Matt Lundin writes:
> Hi John,
>
> John Kitchin writes:
>
>> If a reference type is not listed in the CSL, it also will not be
>> supported by CSL I suppose.
>
> How is this different than biblatex or bibtex? A user could just modify
> the style or put in a request with a maintainer.
Its not di
Hi John,
John Kitchin writes:
> If a reference type is not listed in the CSL, it also will not be
> supported by CSL I suppose.
How is this different than biblatex or bibtex? A user could just modify
the style or put in a request with a maintainer.
> I also suppose the CSL must be backend spe
>
> Yes. And CSL and biblatex are far more complex and robust than bibtex.
> :) I use biblatex (biblatex-chicago), which finally gives those of us in
> the humanities robust automation of complex footnote styles. One of my
> dreams for citation processing in org mode is to be able to achieve in
>
Hi John,
John Kitchin writes:
> > I am not yet convinced a citation processor will get us where we
> want
> > because of the complexity of the external dependencies, and the
> > potential/probable need for us to define new CSL files for
> different
> > backends, or at a m
> > I am not yet convinced a citation processor will get us where we want
> > because of the complexity of the external dependencies, and the
> > potential/probable need for us to define new CSL files for different
> > backends, or at a minimum for org-formatted citations and
> > bibliographies. Ha
On Thursday, 3 Dec 2015 at 18:31, John Kitchin wrote:
> I clearly had some super important academic work to do today, so instead
> I played around with citations ;)
Hey, I am doing just that right now ;-)
> I am not yet convinced a citation processor will get us where we want
> because of the co
John Kitchin writes:
>
> I am not yet convinced a citation processor will get us where we want
> because of the complexity of the external dependencies, and the
> potential/probable need for us to define new CSL files for different
> backends, or at a minimum for org-formatted citations and
> bibl
>> What do you think?
>
> My guess is that it is orders of magnitudes harder with author (year) and
> footnotes and whatnot.
footnotes... The only place I can see this is in org/odt export. In org
I can see it ok with the approach I described. For odt, I guess it would
be about the same, if you kn
John Kitchin writes:
> I clearly had some super important academic work to do today, so instead
> I played around with citations ;)
>
> I am not yet convinced a citation processor will get us where we want
> because of the complexity of the external dependencies, and the
> potential/probable need
I clearly had some super important academic work to do today, so instead
I played around with citations ;)
I am not yet convinced a citation processor will get us where we want
because of the complexity of the external dependencies, and the
potential/probable need for us to define new CSL files fo
Hi,
Thomas S. Dye writes:
> At the risk of introducing noise, I've long wondered if tex4ht might
> help with citation processing in Org mode? IIUC, tex4ht uses the
> device-independent dvi file produced by TeX to make html, odt, and other
> formats. With an Org mode that relied on tex4ht, users
Matt Lundin writes:
>
> If we chose node, we could try to package the wrapper script so it can
> be installed via npm. Then the installation process would be:
>
> a) install node
> b) npm install citeproc-js-wrapper [or whatever]
I forgot. They would need to install npm as well.
Matt
Hi Richard,
Thanks so much for this very helpful explanation!
Richard Lawrence writes:
> Hi Matt and all,
>
> Matt Lundin writes:
>
>> But for bibtex users, wouldn't there presumably have to be another
>> zotero plugin that would allow for live, automated importing of bibtex
>> into zotero? (
Aloha all,
At the risk of introducing noise, I've long wondered if tex4ht might
help with citation processing in Org mode? IIUC, tex4ht uses the
device-independent dvi file produced by TeX to make html, odt, and other
formats. With an Org mode that relied on tex4ht, users would use BibTeX
bibliog
Hi Matt and all,
Matt Lundin writes:
> But for bibtex users, wouldn't there presumably have to be another
> zotero plugin that would allow for live, automated importing of bibtex
> into zotero? (If anyone knows whether such a plugin exists, please do
> let me know.)
