Re: [Orgmode] Re: interacting with word processors (opeonffice, word)

2010-02-05 Thread Matt Price 
On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 01:44 +, Shelagh Manton wrote:
 On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:10:51 +, Eric S Fraga wrote:
 
  At Thu, 04 Feb 2010 09:43:31 -0500,
  Matt Price wrote:
  
  [...]
  
  get documentsl ooking about how I want them to -- the default output of
  the latex export has way too much whitespace for my tastes -- but I
  guess I hsould be able to figure those issues out somehow.  thanks
  again!
  matt
  
  
  If it's the margins giving you too much white space (a common complaint
  from people moving to latex from other types of word or document
  procssors), you could try something along these lines:
  
  --8---cut here---start-8---
  #+latex_header: \usepackage[letterpaper]{geometry} #+latex-header:
  \geometry{verbose,tmargin=3cm,bmargin=3cm,lmargin=3cm,rmargin=3cm}
  --8---cut here---end---8---
  
  untested.  change letterpaper to your actual paper size, of course.
  
  HTH,
  eric
  
 Also the fullpage.sty package will do this for you too. Of course you 
 need to name the size of your paper in the documentclass.
 
 \usepackage[options](fullpage)

thanks for this.  i'll give it a go -- and can i set this permanently
somewhere in my org conf file -- is it something like:

(setq latex_header (\usepackage[letterpaper]{geometry},
\geometry{verbose,tmargin=3cm,bmargin=3cm,lmargin=3cm,rmargin=3cm} ))
anyway thanks so much for all your help thus far!

matt



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Re: [Orgmode] Re: interacting with word processors (opeonffice, word)

2010-02-04 Thread Matt Price 
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 22:00 +, Shelagh Manton wrote:
 On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:40:49 +0200, Rainer M Krug wrote:
 
  On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Matt Price matt.pr...@utoronto.ca
  wrote:
  
  Hi,
 
  I;m getting more and more used to using org for my own writing
  purposes, and love it.  But I still find it pretty difficult to work
  with word-processor users whoexpect to get a doument in .doc or .odt
  formats. I've just found odt2org
  (http://mantiel.wikidot.com/os:odt2org) which looks great for importing
  odt files into org; but my main concern right now is getting things
  from org-mode out into odt or doc.  May i ask what other people tend to
  do in this situation?  I I guess I could export to html, then import in
  Openoffice, then edit  save as odf, but this seems a little
  cumbersome.  If someone has a better solution I'd love to hear it.
 
 
  Oh - and ther is also:
  
  mk4ht oolatex
  
  which converts LaTeX to odt.
  
  Cheers,
  
  Rainer
  
 Wouldn't the org-docbook package be suitable as there are docbook to odt 
 transformers (which makes sense as odt is a type of xml like docbook) 
 
 http://open.comsultia.com/docbook2odf/ might be helpful.
 
 Shelagh
  

thanks to everyone for their advice -- I'm going to try these all out 
if I have any constructive commetns I'll report them back.  It's a
little duanting for me, as a non-latex user, to try to figure out how to
get documentsl ooking about how I want them to -- the default output of
the latex export has way too much whitespace for my tastes -- but I
guess I hsould be able to figure those issues out somehow.  thanks
again!
matt



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Re: [Orgmode] Re: interacting with word processors (opeonffice, word)

2010-02-04 Thread Eric S Fraga 
At Thu, 04 Feb 2010 09:43:31 -0500,
Matt Price wrote:

[...]

 get documentsl ooking about how I want them to -- the default output of
 the latex export has way too much whitespace for my tastes -- but I
 guess I hsould be able to figure those issues out somehow.  thanks
 again!
 matt
 

If it's the margins giving you too much white space (a common
complaint from people moving to latex from other types of word or
document procssors), you could try something along these lines:

--8---cut here---start-8---
#+latex_header: \usepackage[letterpaper]{geometry}
#+latex-header: 
\geometry{verbose,tmargin=3cm,bmargin=3cm,lmargin=3cm,rmargin=3cm}
--8---cut here---end---8---

untested.  change letterpaper to your actual paper size, of course.

HTH,
eric


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[Orgmode] Re: interacting with word processors (opeonffice, word)

2010-02-04 Thread Shelagh Manton 
On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:10:51 +, Eric S Fraga wrote:

 At Thu, 04 Feb 2010 09:43:31 -0500,
 Matt Price wrote:
 
 [...]
 
 get documentsl ooking about how I want them to -- the default output of
 the latex export has way too much whitespace for my tastes -- but I
 guess I hsould be able to figure those issues out somehow.  thanks
 again!
 matt
 
 
 If it's the margins giving you too much white space (a common complaint
 from people moving to latex from other types of word or document
 procssors), you could try something along these lines:
 
 --8---cut here---start-8---
 #+latex_header: \usepackage[letterpaper]{geometry} #+latex-header:
 \geometry{verbose,tmargin=3cm,bmargin=3cm,lmargin=3cm,rmargin=3cm}
 --8---cut here---end---8---
 
 untested.  change letterpaper to your actual paper size, of course.
 
 HTH,
 eric
 
Also the fullpage.sty package will do this for you too. Of course you 
need to name the size of your paper in the documentclass.

\usepackage[options](fullpage)

Shelagh
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[Orgmode] Re: interacting with word processors (opeonffice, word)

2010-02-02 Thread Shelagh Manton 
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:40:49 +0200, Rainer M Krug wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Matt Price matt.pr...@utoronto.ca
 wrote:
 
 Hi,

 I;m getting more and more used to using org for my own writing
 purposes, and love it.  But I still find it pretty difficult to work
 with word-processor users whoexpect to get a doument in .doc or .odt
 formats. I've just found odt2org
 (http://mantiel.wikidot.com/os:odt2org) which looks great for importing
 odt files into org; but my main concern right now is getting things
 from org-mode out into odt or doc.  May i ask what other people tend to
 do in this situation?  I I guess I could export to html, then import in
 Openoffice, then edit  save as odf, but this seems a little
 cumbersome.  If someone has a better solution I'd love to hear it.


 Oh - and ther is also:
 
 mk4ht oolatex
 
 which converts LaTeX to odt.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Rainer
 
Wouldn't the org-docbook package be suitable as there are docbook to odt 
transformers (which makes sense as odt is a type of xml like docbook) 

http://open.comsultia.com/docbook2odf/ might be helpful.

Shelagh
 
 Thanks much,

 Matt

 --
 Matt Price
 matt.pr...@utoronto.ca

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[Orgmode] Re: interacting with word processors (opeonffice, word)

2010-02-02 Thread Matt Lundin 
David Maus maus.da...@gmail.com writes:

 At Tue, 2 Feb 2010 12:55:42 -0600,
 Russell Adams wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 08:44:54PM +0200, Rainer M Krug wrote:
  Hi Matt
 
  try latex2rtf: export org-mode to LaTeX and use latex2rtf to convert it to
  rtf.
  I am using latex2rtf to convert LaTeX code (generated by LyX) into rtf for
  exactly the same purpose.

 That's a great idea!

 Currently I export to HTML and then let Word users import that. It
 preserves most of the formatting that is important to me, though
 external files have to be manually inserted in Word.

 Does RTF help with external references? (ie: embedded images?)

 You may also give tex4ht[1] a shot. I don't use it that often but my
 impression is that it gives better results than latex2rtf

I recommend both latex2rt and tex4ht (i.e., mk4ht oolatex). I use the
former for simple documents (i.e., articles without bibtex references
or special LaTeX packages) and the former for anything more complicated.

Best,
Matt


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