic1:topic2:topic4:
:PROPERTIES:
:EMAIL: k...@august.com
:END:
* Peter Müller   :topic1:
:PROPERTIES:
:EMAIL:pe...@mueller.com
:END:

When I want to write an email about topic2 I use the agenda to display online
the entries tagged with "topic2":

Headlines with TAGS match: topic2
Press `C-u r' to search again with new search string
  verteiler:  Peter Mayer:topic1:topic2:
  verteiler:  Karl August :topic1:topic2:topic4:

I now can use column view in the agenda to display the email addresses and even
adjust some entries.

What I'd like to do now is to export a comma-separated list of the email
addresses of the entries in the agenda selection:
"pe...@mayer.com,k...@august.com" in the case above.

Does anybody have an idea how to solve this?

Thanks,
Karl

Re: [O] How to define a start date for a task?

[Karl Maihofer]

Hi Viktor,

Viktor Rosenfeld  googlemail.com> writes:
> I don't understand why it would show today. The date is in the future
> (and it's not a deadline) and the timestamp is inactive. It should not
> show up at all, unless the variable
> org-agenda-include-inactive-timestamps is set.

What I meant is that such a task is not shown on the daily agenda
but when I use the agenda to search for all tasks, it is still in the
list even if the start date is in the future since inactive 
timestamps are not recognized by the agenda at all.

> I'm not sure how one can query for tasks that do not have a property. A
> possible work-around would be querying for all tasks and then using a
> skip function to discard those have a start date in the future.

The best way would be to to globally exclude such tasks from all
agenda searches as it is possible for tags with 
(setq org-agenda-filter-preset '("-tag")).

But as Bernt wrote this seems to be impossible right now. Or does
anybody know how to manage this?

Regards,
Karl

Re: [O] How to define a start date for a task?

[Karl Maihofer]

Bernt Hansen  norang.ca> writes:
> I think you'll need to write a custom agenda skip function that skips
> your tasks with an inactive START: [date] in the future.  I don't know
> of a way to apply a custom skip function to the global todo and tags
> searches so you'll probably need to use custom agenda searches for this.

I use (setq org-agenda-filter-preset '("-someday")) to skip tasks with
the tag "someday" in my agenda views. But I think it is only possible
to use tags here. 

Isn't there an equivalent where I can put something like 
"-'START: $TIMESTAMP_IA > '"?

Re: [O] How to define a start date for a task?

[Karl Maihofer]

Hi Viktor,

Viktor Rosenfeld  googlemail.com> writes:
> you could enter the start using an inactive timestamp (optionally as a
> property value). Then the entry would not show up on the agenda.  The
> "Advanced searching" tutorial on Worg explains how you can search for
> inactive timestamps or property values:
> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/advanced-searching.html
> #special-properties

Thank you! That is interesting. Is my understanding correct, that you 
meant something like the following.

* TODO Task, that can be completed tomorrow or later
  START: [2011-12-19 Mon]

This task will not show up on the daily agenda tomorrow since the 
timestamp is inactive. But it is still shown its the agenda task list 
today. What I have to do now is to write a custom agenda search that 
shows me all tasks that do not have a start timestamp or a start 
timestamp in the past or today. This search would hide tasks with a 
start date in the future.

Is this what you mean?

Regards,
Karl 

Re: [O] How to define a start date for a task?

[Karl Maihofer]

Hi Bernt,

Bernt Hansen  norang.ca> writes:
> I assume you have a few typos in the following description:
> > I'm not sure if this helps. What I'd like to archive is that an unavailable 
>^^^
>achieve

Of course, that is a typo. ;-)

> > I do not want the task to show up on my daily agenda when it 
> > becomes available.
>^^^
>not want the task to show up [only] on my daily agenda

But that is not a typo. 

Correct me, but with your solution, tasks become available 
(schedule date arrives) and then they will show up on the 
daily agenda. And they will show up there every day until 
I mark the task as done. That is not really what I'd like 
to achieve (not archive!) since tasks with start dates are 
tasks I can do when the start date arrived but do not have 
to do on a special date.

My workflow is as follows: I have a look at my daily agenda 
to find out what I have to do that day. There I can find 
tasks that are scheduled or have a deadline. When I finished 
these tasks and still have time to do some more work, I do 
agenda searches for tags and/or todo keywords. So, tasks 
with only a start date should never show up on my daily 
agenda. They should be hidden from all agenda searches until 
the start date arrives. Until then they should be available 
for all agenda searches (but they should not show up on the 
daily agenda list until I define a schedule date).

Is that also possible or am I the only person that has a 
need for this? ;-)

Thanks for your help!

Regards,
Karl

Re: [O] How to define a start date for a task?

[Karl Maihofer]

Karl Voit  Karl-Voit.at> writes:
> Three things I am using can help you:
> 
> 1) Use warning periods together with DEADLINE or SCHEDULED: «You can
> specify a different lead time for warnings for a specific deadlines
> using the following syntax. Here is an example with a warning period
> of 5 days DEADLINE: <2004-02-29 Sun -5d>.»
> 
> 2) Use http://orgmode.org/org.html#TODO-dependencies
> 
> 3) http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-depend.html

I'm not sure if this helps. What I'd like to archive is that an unavailable 
task is not shown when I do an  agenda search for all tasks for example. 
I do not want the task to show up on my daily agenda when it 
becomes available. When the start date arrived the agenda search for all 
tasks should show the task.

Is this possible?

Thanks for your help!

Regards!
Karl

[O] How to define a start date for a task?

[Karl Maihofer]

Hi,

when I used Omnifocus for my task management I made heavy use of 
start dates to keep unavailable 
tasks from my tasks lists. If you for example create a task 
"Buy new DVD" this task should not be shown in 
your lists until the DVD is published and available.

Is there a possibility to define start dates in Org?

Regards,
Karl

[Orgmode] Re: [ANN] Changes to lists

[Karl Maihofer]

Nicolas,

Nicolas Goaziou  gmail.com> writes:
> > 2. Lists in inline tasks are not exported properly (item 2a in the
> > example below).
> 
> This should be fixed now. Thanks.

This does not work for me. Lists in inline tasks are still exported as follows:

*
  item 1
*
  item 2

What do I miss?

Regards,
Karl



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Re: [Orgmode] Re: [ANN] Changes to lists

[Karl Maihofer]

Nicolas,

I found another bug. When I put the cursor on item 2 in my example and  
cycle through with TAB, I get the following:


TAB once:

- item 2...

another TAB:

- item 2
***
Inline Task without a "headline"
*** END
  - item 2a... (=> item 2b is missing!!)

third TAB: all

It seems as if the list in the inline task confuses the cycle functionality.

Regards,
Karl



Zitat von Karl Maihofer :
 begin example  


Test

- item 1
*** TODO Inline Task
Test
*** END
- item 2
***
Inline Task without a "headline"
*** END
  - item 2a
*** TODO Inline Task
Text, and a list:
- item 1
  - item 1a
  - item 1b
- item 2
*** END
  - item 2b
- item 3
 end example  
-



Regards,
Karl


Zitat von Nicolas Goaziou :

Hello,


Karl Maihofer writes:



Pressing M- with the cursor on "Item 2" in the example below
inserts a space before the inline task, so that it's no longer
recognized as a task.



