Re: [Orgmode] Re: [PATCH] only display a scheduled item if it is due today or in the past
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 2:00 AM, Livin Stephen Sharma livin.step...@gmail.com wrote: To to 'hide' the graph, I set both org-habit-preceding,following-days to 0 . Very cool -- that will get rid of the error that shows up at the bottom of my agenda. The error says something about the datatype of org-habit-graph-column :-) On Jun 24, 2010, at 05:25:07 , Nathan Neff wrote: org-habit-graph-column to -1 then it successfully hides the graph. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: [PATCH] only display a scheduled item if it is due today or in the past
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 4, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Matthew Lundin wrote: Hi Carsten, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: can someone please summarize what the status of this discussion is? I have lost track I apologize for commenting on this issue again, but I wanted to share my solution. First, maybe my use-case is slightly different than everyone else's, but here it is: I'm looking for jobs currently, and I want a reminder to Check Monster.com every two days. But, I do not want this item to show up in my weekly agenda 3 separate times. I tried org-habit, but I do not want the red/green habit graph showing up in my agenda. It's just a personal preference. So, I set up an item like this: *** TODO Check Monster.com SCHEDULED: 2010-06-16 Wed .+2d :PROPERTIES: :STYLE:habit :END: I tried the skip-function mentioned here, and couldn't get it to work, so I tried org-habit again, and I found that if I set org-habit-show-habits-only-for-today to not-nil and if I set org-habit-graph-column to -1 then it successfully hides the graph. So, that's my solution, and it's great for only seeing these habits once, and not littering up my agenda with future TODOs with these habits. I'm using Org 6.35 Hope this helps, --Nate As I understand it, the proposed patch hides items scheduled in the future in the weekly agenda. E.g., if it is Monday, tasks scheduled for Friday with a STYLE=hidden property would not appear under the Friday slot in the weekly agenda. I believe this is a perfect scenario for a skip-function. I offered an example in this post: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/24856/focus=25595 If you do decide to apply the patch, I would request that an option be added to turn off the check for a STYLE=hidden property, so as to minimize any undesired expenses in constructing the agenda. My argument is that if a test can be accommodated by current configuration options (e.g., the skip-function) and is unlikely to be invoked by a significant number of users, it should not be hard-coded. Thanks Matt. I follow your argument. This certainly should be configurable, but in fact I think this can indeed easily be done with a skip function like you showed. And I do not understand the point of the weekly agenda. The whole point of the weekly agenda is to show what will be coming up during he next dasy, so in a way hiding items that are scheduled on those days is defeating the purpose of the weekly agenda. Greetings - Carsten Best, Matt - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: [PATCH] only display a scheduled item if it is due today or in the past
On Jun 4, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Matthew Lundin wrote: Hi Carsten, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: can someone please summarize what the status of this discussion is? I have lost track As I understand it, the proposed patch hides items scheduled in the future in the weekly agenda. E.g., if it is Monday, tasks scheduled for Friday with a STYLE=hidden property would not appear under the Friday slot in the weekly agenda. I believe this is a perfect scenario for a skip-function. I offered an example in this post: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/24856/focus=25595 If you do decide to apply the patch, I would request that an option be added to turn off the check for a STYLE=hidden property, so as to minimize any undesired expenses in constructing the agenda. My argument is that if a test can be accommodated by current configuration options (e.g., the skip-function) and is unlikely to be invoked by a significant number of users, it should not be hard-coded. Thanks Matt. I follow your argument. This certainly should be configurable, but in fact I think this can indeed easily be done with a skip function like you showed. And I do not understand the point of the weekly agenda. The whole point of the weekly agenda is to show what will be coming up during he next dasy, so in a way hiding items that are scheduled on those days is defeating the purpose of the weekly agenda. Greetings - Carsten Best, Matt - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: [PATCH] only display a scheduled item if it is due today or in the past