Well, my hope is that this c
Hi Richard,
Richard Lawrence writes:
> Hi Matt and all,
>
> Matt Lundin writes:
>
>> Given these complexities, it seems that if we went the zotero route we
>> could end up with a fairly large installation chain (firefox, zotero,
>> zotxt, plugin for zotero). And this would require installing i
Christian Wittern writes:
> On 2015-12-03 8:27, Matt Lundin wrote:
>> Given these complexities, it seems that if we went the zotero route we
>> could end up with a fairly large installation chain (firefox, zotero,
>> zotxt, plugin for zotero). And this would require installing items from
>> multi
Hi Matt and all,
Matt Lundin writes:
> Given these complexities, it seems that if we went the zotero route we
> could end up with a fairly large installation chain (firefox, zotero,
> zotxt, plugin for zotero). And this would require installing items from
> multiple, heterogeneous sources.
Well
On 2015-12-03 8:27, Matt Lundin wrote:
> Given these complexities, it seems that if we went the zotero route we
> could end up with a fairly large installation chain (firefox, zotero,
> zotxt, plugin for zotero). And this would require installing items from
> multiple, heterogeneous sources.
I gues
Richard Lawrence writes:
> Eric S Fraga writes:
>
>> 2. How would I use this starting from an org-bibtex database (which I
>>typically export to bibtex)?
>
> I can envision a couple of possibilities. One simple option would be to
> switch to managing your reference database with Zotero, by
Hi Rasmus and all,
Rasmus writes:
> Also, last I checked Zotero also existed as a standalone manager. If this
> also works re your points below, using Zotero is a non-issue. There
> exists a plugin to keep a bibtex file up to date. I don’t know if it’s
> two way, though.
I haven't looked int
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Rasmus wrote:
> Hi Richard,
>
> First, thank you for looking into this. I learned something new from this
>
> > Pretty much all the other options we have talked about seem like they
> > will require multi-step, non-trivial installation procedures ("First
> > insta
Hi Richard,
First, thank you for looking into this. I learned something new from this
post.
Richard Lawrence writes:
> 1) It is really easy for users.
I generally don’t buy the arguments a reference manager being nice per
see.
Also, last I checked Zotero also existed as a standalone manager.
On Tue, 01-12-2015, at 01:32, John Kitchin wrote:
> Martin Yrjölä writes:
>
>> Maybe two way sync between BibTeX and Zotero would be sufficient for
>> power users? I know there is already automatic exporters to BibTex for
>> Zotero, but some work needs to be done to make it a two-way sync.
>
>
Hi John and all,
Thanks for your input!
John Kitchin writes:
> This really means you are using bibtex as the reference database
> backend, and probably helm-bibtex to insert citations as org-mode links.
> Bibliography generation is probably managed by LaTeX/Bibtex. org-ref
> mostly provides the
Martin Yrjölä writes:
> Hi Richard.
>
> Thank you for your work on improving citation support for org-mode. I
> have some experiences from using Zotero, but for the moment I'm using
> org-ref[1] to manage my citations.
This really means you are using bibtex as the reference database
backend, and
Dear Eric,
On Mon, 30-11-2015, at 12:35, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> On Saturday, 28 Nov 2015 at 12:16, Richard Lawrence wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> For the past few days, I've been looking more closely at using the
>> combination of Zotero [1] with Erik Hetzner's zotxt plugin [2] as a
>> means of pr
On Saturday, 28 Nov 2015 at 12:16, Richard Lawrence wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> For the past few days, I've been looking more closely at using the
> combination of Zotero [1] with Erik Hetzner's zotxt plugin [2] as a
> means of processing citations when exporting to non-LaTeX backends. I
> am now th
Hi Richard.
Thank you for your work on improving citation support for org-mode. I
have some experiences from using Zotero, but for the moment I'm using
org-ref[1] to manage my citations.
Richard Lawrence writes:
> For the past few days, I've been looking more closely at using the
> combination
Hi everyone,
For the past few days, I've been looking more closely at using the
combination of Zotero [1] with Erik Hetzner's zotxt plugin [2] as a
means of processing citations when exporting to non-LaTeX backends. I
am now thinking that this is probably our best option, but I'd like to
know wha
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