- Item 1
- Item 2
 - Item 2.1

*** Inline Task
 Text
*** END

 - Item 2.2
- Item 3


Fixed and pushed. I also repaired wrong indentation of text inside the
task.

Thanks for reporting this.

Regards,

--
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: [ANN] Changes to lists

[Karl Maihofer]

Nicolas,

thanks, demoting works now as expected.

I do have another issue when I export inline tasks:

1. If the inline task doesn't have a "headline", there is an empty  
space before the content of the inline task. I think in earlier  
versions it wasn't there. See item 2 in the example below. I sometimes  
use inline tasks just to comment a line of my lists, so I do not use a  
TODO-state nor a "headline" for that inline task. Perhaps it is a good  
idea not to use just  and  but a div-container (for the  
"headline" and another one for the text below of it) to be able to use  
CSS for formatting?


2. Lists in inline tasks are not exported properly (item 2a in the  
example below).


Thanks a lot for your work!!

 begin example  


Test

- item 1
*** TODO Inline Task
Test
*** END
- item 2
***
Inline Task without a "headline"
*** END
  - item 2a
*** TODO Inline Task
Text, and a list:
- item 1
  - item 1a
  - item 1b
- item 2
*** END
  - item 2b
- item 3
 end example -


Regards,
Karl


Zitat von Nicolas Goaziou :

Hello,


Karl Maihofer writes:



Pressing M- with the cursor on "Item 2" in the example below
inserts a space before the inline task, so that it's no longer
recognized as a task.



- Item 1
- Item 2
  - Item 2.1

*** Inline Task
  Text
*** END

  - Item 2.2
- Item 3


Fixed and pushed. I also repaired wrong indentation of text inside the
task.

Thanks for reporting this.

Regards,

--
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[Orgmode] Re: [ANN] Changes to lists

[Karl Maihofer]

Nicolas,

Nicolas Goaziou  gmail.com> writes:
> I would like to announce, and submit to discussion, some list code
> upgrades. So, let me introduce the changes done in development branch:

Great! Thanks a lot. I just tested the inline task part and have an issue with
demoting of list items, please see below.

>  As a special case, inline tasks, though starting at column 0, are
>  always considered part of the first item above in the list.
>  Consider the following example, with (require 'org-inlinetask),
>  and try moving first sub-item, or exporting:
> 
>  - A list with
>+ A sub-list
> *** TODO Stuff waiting
> 1. First good reason to delay the task
> 2. Second good reason to delay it
> *** END
>+ Another sub-item

Pressing M- with the cursor on "Item 2" in the example below inserts a
space before the inline task, so that it's no longer recognized as a task.

--- Example --
- Item 1
- Item 2
  - Item 2.1

*** Inline Task
Text
*** END

  - Item 2.2
- Item 3
---

Kind regards,
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Re: [Orgmode] How to use headlines and lists in Org to structure your thoughts?

[Karl Maihofer]

Zitat von Alan L Tyree :

The ongoing discussion about inline tasks and drawers withhin lists
much depends on the way you use Org, I think. Perhaps it is a good
idea to brainstorm some fundamental aspects in regard to headlines and
lists.
2. Make headlines behave like list items. This means enabling word
wrap for headlines and export the headlines as lists. If a
headline should be exported as a headline you could use a
tag :HEADLINE:. If this would be possible, I cannot see a reason why
I should make such extensive use of lists.


For those old enough to remember PC-Outline, that is the way that
headlines behaved. I'm not sure, but I think that Grandview also had a
similar structure.


That's interesting. So perhaps it is worth to consider an option to  
make this possible in Org?!


I think this would solve the problems some of us have with lists.

Regards,
Karl




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[Orgmode] How to use headlines and lists in Org to structure your thoughts?

[Karl Maihofer]

The ongoing discussion about inline tasks and drawers withhin lists
much depends on the way you use Org, I think. Perhaps it is a good
idea to brainstorm some fundamental aspects in regard to headlines and
lists.

Why and in which situations do we use lists? I use lists a lot to
write down my thoughts. I think there are mainly two reasons for this:
- Headlines are exported as headlines, not as list items. ;-)
- In Headlines you do not have word wrap. So you always have to phrase
  a headline and then write your text below this headline. For me it
  is much easier to use lists and write, write, write... with word
  wrap.

I think these are the reasons for me to use lists a lot. But if I do
so, I cannot define tasks in my texts - the core concept of Org. To
solve this dilemma, I can think of two different approaches:

1. Make it possible to use inline tasks withhin lists. This is what
   Nicolas implemented (thanks a lot!!!) and what works very well. But
   it is not a "nice" concept. We discussed this already and I
   understand the reasons why Carsten and Nicolas himself have
   reservations. It it only a workaround.
2. Make headlines behave like list items. This means enabling word
   wrap for headlines and export the headlines as lists. If a headline
   should be exported as a headline you could use a tag :HEADLINE:. If
   this would be possible, I cannot see a reason why I should make
   such extensive use of lists.

What do you think? How do you use lists? Do you think the second
approach would make sense? Or do I miss something essential?

Regards,
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Re: [Orgmode] [babel] void-function org-babel-load-file

[Karl Maihofer]

Hi Eric,

Zitat von Eric Schulte :

Are you sure you are using the latest version of Org-mode?


I am quite sure. That is what "org-version" says. But I do not compile  
the elisp files. I only use the following to load a different  
org-version in my init.el:


(add-to-list 'load-path "~/elisp/2010-12-14_org-mode/lisp/")
(add-to-list 'load-path "~/elisp/2010-12-14_org-mode/contrib/lisp/")

Perhaps this is not enough to load a fully functional version of Org?

I tried different Emacs-Versions on Linux, Mac and Windows and  
different git snapshots of Org of the last few days. But on all  
machines the same problem. Strange.


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Re: [Orgmode] Lists made stronger: lists within lists

[Karl Maihofer]

Nicolas,

great! I just moved around some list items with inline tasks in my  
800+ pages document. And it works perfect. I will do some more tests  
tonight.


Thanks a lot!
Karl


Zitat von Nicolas Goaziou :


Hello,

As I had promised it here a few days ago, I just pushed a testing
branch allowing to have lists in blocks, drawers and inline tasks.
These constructs can themselves be located in lists.