Hi, can someone please summarize what the status of this discussion is? I have lost track Thanks! - Carsten On May 22, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Nathaniel Flath wrote: Yes, this patch is primarily for weekly agendas - it changes when items are displayed to be the same as having a style of 'habit, while also allowing to do it for non-recurring items. org-agenda-repeating-timestamp-show-all doesn't do quite what I want - I want the item to not show on my weekly agenda if it isn't scheduled for today, where that will make it show a maximum of once. I'd be wiling to write a personal skip function - I mainly did it this way because I was emulating org-habit, and then I thought it may be useful to other people. This is what I'll fall back to if you decide not to install this patch. Thanks, Nahtaniel Flath On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote: Nathaniel Flath flat0...@gmail.com writes: On May 2, 2010, at 7:37 PM, Nathaniel Flath wrote: One thing I've wanted from org-mode is the ability to have certain items 'hidden' from the agenda until the day they are scheduled - this patch implements this for all properties who have a STYLE property of 'hidden'. I ended up implementing this(the patch is attached), and thought I'd contribute it to org-mode. If you have any comments, please let me know. The primary use I have for it is essentially what Nathan said - it controls display or recurring items to be the same as habits, with the exception of not displaying the habit graph. To avoid seeing future instances of recurring tasks, you can set the variable org-agenda-repeating-timestamp-show-all to nil. I also use it when scheduling items that can't be started before a certain date. For example, I recently got a note that my tax return was being inverstigated and that I should contact the IRS in 30 days. Now, I schedule this item for 30 days from now, but in 23 days it starts showing up in my weekly agenda, even though there's nothing that can be done about it at that point. I'd much rather have it only display when it can actually be worked on. I'm still a bit confused about this patch. By definition, scheduled items do not appear on the agenda until the day on which they are scheduled. As I understand it, this patch is primarily for weekly agendas---i.e., to prevent items scheduled on Friday from appearing under the Friday slot until it is indeed Friday. In that case, why not use the daily agenda instead of the weekly agenda? Would it perhaps be better to write a personal skip function that handles this instead of hard-coding another test in org-agenda.el? Best, Matt - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: [PATCH] only display a scheduled item if it is due today or in the past
Hi Carsten, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: can someone please summarize what the status of this discussion is? I have lost track As I understand it, the proposed patch hides items scheduled in the future in the weekly agenda. E.g., if it is Monday, tasks scheduled for Friday with a STYLE=hidden property would not appear under the Friday slot in the weekly agenda. I believe this is a perfect scenario for a skip-function. I offered an example in this post: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/24856/focus=25595 If you do decide to apply the patch, I would request that an option be added to turn off the check for a STYLE=hidden property, so as to minimize any undesired expenses in constructing the agenda. My argument is that if a test can be accommodated by current configuration options (e.g., the skip-function) and is unlikely to be invoked by a significant number of users, it should not be hard-coded. Best, Matt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: [PATCH] only display a scheduled item if it is due today or in the past
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Matthew Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote: Nathaniel Flath flat0...@gmail.com writes: Yes, this patch is primarily for weekly agendas - it changes when items are displayed to be the same as having a style of 'habit, while also allowing to do it for non-recurring items. Do you mean that it is the same as when org-habit-show-habits-only-for-today is set to t? From what I gather, it is almost the same except that the agenda entry does NOT show the habit-grid. org-agenda-repeating-timestamp-show-all doesn't do quite what I want - I want the item to not show on my weekly agenda if it isn't scheduled for today, where that will make it show a maximum of once. I'd be wiling to write a personal skip function - I mainly did it this way because I was emulating org-habit, and then I thought it may be useful to other people. This is what I'll fall back to if you decide not to install this patch. Nathaniel, can you forward me your personal skip function if you write one? Thanks, --Nate ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: [PATCH] only display a scheduled item if it is due today or in the past
Yes, this patch is primarily for weekly agendas - it changes when items are displayed to be the same as having a style of 'habit, while also allowing to do it for non-recurring items. org-agenda-repeating-timestamp-show-all doesn't do quite what I want - I want the item to not show on my weekly agenda if it isn't scheduled for today, where that will make it show a maximum of once. I'd be wiling to write a personal skip function - I mainly did it this way because I was emulating org-habit, and then I thought it may be useful to other people. This is what I'll fall back to if you decide not to install this patch. Thanks, Nahtaniel Flath On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote: Nathaniel Flath flat0...