Re: @string abbreviation in bib file not honored in (basic) org-cite

2022-11-07 Thread Joost Kremers
On Sat, Nov 05 2022, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Mmm.. By manually checking magit log. It can provide extra highlight for > things that have been changed and also moved around (which is more > accurate than raw LOC count from git). > > And I missed one of the aikrahguzar's commits. With f41befa,

Re: @string abbreviation in bib file not honored in (basic) org-cite

2022-11-05 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Joost Kremers writes: >> aikrahguzar -- TINYCHANGE > > How did you determine this, if I may ask? aikrahguzar's contribution at first > sight seems more involved, though I admit part of those changes is stuff being > moved around. Mmm.. By manually checking magit log. It can provide extra

Re: @string abbreviation in bib file not honored in (basic) org-cite

2022-11-04 Thread Joost Kremers
On Thu, Nov 03 2022, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > The rules are in > https://www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/maintain.html#Legally-Significant > > Shuguang Sun contributed TINYCHANGE (no need for copyright assignment; >though he contributed ~15LOC and it is on the edge) > Martin R. Albrecht also

Re: @string abbreviation in bib file not honored in (basic) org-cite

2022-11-03 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Joost Kremers writes: > On Sun, Oct 30 2022, Ihor Radchenko wrote: >> May I know if there is any update on the copyright assignment situation? >> If you need any help, we can provide it. > > I have signed the form and sent it in, and I have received the counter-signed > form back from the FSF.

Re: @string abbreviation in bib file not honored in (basic) org-cite

2022-11-02 Thread Joost Kremers
On Sun, Oct 30 2022, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > May I know if there is any update on the copyright assignment situation? > If you need any help, we can provide it. I have signed the form and sent it in, and I have received the counter-signed form back from the FSF. Parsebib's Github page mentions

Re: @string abbreviation in bib file not honored in (basic) org-cite

2022-10-30 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Joost writes: > On Thu, 28 Jul 2022, at 14:12, Ihor Radchenko wrote: >> Did you manage to get the copyright form from FSF? >> They are supposed to respond within 5 working days. > > Yeah, I have the form. I signed it and scanned it, just haven't sent it off > yet... May I know if there is any

Re: @string abbreviation in bib file not honored in (basic) org-cite [and a minimal working example with natbib]

2022-08-07 Thread Ihor Radchenko
alain.coch...@unistra.fr writes: > alain.coch...@unistra.fr writes on Sat 9 Jul 2022 08:10: > > > the examples I found on this mailing list did not work for me). > > I think I now understand why this was so: because latexmk was not > installed on my system. In this case the docstring of >

Re: @string abbreviation in bib file not honored in (basic) org-cite

2022-07-29 Thread Joost
On Thu, 28 Jul 2022, at 14:12, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Did you manage to get the copyright form from FSF? > They are supposed to respond within 5 working days. Yeah, I have the form. I signed it and scanned it, just haven't sent it off yet... -- Joost Kremers Life has its moments

Re: @string abbreviation in bib file not honored in (basic) org-cite

2022-07-28 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Joost Kremers writes: > On Tue, Jul 19 2022, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: >>> So does this mean there is no longer any reason to add parsebib to (Non-)GNU >>> ELPA? >> >> No, since parsebib is an important dependency for citeproc-el, and >> Ihor was suggesting Andras try to get that in ELPA. > > Ok,

Re: @string abbreviation in bib file not honored in (basic) org-cite

2022-07-20 Thread Joost Kremers
On Tue, Jul 19 2022, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: >> So does this mean there is no longer any reason to add parsebib to (Non-)GNU >> ELPA? > > No, since parsebib is an important dependency for citeproc-el, and > Ihor was suggesting Andras try to get that in ELPA. Ok, thanks. Sending my copyright

Re: @string abbreviation in bib file not honored in (basic) org-cite

2022-07-19 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 4:37 PM Joost Kremers wrote: > > > On Sun, Jul 17 2022, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > > alain.coch...@unistra.fr writes: > > > >> My .bib file is > >> > >>@string{jgr="J. Geophys. Res."} > >>@ARTICLE{chouet88, > >>journal=jgr, > >>author={Chouet, B.},

Re: @string abbreviation in bib file not honored in (basic) org-cite

2022-07-19 Thread Joost Kremers
On Sun, Jul 17 2022, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > alain.coch...@unistra.fr writes: > >> My .bib file is >> >>@string{jgr="J. Geophys. Res."} >>@ARTICLE{chouet88, >>journal=jgr, >>author={Chouet, B.}, title={Resonance of a fluid-driven crack: [...]}, >>year={1988}, volume={93},

Re: @string abbreviation in bib file not honored in (basic) org-cite

2022-07-17 Thread Alain . Cochard
Ihor Radchenko writes on Sun 17 Jul 2022 16:26: > Fixed on main via c550a4290. > > After discussion with Emacs devs, it turned out that there is a way to > make bibtex.el parse and substitute @string abbreviations. I don't know what "Fixed on main via c550a4290" means, but I just made a

Re: @string abbreviation in bib file not honored in (basic) org-cite

2022-07-17 Thread Ihor Radchenko
alain.coch...@unistra.fr writes: > My .bib file is > >@string{jgr="J. Geophys. Res."} >@ARTICLE{chouet88, >journal=jgr, >author={Chouet, B.}, title={Resonance of a fluid-driven crack: [...]}, >year={1988}, volume={93}, number={B5}, pages={4375-4400} Fixed on main via

Re: @string abbreviation in bib file not honored in (basic) org-cite [and a minimal working example with natbib]