Basically, lists are allowed in every block but "src", "example" and
"verse". Inline tasks will not end lists, even though they start at
column 0. Exporters should understand quite intricate situations. Here
is an example of this:


-
* Let's stress-test lists

  - a list

1. Sub-item with both example and quote blocks
   #+begin_example
   + here is a false list
   #+end_example

   #+begin_quote
   1. followed by a real list
   2. of two items
  1. and a sub-item


   And some other text afterwards.
   #+end_quote

2. Sub-item with src block
   #+begin_src emacs-lisp
   (message "Am I appearing?")
   #+end_src

3. Sub-item with a drawer
   :LOGBOOK:
   * One
 * One dot one
 * One dot two
   :END:

  - and now some centering

#+begin_center
1. One
2. Two
#+end_center


  The end.
-

This is not a trivial patch, so it needs careful testing (and maybe
some re-factoring). The branch can be found at:

  git://github.com/ngz/org-mode-lists.git recursive-lists


I still think inline tasks shouldn't be included in lists, but for
now, let's see it as a proof of concept. I can always remove it later
if it is "too much". The same idea applies to this whole patch: if it
is not really needed, it will not reach master branch.

Regards,

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Re: [Orgmode] [babel] void-function org-babel-load-file

[Karl Maihofer]

Zitat von Karl Maihofer :

,
| Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function org-babel-load-file)
|   (org-babel-load-file (expand-file-name


I found the definition of org-babel-load-file in ob-tangle.el, so I added

(require 'ob-tangle)

before the function is called in my init.el. And it works now.

But I think this is a bug, isn't it?

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[Orgmode] [babel] void-function org-babel-load-file

[Karl Maihofer]

Dear Orgmode Users,

when I try to update to the latest git version of Org I get the  
following error. What do I miss?


,
| Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function org-babel-load-file)
|   (org-babel-load-file (expand-file-name  
"e:/configs/emacs-config.org" dotfiles-dir))
|   eval-buffer(# nil "c:/emacs/home/.emacs.d/init.el"  
nil t)  ; Reading at buffer position 1038
|   load-with-code-conversion("c:/emacs/home/.emacs.d/init.el"  
"c:/emacs/home/.emacs.d/init.el" t t)

|   load("c:/emacs/home/.emacs.d/init" t t)
|   #[nil "
`

I use the following in my init.el without problems until today:

,
| (add-to-list 'load-path "~/elisp/org-mode-2010-12-07/lisp/")
| (add-to-list 'load-path "~/elisp/org-mode-2010-12-07/contrib/lisp/")
|
| (setq dotfiles-dir (file-name-directory (or load-file-name  
(buffer-file-name

| (add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name "lisp"
| (expand-file-name "org"
| (expand-file-name "src" dotfiles-dir
|
| ;; Org-Mode und Org-Babel starten
| (require 'org-install)
|
| ;; Emacs-Konfiguration einlesen
| (org-babel-load-file (expand-file-name "e:/configs/emacs-config.org"  
dotfiles-dir))

`

Thanks!

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Re: [Orgmode] Lists handling

[Karl Maihofer]

Eric S Fraga  schrieb:

Well, my immediate reaction was to jump in and say that this (pt 4) is
exactly when I most need inline tasks!  My typical use case is taking
minutes at a meeting and assigning actions to individuals: inline tasks
are perfect for this.

However, on reflection, obviously a simple nested single item list would
do the job just fine *if* we could assign TODO actions to list
items... *but* we cannot unfortunately.

So, I'm back to needing to use inline tasks or putting in a request for
taskable list items...


Seems as if I'm not alone. :-)

1) I understand that inline tasks withhin lists are not the perfect
   solution. They break the list visually because they live in column 1.
   So if you do not need to define a real task but just write a comment,
   a drawer should be the better solution.

,
| - Item 1
|   - Item 1a
| :COMMENT:
| This is a comment.
| :END:
|   - Item 1b
| - Item 2
| - Item 3
`

2) Another topic is the need of real tasks withhin lists. And I think that
   this depends on how you use Org. If you use Org just to write down
   thoughts using headings, you can define tasks for any item.

,
| * Text
| * Text
| ** Text
| ** TODO Text
| * Text
`

But if you have more complex documents that have different headings and
you'd like to have a list view for your structured thoughts, you may
prefer lists. And when these lists get larger, the need to define list items
as tasks gets more important.

Since Org is based on a outline structure of items beginning with a star,
it may be difficult to realise the possibility to mark list items as tasks!?

,
| - Item 1
|   - Item 1a
|   - TODO Item 1b
| - Item 3
`

So inline tasks may be a work around. My first guess was something like that:

,
| - Item 1
|   - Item 1a
| *** TODO Inline Task
| Here is text.
| *** END
|   - Item 1b
| - Item 2
| - Item 3
`

If that is difficult to implement and drawers are a appropriate way
to mark text to belong to a list item, what about using inline tasks
withhin such a drawer?

,
| - Item 1
|   - Item 1a
| :TASK:
| *** TODO Inline Task
| Here is text.
| *** END
| :END:
|   - Item 1b
| - Item 2
| - Item 3
`

The best solution seems to be allowing list items to get a TODO-state.
But I think this is too complicated to implement?

Regards,
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Re: [Orgmode] Lists handling

[Karl Maihofer]

Nicolas Goaziou  schrieb:

With a drawer, you mean something like the following?
,
| - Item 1
|   - Item 1a
| :COMMENT:
| This is a comment.
| :END:
|   - Item 1b
| - Item 2
| - Item 3
`


Yes.


It would be great to have drawers in lists. This is certaily a much  
cleaner structure than using inline tasks. But of course it lacks the  
possibility to define tasks withhin lists and to find them using the  
agenda. So I think both concepts may be useful - drawers for simple  
text and inline tasks to define tasks. ;-)


Until we have an opinion about inline tasks are there any arguments  
agains drawers for list items?


Regards,
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Re: [Orgmode] Lists handling

[Karl Maihofer]

Hi Nicolas!

Thanks for your answer!

Nicolas Goaziou  schrieb:

Wouldn't drawers be more appropriate here than inline tasks? Not that
it would work with a drawer either, but the examples given seem to
focus more on content than on a task title.


In fact I have both, text comments and tasks that interrupt my lists.  
So I think for me it is a more natural solution to use inline tasks. I  
write my notes between the start- and end-line of an inline task. And  
sometimes I then realize that there is something to take care of. So  
the inline task gets a TODO-state. Without inline tasks withhin the  
list I would have to add an extra inline task above or below the list.  
But some of my lists are several pages long, so this would not be the  
Org-way to define tasks (right there where the work had to be done).


Of course this is a special case. My lists do not contain my thoughts,  
but a given structure. I have to comment this structure. And it should  
be possible to differenciate between the lists and the comments in the  
HTML export. All this worked quite well with inline tasks.



I don't understand what the indentation problem you're talking about
is, [...]


You are right, identation was the wrong word. I meant promoting and  
demoting the current subtree with M-S-left or right arrow key. In the  
example below if the cursor is on Item 1 and I hit M-S-right arrow key  
Item 1a is demoted, but not Item 1b because of the inline task in  
between.


,
| - Item 1
|   - Item 1a
| *** Inline Task
| Here is text.
| *** END
|   - Item 1b
| - Item 2
| - Item 3
`

This is a big issue for me because I will have to edit the structure  
of the lists regularly. Until now this is not possible once I have  
added my comments. And it would be much effort to cut the comments,  
edit the structure and paste the comments again. So if promoting and  
demoting would work in this structure it would be a big help in my case.