@gmail.com writes: On May 2, 2010, at 7:37 PM, Nathaniel Flath wrote: One thing I've wanted from org-mode is the ability to have certain items 'hidden' from the agenda until the day they are scheduled - this patch implements this for all properties who have a STYLE property of 'hidden'. I ended up implementing this(the patch is attached), and thought I'd contribute it to org-mode. If you have any comments, please let me know. The primary use I have for it is essentially what Nathan said - it controls display or recurring items to be the same as habits, with the exception of not displaying the habit graph. To avoid seeing future instances of recurring tasks, you can set the variable org-agenda-repeating-timestamp-show-all to nil. I also use it when scheduling items that can't be started before a certain date. For example, I recently got a note that my tax return was being inverstigated and that I should contact the IRS in 30 days. Now, I schedule this item for 30 days from now, but in 23 days it starts showing up in my weekly agenda, even though there's nothing that can be done about it at that point. I'd much rather have it only display when it can actually be worked on. I'm still a bit confused about this patch. By definition, scheduled items do not appear on the agenda until the day on which they are scheduled. As I understand it, this patch is primarily for weekly agendas---i.e., to prevent items scheduled on Friday from appearing under the Friday slot until it is indeed Friday. In that case, why not use the daily agenda instead of the weekly agenda? Would it perhaps be better to write a personal skip function that handles this instead of hard-coding another test in org-agenda.el? Best, Matt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: [PATCH] only display a scheduled item if it is due today or in the past
Nathaniel Flath flat0...@gmail.com writes: Yes, this patch is primarily for weekly agendas - it changes when items are displayed to be the same as having a style of 'habit, while also allowing to do it for non-recurring items. Do you mean that it is the same as when org-habit-show-habits-only-for-today is set to t? org-agenda-repeating-timestamp-show-all doesn't do quite what I want - I want the item to not show on my weekly agenda if it isn't scheduled for today, where that will make it show a maximum of once. I'd be wiling to write a personal skip function - I mainly did it this way because I was emulating org-habit, and then I thought it may be useful to other people. This is what I'll fall back to if you decide not to install this patch. My main concern about the patch is that, unlike org-habit, the test is not optional, so it adds an extra expense (however small) for everyone who uses the agenda regardless of whether they want the test or not. I believe this good scenario for using an org-agenda-skip-function. Does the following skip function/custom command accomplish what you are looking for? --8---cut here---start-8--- (defun my-org-skip-hidden-if-future () (let ((end-entry (save-excursion (or (outline-next-heading) (org-end-of-subtree (scheduled (org-entry-get nil SCHEDULED)) (hidden (when (string= (org-entry-get nil STYLE) hidden) t))) (when (and hidden scheduled) (if (= (- (org-time-string-to-absolute scheduled) (calendar-absolute-from-gregorian (calendar-current-date))) 0) nil end-entry (setq org-agenda-custom-commands '((x Weekly agenda with hidden future agenda ((org-agenda-ndays 7) (org-agenda-skip-function 'my-org-skip-hidden-if-future) (org-agenda-start-day nil) --8---cut here---end---8--- When I call it on the following subtree... --8---cut here---start-8--- * Test ** TODO Hidden and future SCHEDULED: 2010-05-23 Sun :PROPERTIES: :STYLE:hidden :END: ** TODO Hidden and past SCHEDULED: 2010-05-20 Thu :PROPERTIES: :STYLE:hidden :END: ** TODO Hidden and today SCHEDULED: 2010-05-22 Sat :PROPERTIES: :STYLE:hidden :END: --8---cut here---end---8--- ...I get this agenda output... --8---cut here---start-8--- Week-agenda (W20-W21): Saturday 22 May 2010 inbox: Sched. 3x: TODO Hidden and past inbox: Scheduled: TODO Hidden and today Sunday 23 May 2010 Monday 24 May 2010 W21 Tuesday25 May 2010 Wednesday 26 May 2010 Thursday 27 May 2010 Friday 28 May 2010 --8---cut here---end---8--- HTH, Matt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: [PATCH] only display a scheduled item if it is due today or in the past
Nathaniel Flath flat0...@gmail.com writes: On May 2, 2010, at 7:37 PM, Nathaniel Flath wrote: One thing I've wanted from org-mode is the ability to have certain items 'hidden' from the agenda until the day they are scheduled - this patch implements this for all properties who have a STYLE property of 'hidden'. I ended up implementing this(the patch is attached), and thought I'd contribute it to org-mode. If you have any comments, please let me know. The primary use I have for it is essentially what Nathan said - it controls display or recurring items to be the same as habits, with the exception of not displaying the habit graph. To avoid seeing future instances of recurring tasks, you can set the variable org-agenda-repeating-timestamp-show-all to nil. I also use it when scheduling items that can't be started before a certain date. For example, I recently got a note that my tax return was being inverstigated and that I should contact the IRS in 30 days. Now, I schedule this item for 30 days from now, but in 23 days it starts showing up in my weekly agenda, even though there's nothing that can be done about it at that point. I'd much rather have it only display when it can actually be worked on. I'm still a bit confused about this patch. By definition, scheduled items do not appear on the agenda until the day on which they are scheduled. As I understand it, this patch is primarily for weekly agendas---i.e., to prevent items scheduled on Friday from appearing under the Friday slot until it is indeed Friday. In that case, why not use the daily agenda instead of the weekly agenda? Would it perhaps be better to write a personal skip function that handles this instead of hard-coding another test in org-agenda.el? Best, Matt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