2022-07-12 Thread Alain . Cochard
alain.coch...@unistra.fr writes on Sat 9 Jul 2022 08:10: > the examples I found on this mailing list did not work for me). I think I now understand why this was so: because latexmk was not installed on my system. In this case the docstring of org-latex-pdf-process says that Its value is

Re: @string abbreviation in bib file not honored in (basic) org-cite [and a minimal working example with natbib]

2022-07-12 Thread András Simonyi
On Tue, 12 Jul 2022 at 13:36, John Kitchin wrote: > Maybe it is still needed so the tooltip looks nice. currently, oc-basic.el contains the single activation (fontification) processor (called "basic") shipped with Org, the other oc-*.el files provide only export processors. best wishes,

Re: @string abbreviation in bib file not honored in (basic) org-cite [and a minimal working example with natbib]

2022-07-12 Thread John Kitchin
Maybe it is still needed so the tooltip looks nice. On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 7:15 AM András Simonyi wrote: > Dear All, > > On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 at 09:17, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > > > AFAIU, oc-natbib/oc-bibtex also do not support @string because they also > > rely upon the built-in Emacs parser

Re: @string abbreviation in bib file not honored in (basic) org-cite [and a minimal working example with natbib]

2022-07-12 Thread András Simonyi
Dear All, On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 at 09:17, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > AFAIU, oc-natbib/oc-bibtex also do not support @string because they also > rely upon the built-in Emacs parser for bib files. > I have submitted a bug report to Emacs devs [1]. Hopefully it can be > fixed on Emacs side without a

Re: Can citeproc be installed without using MELPA? (was: @string abbreviation in bib file not honored in (basic) org-cite)

2022-07-12 Thread András Simonyi
Dear All, On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 at 04:05, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > >> Then, I am wondering if parsebib can be added to ELPA or at least > >> non-GNU ELPA. The same can be said for all other dependencies of > >> citeproc.el and for citeproc itself. > non-GNU ELPA is also fine. The idea is to avoid

Re: Can citeproc be installed without using MELPA? (was: @string abbreviation in bib file not honored in (basic) org-cite)

2022-07-10 Thread Ihor Radchenko
Joost Kremers writes: >>> looking into the source code (parsebib.el), the library seems to be >>> under a BSD-type license. > > Yes, it is. It's a single file and the license is at the top. I can add a > separate license file if that's necessary. It is not required. Just a bit confusing -

Re: Can citeproc be installed without using MELPA? (was: @string abbreviation in bib file not honored in (basic) org-cite)

2022-07-10 Thread Joost Kremers
On Sun, Jul 10 2022, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > András Simonyi writes: > >>> The problem with parsebib is that it does not even have license >>> (I do not see any in https://github.com/joostkremers/parsebib). If >>> parsebib were a part of Emacs core or at least a part of ELPA, we would >>> also

Can citeproc be installed without using MELPA? (was: @string abbreviation in bib file not honored in (basic) org-cite)

2022-07-10 Thread Ihor Radchenko
András Simonyi writes: >> The problem with parsebib is that it does not even have license >> (I do not see any in https://github.com/joostkremers/parsebib). If >> parsebib were a part of Emacs core or at least a part of ELPA, we would >> also be able to use it in Org core. > > looking into the

Re: @string abbreviation in bib file not honored in (basic) org-cite [and a minimal working example with natbib]

2022-07-10 Thread Ihor Radchenko
alain.coch...@unistra.fr writes: > Is someone using natbib/bibtex (say) expected to never ever use > 'basic'? (I don't know.) If so, perhaps there is indeed no need to > implement the feature. Otherwise, it seems to me that not > implementing it amounts to having to give up on @string

Re: @string abbreviation in bib file not honored in (basic) org-cite [and a minimal working example with natbib]

2022-07-09 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 2:10 AM wrote: > I take the opportunity to say that I think that the simple > self-contained example > >#+bibliography: references.bib >[cite:@key] >#+print_bibliography: > > should be part of the manual, especially since the > 2021-07-31-citations post does

Re: @string abbreviation in bib file not honored in (basic) org-cite

2022-07-09 Thread András Simonyi
Dear All, On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 at 05:55, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > The problem with parsebib is that it does not even have license > (I do not see any in https://github.com/joostkremers/parsebib). If > parsebib were a part of Emacs core or at least a part of ELPA, we would > also be able to use it

Re: @string abbreviation in bib file not honored in (basic) org-cite [and a minimal working example with natbib]

2022-07-09 Thread Alain . Cochard
Bruce D'Arcus writes on Fri 8 Jul 2022 08:05: > On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 7:25 AM wrote: > > > As I do not know which of these alternatives > > > >- it is normal, this feature should not be there, > >- it is an oversight, > >- this feature is not implemented yet, > > I

Re: @string abbreviation in bib file not honored in (basic) org-cite

2022-07-08 Thread Ihor Radchenko
"Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 7:25 AM wrote: > >> As I do not know which of these alternatives >> >>- it is normal, this feature should not be there, >>- it is an oversight, >>- this feature is not implemented yet, > > I believe this is the answer, and it's

Re: @string abbreviation in bib file not honored in (basic) org-cite

2022-07-08 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 7:25 AM wrote: > As I do not know which of these alternatives > >- it is normal, this feature should not be there, >- it is an oversight, >- this feature is not implemented yet, I believe this is the answer, and it's arguable (I have no opinion, and could see

@string abbreviation in bib file not honored in (basic) org-cite

2022-07-08 Thread Alain . Cochard
Hello. As I do not know which of these alternatives - it is normal, this feature should not be there, - it is an oversight, - this feature is not implemented yet, - it does not work for me for some reason, - other, is valid, I decided to report this minor issue. Specifically, I