[...] but I worked on indentation wrt inline tasks recently. My work is
at: git://github.com/ngz/org-mode-lists.git inlinetask
It might solve some of your problems.


I just checked out a copy and I'll have a look. Thanks for that. Did  
you work on the demote/promote problem, too?



I'm writing down ideas to put in a future update of lists. Some
previously "unsupported anymore" stuff may appear again, after a phase
of testing on a parallel git branch.

In this context, you raise an interesting question about inline tasks.
I have my idea (read below), but a discussion about it might be
productive.
It looks to me the syntax is way too subtle to be clear. Moreover,
lists are all about indentation, and inline tasks defeat that as they
live at column 0. They also visually break any structure around.


Perhaps syntax highlighting of inline tasks is an idea to solve the  
visusl problem. If the inline task gets a background color one can  
differentiate easier between the list and the task.



To be honest, I'm not very enthusiastic about allowing inline tasks
within lists. On the other hand, I will definitely let drawers in,
thus my first question.


As pointed out above in my special case inline tasks would be a great  
thing to have in lists. But I understand your reservation. It would be  
an impurity withhin a list.


With a drawer, you mean something like the following?

,
| - Item 1
|   - Item 1a
| :COMMENT:
| This is a comment.
| :END:
|   - Item 1b
| - Item 2
| - Item 3
`

In my special case this would be second choice. But I think I could  
live without tasks but with comments withhin lists when I change my  
workflow a bit.


In HTML export it would then be important to be able to format the  
comment with CSS. Right now my inline tasks get a nice border and a  
colored background so that the comments can be recognized withhin the  
lists. Would this be possible for drawers, too?


Regards,
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[Orgmode] Lists handling

[Karl Maihofer]

In an older thread(*) Sébastien, Carsten and Nicolas discussed the new  
kind of lists handling that was introduced with Org version 7.02.


(*) http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/32808

,
| Lists handling
| ===
|
| Due to changes made to lists, it is no longer possible to have a
| sublist, some text and then another sublist while still in the same
| top-level list item, like in the following situation:
|
|- Some list
|  + A first sublist
|  + of two elements
|
|  A text belonging to the top-level list
|
|  + Then another sublist
|  + and a second element in it
|- End of main list
`

Sébastien and Carsten mentioned that they aren't really happy to  
abandon the possiblilty to write that kind of lists. And for me this  
change is a big issue, too. I have serveral documents that make  
extensive use of such "interrupted" lists. Often I use inline tasks to  
comment special list items (and the lists are serveral pages long, so  
it is not an option to add the comments below or above the list).


Example:

,
| - Item 1
|   - Item 1a
|
| ***
| Item 1a is important because...
| *** END
|
|   - Item 1b
| - Item 2
`

These documents must be updated and will be exported to HTML  
regularly. Some documents have 500+ pages and many many of these  
"inline task" notes.


My problem isn't only that the exporter does not recognize this  
structure as one single list anymore (otherwise I could use an old Org  
version) but also that indentation does not work. Nicolas mentioned  
this already and I think this was one of the reasons for changing the  
handling of lists.


Does anybody see a chance to make Org recognize such "interrupted"  
lists as one list and make indentation and export to HTML work properly?


Wouldn't it be possible to tell Org to recognize text or inline tasks  
right behind a bullet point (next line) as belonging to this bullet  
point so that Org can treat the next bullet point as part of the same  
list?


Example for one single list:

,
| - Item 1
|   - Item 1a
| *** Inline Task
| This inline task belongs to the bullet point "Item 1a"
| *** END
|   - Item 1b
| - Item 2
| - Item 3
`

And in the following example the inline task wouldn't be an element of  
the list:


,
| - Item 1
|   - Item 1a
|
| *** Inline Task
| If the inline task or text should not belong to the bullet point 1a,
| there should be an empty line.
| *** END
|   - Item 1
| - Item 2
| - Item 3
`

Wouldn't this make sense? Or do I miss anything?

Regards,
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Re: [Orgmode] Highlight special string

[Karl Maihofer]

Hi Darlan!

Thanks a lot! That's a good solution.

Regards,
Karl

Darlan Cavalcante Moreira  schrieb:



Not exactly what you want, but for temporary highlights (useful for
instance to see if you are repeating the same word too much in a text) you
can use hi-lock-mode.

Turn hi-lock-mode on with M-x hi-lock-mode. Then you can highlight a word
with "C-x w h" (highlight-regexp) or a the line containing a word with "C-x
w l" (highlight-lines-matching-regexp). Remove highlights with "C-x w r".

--
Darlan


At Wed, 24 Nov 2010 09:21:00 +0100,
Karl Maihofer  wrote:


Hi,

I don't know if this is an Org- or Emacs-Question. For highlighting
special strings in AucTeX I used a variable
"font-latex-user-keyword-classes" so I thought there may be an
org-specific variable to achieve what I want in orgmode.

I'd like to highlight the strings "(ok)" and "(fail)" in my
Org-document. Ok should get a green background, fail a red one. I
think highlighting in emacs should last, but it would be great to have
these strings highlighted in HTML-export, too, if this is no problem.

Could anybody give me a hint how to define highlighting for special
strings in orgmode?

Thanks a lot!










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[Orgmode] Highlight special string

[Karl Maihofer]

Hi,

I don't know if this is an Org- or Emacs-Question. For highlighting  
special strings in AucTeX I used a variable  
"font-latex-user-keyword-classes" so I thought there may be an  
org-specific variable to achieve what I want in orgmode.


I'd like to highlight the strings "(ok)" and "(fail)" in my  
Org-document. Ok should get a green background, fail a red one. I  
think highlighting in emacs should last, but it would be great to have  
these strings highlighted in HTML-export, too, if this is no problem.


Could anybody give me a hint how to define highlighting for special  
strings in orgmode?


Thanks a lot!
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Adding tags, grouping tags

[Karl Maihofer]

Carsten wrote:

2. A complex new structure that would somehow utilize properties to
   crease a tag-like parallel structure that can be used in searches.


I think it is a interesting idea to use properties for an "extended"  
use of tags.


My first attempt to implement my use of tags to organize my documents  
in orgmode:


* Title of the memo:ATTACH:
 :PROPERTIES:
 :Attachments: Memo.pdf
 :ID:   e77dc30e-53c4-4dde-b451-e2g8aa8964c
 :Topic_ALL: Topic1 Topic2 Topic3
 :Client_ALL: Client1 Client2 Client3
 :Topic:
 :Client:
 :END:

I use an org-capture template that gives me the structure above to  
save new entries to my orgmode-based collection of documents. In the  
example above the name of the property item is something like a tag  
group. This enables me to insert tags easily (I can use "C-c C-x p Cl  
TAB RET" and then scroll through the possible values defined by *_ALL  
using the arrow keys). But since the client-entry can only have one  
value, the memo can concern different topics... but the property  
"Topic" can only have one value, of course.


I think it would not be nice to use "topic_one", "topic_two" and  
"topic_three" as properties to be prepared for these cases where an  
entry can have more than one value.


Any ideas on how to realize multible tags (being in the same group)  
per entry using the properties function?





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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Adding tags, grouping tags

[Karl Maihofer]

Hi Carsten!

Carsten Dominik  schrieb:

Group "people":
- Key "h" -> Holger
- Key "o" -> Otto


I use TAB and then completion for people.  Otherwise you run into  
trouble with two people starting with the same name, trusting your  
system too far


Yes, this may be a risk. But the people group was only an example. The  
main reason for me pre-defining the tags and using selection keys is  
that I use org to archive documents. I'd like to assign tags to this  
documents: (1) the names of clients the documents belong to (2) tags  
describing the contents ot the files. To make sure that I do not use  
different tags for the same thing, it is important to see a list of  
the used tags when assigning them. So I have to use pre-defined tags  
and selections keys. Do you know what I mean?


Besides that I have tags in other contexts, e.g. GTD-related tags etc.  
So it would be very useful to be able to group the tags as it is  
possible for agenda commands.


Thanks!
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Adding tags, grouping tags

[Karl Maihofer]

Noorul Islam K M  schrieb:

I have something like this shamelessly copied from Bernt's doc.

(setq org-tag-alist (quote ((:startgroup)
("@errand" . ?e)
("@office" . ?o)
("@home" . ?h)
(:endgroup)
("PHONE" . ?p)
("NEXT" . ?n)
("WAITING" . ?w)
("HOME" . ?H)
("ORG" . ?O


Thanks for your reply! Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this  
"only" effect that if you add the tag @office, than add the tag @home,  
the first will be deleted automatically? This is not the kind of  
grouping what I am looking for. For me it should - by the way - be  
possible to add several tags of the same group.


I'd like to use the same selection keys for different tags. For  
example I have the following groups:


Group "people":
- Key "h" -> Holger
- Key "o" -> Otto

Group "contexts":
- Key "h" -> @home
- Key "o" -> @office

To make this possible I think it is necessary to be able to select the  
group in the first step, and then the tag you want to assign - as it  
is possible for agenda groups.


Any ideas?




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[Orgmode] Adding tags, grouping tags

[Karl Maihofer]

I'd like to define many many tags and use numerics (1-0) as selection
keys. I want to define tags for different clients, people, gtd-contexts,
and other contexts. So I had the idea to group the tags (less than ten
tags per group) to be able to define selection keys for every tag.

I already use groups for my custom agenda views (see example below). So
when I hit C-c a, Org only shows the agenda groups (besides the default
agenda commands) and I do not get to the actual agenda commands until I
hit Q. This enables me to use the keys 1, 2, 3, 4 several times for
different agenda commands (in different groups).

Example:

(setq org-agenda-custom-commands
   '(("Q" . "Custom queries") ;; gives label to "Q"
 ("Q1" "Archive search" search ""
  ((org-agenda-files (file-expand-wildcards "~/archive/*.org"
 ("Q2" "Website search" search ""
  ((org-agenda-files (file-expand-wildcards "~/website/*.org"
 ("Q3" "Projects and Archive" search ""
  ((org-agenda-text-search-extra-files (file-expand-wildcards
"~/archive/*.org"
 ;; searches both projects and archive directories
 ("Q4" "Archive tags search" org-tags-view ""
  ((org-agenda-files (file-expand-wildcards "~/archive/*.org"
 ;; ...other commands here
  ))

Is something similar possible for adding tags?


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: [WIP] OpenOffice Exporter

[Karl Maihofer]

For me it would be very helpful to be able to export footnotes to
OpenOffice format. This is something that doesn't work via HTML-export.
Do you plan to add support for footnotes?

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Re: [Orgmode] Archive Tasks

[Karl Maihofer]

Thanks for your reply!

I think this is not what i am looking for. Quote from Bernt: "This
ensures that any level 2 task that I archive from this heading (I
archive by subtree) gets saved in the archive file under the appropriate
level 1 heading.."

My problem is, that i have level 3 tasks.

---
file: main.org
---
* Tasks
** Client X
   :PROPERTIES:
   :ARCHIVE:  %s_archive::** Client X
   :END:
*** DONE Task Client X
** Client Y
   :PROPERTIES:
   :ARCHIVE:  %s_archive::** Client Y
   :END:
*** DONE Task Client Y
---
file: main.org_archive
---
* Tasks
** Client A
** Client X
** Client Z

* Whatever
---

The first Task (Task Client X) will now be archived correctly. But only
because there is already a heading "Client X" in my archive file (and
only one heading "Client X"). The second task will be archived at the
end of the archive file, but not under the first level heading "Tasks".

With the current setup i have to make sure
- that there is already a heading for every client in my archive file and
- that there is only one heading with that name

It would be great if i could tell org, that my level 3 tasks should be
archived under * Tasks -> ** Client X, so that Org will create the
heading "client X" itself (and the heading "Tasks", too, if it doesn't
already exist) at the right position in my archive file.

Any ideas?

Karl


Am 18.08.10 07:22, schrieb Puneeth:
> Karl,
> 
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Karl Maihofer  wrote:
>> Is there a way to tell org, that there should be a first level called
>> "Tasks" and a second called "Client 1"?
> 
> Bernt's setup describes how to do this.
> 
> http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html#OrgFileStructure
> 
> -- Puneeth
> 


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Re: [Orgmode] Archive Tasks

[Karl Maihofer]

Bastien,

thanks for your reply! I think this works if there is already an entry
"Client 1" in the file gtd.org_archive. But if the task is the first one
that should be archived, org doesn't know that this should be on the
second level:

* Tasks
** Client 1

Is there a way to tell org, that there should be a first level called
"Tasks" and a second called "Client 1"?

Regards,
Karl


Am 16.08.10 20:07, schrieb Bastien:
> Hi Karl,
> 
> Karl Maihofer  writes:
> 
>> I have a problem to archive my tasks. What should the row ":ARCHIVE:"
>> look like, so that my "Task One" will be archived under "Tasks - Client
>> 1" (see example below)?
> 
> :ARCHIVE: %s_archive::** Client 1
> 
> should work.
> 


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[Orgmode] Archive Tasks

[Karl Maihofer]

Dear Org-Users,

I have a problem to archive my tasks. What should the row ":ARCHIVE:"
look like, so that my "Task One" will be archived under "Tasks - Client
1" (see example below)?

Thanks a lot!

Karl

---
My structure in gtd.org:
---
* Tasks
** Client 1
*** DONE Task One
:PROPERTIES:
:ARCHIVE: %s_archive::* Tasks ???
:END:
*** TODO Task Two
** Client 2
*** TODO Task Three
---

---
gtd.org_archive should look the same:
---
* Tasks
** Client 1
*** DONE Task One
---

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Re: [Orgmode] Export to LaTeX without "surroundings"?

[Karl Maihofer]

Thanks a lot, Darlan!

Am 23.12.09 04:41, schrieb Darlan Cavalcante Moreira:
> 
> If all you want to do is using the org-mode superpowers for tables to write
> latex tables then you should about "Radio tables" in the manual
> (http://orgmode.org/manual/Radio-tables.html#Radio-tables). Basically, you 
> write
> a standard org-mode table as a comment in your .tex file and then call a
> function to send the table as a latex table to a specified place in the same
> file. It is really nice and you can use all of the spreadsheet operations.
> 
> - Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
> 
> At Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:45:05 +0100,
> Karl Maihofer  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> is there a way to only export the content of an org-file to the LaTeX
>> syntax (without LaTeX header etc.)?
>>
>> I'd like to include a table.tex (my bibliography, i do not use bibtex)
>> into my main tex-file. But because it is very nice to write tables in
>> orgmode, i thought i could write my table in a file table.org, export it
>> to table.tex, which then will be included into my main.tex file.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Karl
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[Orgmode] Export to LaTeX without "surroundings"?

[Karl Maihofer]

Hi,

is there a way to only export the content of an org-file to the LaTeX
syntax (without LaTeX header etc.)?

I'd like to include a table.tex (my bibliography, i do not use bibtex)
into my main tex-file. But because it is very nice to write tables in
orgmode, i thought i could write my table in a file table.org, export it
to table.tex, which then will be included into my main.tex file.

Thanks!

Karl


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[Orgmode] [MobileOrg] Weekly Agenda

[Karl Maihofer]

Hi,

I'm making my first steps with MobileOrg. Thank you very must for this 
app, it was one reason for me to chose the iphone.


MobileOrg shows me my custom agenda views, but what about the agenda for 
the current week and day?


Regards,
Karl


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[Orgmode] html export of inline tasks

[Karl Maihofer]

Hi,

would it be possible to add some tags to the html-exporter for inline 
tasks? I'd like to be able to show the todo keyword in a different color 
as it is possible for normal tasks.


Normal task:
>  TODO task description

Inline task:
> 
> TODO task description
> 
> 

Perhaps one could add a span tag to the keyword of inline tasks, too?

Regards,
Karl


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Re: [Orgmode] Evangelize the world with Org-mode

[Karl Maihofer]

Am 16.10.09 14:09, schrieb Karl Maihofer:

Perhaps ikiwiki?


Ha! Have a look at this:

http://www.golden-gryphon.com/blog/manoj/blog/2008/06/08/Using_org-mode_with_Ikiwiki/

There was already a discussion about ikiwiki on this list:

http://search.gmane.org/search.php?group=gmane.emacs.orgmode&query=ikiwiki

Karl


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Re: [Orgmode] Evangelize the world with Org-mode

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Am 16.10.09 11:29, schrieb Sébastien Vauban:

- or, even better (as it would be install-less): a Wiki based on Org syntax
   with document generation capability (button to generate a PDF).


Perhaps ikiwiki?

"Ikiwiki is a wiki compiler. It converts wiki pages into HTML pages 
suitable for publishing on a website. Ikiwiki stores pages and history 
in a revision control system such as Subversion or Git."


"If you prefer to use some *other markup language*, ikiwiki allows 
others to easily be added by plugins."


http://ikiwiki.info/
http://ikiwiki.info/features/

Karl


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Re: [Orgmode] Searching inside of attachments (pdf, odt)?

[Karl Maihofer]

Hi,

Am 13.10.09 19:09, schrieb Samuel Wales:

Have you tried the agenda search feature yet?  If not, perhaps trying
it first will help ground the discussion.


OK, I had another look at the org agenda search feature and I agree that 
it would be much smarter to use the already implemented org features - 
to go "the org-way".


But I must confess I do not know how to push the attachments to pdf2txt, 
make the org agenda search the text-files and link back to the 
corresponding org task in the org-file.


Any ideas?

Karl


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Re: [Orgmode] Searching inside of attachments (pdf, odt)?

[Karl Maihofer]

Hi Samuel,

Samuel Wales  schrieb:

My idea is to use ordinary agenda search like this:
  1) agenda search displays the headline that has the
 attachment.
  2) org uses an alist to determine the correct textifier
 according to extension.  e.g. '((".pdf" . "pdf2text")).
  3) agenda searches normally (as if the contents of the
 attachment were body text).


correct me if i'm wrong, but your approach is to search inside (an)
already identified attachment(s)?

I'd like to find attachments by searching inside the whole set of
attachments. I do have many articles (pdf-files) to deal with. When i
write a report on a special topic i have to find articles that are
relevant to the topic i'm working on at the moment.

If we use the standard textifiers the procedure will probably get very
slow if there are many attachments. I think using an index would be a
good idea.

To describe what i'm looking for:
My first step is to create an entry for each article, define tags
(describing the content) and add some notes.

* Title of the article   :tag:tag:tag:
  :PROPERTIES:
  :Attachments: article.pdf
  :ID: 387HJGJD78-758GZFHF87-JKHKJ57dfd9
  :END:
  - Very good explanation of X.
  - New view on Y.

But it would be much more powerful to be able not only to find an
entry by searching for tags but to search inside the attachments.

I'm not a programmer, so sorry if my ideas are stupid. ;-) But i thing
the following questions have to be answered:

1) Is there a tool like Lucene that can index pdf-files as they are
   stored by orgmode (directory structure)?
2) Is it possible to send a query to this tool from within emacs?
3) Is it possible to "import" the answer of the tool into emacs and
   combine it with orgmode so that the result looks somehow like this:
   "Search string 'XX' found in file 'article.pdf' attached to task
   'Title of the article'". A click on the name of the attachment
   should open the pdf-file in the pdf-reader; a click on the task
   name should show the task in the org-buffer.

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[Orgmode] Searching inside of attachments (pdf, odt)?

[Karl Maihofer]

Hi,

does anyone use something like Lucene[*] with orgmode to search inside  
attachments like pdf- and odt-files? At the moment I use org for  
time-planning and a stand-alone Confluence wiki for knowledge  
management (which uses Lucene to index attachments). My "knowledge  
management" mainly consists of a large amount of pdf-files. If I could  
search inside attachments with org, I could perhaps switch to an  
Emacs-only solution. That would be awesome.


Kind regards,
Karl

[*] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucene






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Re: [Orgmode] Error when exporting as Latex

[Karl Maihofer]

Others may correct me but I think this is the same issue I had 
yesterday. The reason is that the two versions of Org - the one shipped 
with your Emacs and the latest one you installed by yourself conflict in 
some way. Some time ago the lisp-file for LaTeX export was renamed - 
perhaps this is why you get an error. My solution was to rename the 
Org-lisp-files in c:/bin/emacs-22.3/lisp/textmodes/. For example 
org-export-latex.elc gets org-export-latex.elc_save and so on. After 
that Emacs can only find the latest Org-version.


I then had to add

(require 'org-latex)

to my ~/.emacs. Hope that helps.


Karl


Paul Mead schrieb:

Hi

I've only just spotted this error as I don't use the Latex export very
often. When I export as Latex either to file or buffer, I get the
following error:

org-export-latex-lists: Wrong number of arguments: #[(list)
"\"" [list org-list-to-generic (:splicep nil :ostart
"\\begin{enumerate}" :oend "\\end{enumerate}" :ustart "\\begin{itemize}"
:uend "\\end{itemize}" ...)] 3
("c:/bin/emacs-22.3/lisp/textmodes/org-export-latex.elc" . 39820)], 2

I've tested this on a file which is unchanged from when I last
successfully exported it, many org versions ago.

Org-mode version 6.28trans
GNU Emacs 22.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2008-09-06 on SOFT-MJASON

Any ideas?

Thanks, Paul



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Re: [Orgmode] Latest Org and Carbon Emacs

[Karl Maihofer]

Thanks! I was able to find the org-lisp-files of the old org-version 
with "locate-library". Then I renamed the files and added the following 
to my configuration:


(require 'org-latex)

Now LaTeX export works!

Thanks again!

Karl

Nick Dokos schrieb:

Karl Maihofer  wrote:

  

Until now I used Org with Debian GNU/Linux. Today I bought a MacBook
Pro 13" and I spent the evening making my first steps with MacOS. I
installed the Carbon Emacs package and configured Emacs to use the
latest Org-Version that I copied to ~/elisp/org-mode/.

(add-to-list 'load-path "~/elisp/org-mode/lisp/")
(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.org\\'" . org-mode))

When I try to export an org-file to LaTeX I get the following error:

org-export-latex-first-lines: Symbol's function definition is void:
org-cleaned-string-for-export

I think I saw this error already some time ago and the reason was,
that an old org-version conflicts with the one I use. Under Debian I
renamed the Org-elisp-files in the Emacs-Program-Directory and the
problem was solved. But under MacOS I cannot find these files - as I
wrote, I am completely new to MacOS. I scanned the Folders
/Applications/Emacs.app/* but couldn't find the org elisp files.

Could anybody give me a hint where to find the files and how to solve
my problem?




You are missing a

(require 'org-install)

after the  load path is set.

HTH,
Nick

PS. Checking org-version is always a good idea: M-x org-version

You can find where emacs is picking up the files by evaluating this:
 (locate-library "org")

or interactively:
 M-x locate-library  org 

  




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[Orgmode] Latest Org and Carbon Emacs

[Karl Maihofer]

Until now I used Org with Debian GNU/Linux. Today I bought a MacBook Pro 
13" and I spent the evening making my first steps with MacOS. I 
installed the Carbon Emacs package and configured Emacs to use the 
latest Org-Version that I copied to ~/elisp/org-mode/.


(add-to-list 'load-path "~/elisp/org-mode/lisp/")
(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.org\\'" . org-mode))

When I try to export an org-file to LaTeX I get the following error:

org-export-latex-first-lines: Symbol's function definition is void: 
org-cleaned-string-for-export


I think I saw this error already some time ago and the reason was, that 
an old org-version conflicts with the one I use. Under Debian I renamed 
the Org-elisp-files in the Emacs-Program-Directory and the problem was 
solved. But under MacOS I cannot find these files - as I wrote, I am 
completely new to MacOS. I scanned the Folders /Applications/Emacs.app/* 
but couldn't find the org elisp files.


Could anybody give me a hint where to find the files and how to solve my 
problem?


Thanks!


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Re: [Orgmode] footnote renumber bug

[Karl Maihofer]

Andreas Roehler schrieb:
> after reopening a file with two footnotes inside,
> inserting a third footnote between first and second, it
> fails to renumber it.

Did you try the new "C-u C-c C-x f S" feature of the latest git-version?
Org does not renumber footnotes automatically when they are inserted.
You have to use the command above to do that.

BTW: the third footnote marker in your example is "[fnx:3]". Shouldn't
it be just "[fn:3]"?

Karl



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Re: [Orgmode] Sorting and renumbering footnotes

[Karl Maihofer]

Carsten Dominik  schrieb:

this is now implemented as [r] action in the footnote actions.  [r]
dies only renumbering, no sorting, so you'd have to use 2 commands.


Actually, I just also added [S] as a shortcut for first [r] then [s]


Carsten, thank you VERY much! It works perfect.





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[Orgmode] Sorting and renumbering footnotes

[Karl Maihofer]

I use Org to write quite long documents with many footnotes and I am  
wondering if there is a way to renumber the footnotes when sorting  
with "C-u C-c C-x f s". "n" at the end is not what I am looking for.  
I'd like the footnotes to stay at the position set by  
org-footnote-section.


Simple visual example:

---
* First Headline

Org-mode is for keeping[fn:2] notes, maintaining ToDo lists, doing  
project[fn:3] planning, and

authoring with a fast and effective[fn:1] plain-text system.

[fn:1] Third Footnote.

[fn:2] Frist Footnote.

[fn:3] Second Footnote.

* Second Headline
-

Pressing "C-u C-c C-x f s" resuls in the following:

--
* First Headline

Org-mode is for keeping[fn:2] notes, maintaining ToDo lists, doing  
project[fn:3] planning, and

authoring with a fast and effective[fn:1] plain-text system.

[fn:2] Frist Footnote.

[fn:3] Second Footnote.

[fn:1] Third Footnote.

* Second Headline
---

How can I achieve this:

---
* First Headline

Org-mode is for keeping[fn:1] notes, maintaining ToDo lists, doing  
project[fn:2] planning, and

authoring with a fast and effective[fn:3] plain-text system.

[fn:1] Frist Footnote.

[fn:2] Second Footnote.

[fn:3] Third Footnote.

* Second Headline
--

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[Orgmode] Popup with Weekly Agenda?

[Karl Maihofer]

Hi,

Tassilo integrated the weekly agenda (as a popup) with the awesome
window manager[1]. So whenever the mouse pointer enters a special region
of the desktop, a popup shows the agenda for the current week and
disappears when the mouse is moved away (Have a look at the very nice
screenshot shown in the article).

I was wondering if anybody could imagine a way to do something similar
using other window managers for X, especially Gnome.

Karl

[1]
http://tsdh.wordpress.com/2009/03/04/integrating-emacs-org-mode-with-the-awesome-window-manager/


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Re: [Orgmode] Table of Contents in an extra buffer?

[Karl Maihofer]

Quoting Carsten Dominik :

Bastien has implemented this in org-toc.el which is a contributed package.


Perfekt! Thanks a lot!






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[Orgmode] Table of Contents in an extra buffer?

[Karl Maihofer]

Wouldn't it be useful to have a table of contents in an extra buffer  
to move around quickly in huge org-files as it is possible in  
LaTeX-files with RefTeX?


For me this is a feature that would make Org an even better authoring tool.

Karl




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Re: [Orgmode] How to define TODOs within continuous text the best way?

[Karl Maihofer]

Hi Carsten!

Carsten Dominik schrieb:
> I just pushed this file into the git repository.  Read the file
> commentary for explanations and try it out - I think the
> mechanism work surprisingly well.

Thanks a lot! That seems to be what i was looking for. I just tried the
latest git-version and have still some problems. But I am not a
programmer...

At first i didn't get a lisp/org-inlinetask.elc when i compiled org
(require 'org-inlinetask in my .emacs didn't work). So I added
org-inlinetask.el to the LISPF-List in the Makefile. In the
dependencies-section a added lisp/org-inlinetask.elc: lisp/org.el
lisp/org-exp.el. Now I do have an org-inlinetask.elc. Visibility cycling
now works as expected, so that i think org-inlinetask is loaded correctly.

But the following simple org-file is not exported correctly:

---
* Heading 1

Frist paragraph (heading 1).

*** TODO Inline!

Second paragraph (heading 1).

* Heading 2

First paragraph (heading 2).


Export result is something like this:


1 Heading 1

First paragraph (heading 1).

Second paragraph (heading 1).

2

=>=>=> TODO Inline!

Heading 2

First paragraph (heading 2).
-

HTML-Source is:

-

test



Inhaltsverzeichnis


1 Heading 1 
2 





1 Heading 1 




Frist paragraph (heading 1).



Second paragraph (heading 1).






2 




⇒⇒⇒ TODO Inline!


Heading 2



Frist paragraph (heading 2).



 Autor: Karl
mailto:k...@netbook";>

 Datum: 2009-03-31 17:15:12 CEST
HTML generated by org-mode 6.24trans in emacs 23





Regards,
Karl



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Re: [Orgmode] How to define TODOs within continuous text the best way?

[Karl Maihofer]

Karl Maihofer schrieb:
> #+HTML: 
> 
> I think, this should work for me.
> 
> The only problem now is to exclude the TODO from the HTML-generated
> Table of Contents. Using "#+EXPORT_EXCLUDE_TAGS: exclude" does not work.
> Perhaps a bug in the html-export?

Sorry, no bug, of course. When I mark the TODO-Item not to be exported,
the end-tags of the comment-tags are not exported, too. ;-)

Is there a way only to exclude an item from the table of contents?

Kind regards,
Karl


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Re: [Orgmode] How to define TODOs within continuous text the best way?

[Karl Maihofer]

Hi,

thanks for your answer!

Sebastian Rose schrieb:
> Yes, this is possible. By default only the first three levels are
> exported as headlines. Any headline that is deeper nested, is exported
> as a list item.
> 
> The variable in question is
> 
>`org-export-headline-levels'

OK, I see. But now the text below the TODO-item is still part of the
list. So it is indented - in html.

Another idea: Why not simply use comments?

#+HTML: 

I think, this should work for me.

The only problem now is to exclude the TODO from the HTML-generated
Table of Contents. Using "#+EXPORT_EXCLUDE_TAGS: exclude" does not work.
Perhaps a bug in the html-export?

> I have several commands like that defined (\rzidea, ...) and some
> produce a box with an icon and frame, that does not use the margin.

That looks nice. But I think this is not the right solution for me?! For
me it is important that the TODOs are recognized by Org-Mode so that I
can jump to the position within my document using the agenda. In the
exported version of the file it is no problem when the TODOs are missing.

Thanks again and
Kind regards,

Karl



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[Orgmode] How to define TODOs within continuous text the best way?

[Karl Maihofer]

Hi,

I write some articles in Org-Mode and use the html and latex export
function. I'm wondering about how to define TODOs within the text the
best way. I hope my bad english lasts to explain what I mean exactly:

I'd like to define a TODO like in the example below. When there is a
task somewhere in my text (I want to look something up etc.) I want to
define this task at the relevant position in my text. So I can lookup
all TODOs using the agenda-view and jump directly to the position in my
text.

The problem is that a TODO is always a new heading and so it is exported
in my html(latex)-version as a heading. I would prefer to format a TODO
as a text box or at least to exclude it from the html(latex)-export so
that it is only visible in org-mode - not in the exported version. But
when I exclude the TODO so that it isn't exported anymore, not only the
TODO itself but also the text below the TODO isn't exported until there
is a new heading - because the TODO itself is a heading, too.

I know that this is because Org-Mode is an outliner-mode, TODOs always
have to be defined with a beginning "*". But is there any possibility to
solve the problem? How do you define TODOs within the text when you use
Org-Mode as an authoring tool?

Perhaps it is possible to define TODOs as a very deep-level heading,
that isn't needed, like "** TODO text" and change the export
function that this level isn't exported as a heading but as a
"div"-Container? Or every heading that contains "TODO" is not exported
as a heading but as a div-container?

What is the best way to handle TODOs within continuous text?

Kind regards,
Karl

---
* Heading 1

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consetetur sadipscing elitr, sed diam nonumy
eirmod tempor invidunt ut labore et dolore magna aliquyam erat, sed diam
voluptua. At vero eos et accusam et justo duo dolores et ea rebum. Stet
clita kasd gubergren, no sea takimata sanctus est Lorem ipsum dolor sit
amet.

* TODO Check again (or ** TODO text?)

This paragraph still belongs to heading 1. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet,
consetetur sadipscing elitr, sed diam nonumy eirmod tempor invidunt ut
labore et dolore magna aliquyam erat, sed diam voluptua. At vero eos et
accusam et justo duo dolores et ea rebum. Stet clita kasd gubergren, no
sea takimata sanctus est Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet.

* Heading 2

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consetetur sadipscing elitr, sed diam nonumy
eirmod tempor invidunt ut labore et dolore magna aliquyam erat, sed diam
voluptua. At vero eos et accusam et justo duo dolores et ea rebum. Stet
clita kasd gubergren, no sea takimata sanctus est Lorem ipsum dolor sit
amet.

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Re: [Orgmode] Large Font in Column-View

[Karl Maihofer]

Hi Carsten,

thanks for your help!

Carsten Dominik schrieb:
> Is this change reversed when you exit column view?

Yes, it is reversed.

> Does it affect the columns only, or the text between headlines as well?

I think the problem was "Org-Font-Lock / Org-Faces / Org-Column /
Height". It was set to something like 110. I changed it to "80" and
column-view looks like i what it to.

Thanks again!

Karl


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[Orgmode] Large Font in Column-View

[Karl Maihofer]

Hi,

when I switch to column-view the font size increases. I don't really
know since when this happens on my system...

I use Emacs 23.0.91.1 (todays cvs version) and Org-Mode 6.24b. I tried
to start Emacs without any modifications (without ~/.emacs), too - but
the same problem.

Any ideas?

Kind regards,
Karl



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Re: [Orgmode] Hyperlinks in column-view?

[Karl Maihofer]

Carsten Dominik schrieb:
> However, you can use C-c C-o normally when the cursor is
> on a column field containing a link.

Thanks, Carsten!

Regards,
Karl


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[Orgmode] Hyperlinks in column-view?

[Karl Maihofer]

Hi,

thank you very much for sharing this wonderful piece of software!

I'd like to build a little database containing contact information. To
view the entries, I chose the very nice column-view. Is it possible to
realise hyperlinks in column-view so that a click on an e-mail adress
opens my e-mail client?

Regards,
Karl


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