Re: [Orgmode] Re: POLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time
On 27 Aug 2009, at 06:47, Charles Philip Chan wrote: Carsten Dominik domi...@uva.nl writes: [snip] 5. The cursor keys left and right are remapped to a function that does nothing, except showing a message that you should now use f/b to move through time. Looks good, but like others have said, I prefer the left and right keys to move the cursor. (1+ vote) Marking and copying text from the agenda is something that I do often. Or activating a link. So navigating in the agenda's text has its merits. Although I'll probably be blamed for not being a true emacs- devotee, but I do use the arrow keys for that... Cheers, Peter. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: POLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time
On Aug 27, 2009, at 3:05 AM, Samuel Wales wrote: Looks good. However, you might want to have cursor movement work, if the keys will not be functional, so that people can mark text (nobody mentioned that yet). Did you get a chance to look at my proposal for right and left arrow keys? Yes, I did, it is interesting. However, the main purpose of this discussion if to get rid of the confusion caused by pressing the arrow in the agenda, so I thing that really we have only the option to make them do either cursor motion or disable them. Your proposal, to quickly move to a far away date in a predictable way can also be met with the j key, or by using a prefix argument to the left/right (will be b/f) keys. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: POLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time
On Aug 26, 2009, at 8:22 AM, Bastien wrote: Carsten Dominik domi...@uva.nl writes: 1. n/p remain as they where 2. Moving forward/backward though time will be `f' and `b' 3. Follow mode goes to the F key, a capital letter does make sense here given that some other modes like [G]rid and clock[R]eport and [D]iary are on capitals as well. 4. `org-agenda-tree-to-indirect-buffer' is already on `C-c C-x b' which is the same key as in a normal Org buffer. Therefore, I think we do not need to find a replacement for the `b' binding. Fine! 5. The cursor keys left and right are remapped to a function that does nothing, except showing a message that you should now use f/b to move through time. Why not letting the left and right keys doing their usual job of C-b and C-f? We can still display the message... We could have an option to allow users to get the time motion or cursor motion on left/right, if there was enough support/need for this. I do not think that this is strictly necessary, because every user can of course rebind keys in any way she likes. Yes. I would spare the option. OK, the new keys are now active, the cursor keys do cursor motion without a message (that would quickly become annoying). Lets try it an see how it feels. Thanks again for the deep discussion about this issue. - Carsten - Carsten -- Bastien === PLEASE NOTE NEW ADDRESS === prof.dr. Carsten Dominikdomi...@uva.nl Astronomical Institute 'Anton Pannekoek' www.astro.uva.nl/~dominik Faculty of Science, University of Amsterdam phone +31-20-5257477/7491 SCIENCE PARK 904, ROOM C4-106 fax +31-20-5257484 1098 XH Amsterdam, The Netherlands mail: PO BOX 94249, 1090GE, Amsterdam ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: POLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time
Hi, thank you everybody for this very interesting discussion. I have been trying to think of a way to extract common ground from the different opinions. Here is what I have come up with: 1. n/p remain as they where 2. Moving forward/backward though time will be `f' and `b' 3. Follow mode goes to the F key, a capital letter does make sense here given that some other modes like [G]rid and clock[R]eport and [D]iary are on capitals as well. 4. `org-agenda-tree-to-indirect-buffer' is already on `C-c C-x b' which is the same key as in a normal Org buffer. Therefore, I think we do not need to find a replacement for the `b' binding. 5. The cursor keys left and right are remapped to a function that does nothing, except showing a message that you should now use f/b to move through time. We could have an option to allow users to get the time motion or cursor motion on left/right, if there was enough support/need for this. I do not think that this is strictly necessary, because every user can of course rebind keys in any way she likes. If we decide to use an option for this purpose, the message shown by default with the cursor keys could also point to the corresponding variable. Comments? - Carsten On Aug 25, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote: Hi, we have the proposal to do the following key changes in the agenda: 1. Make the cursor keys LEFT and RIGHT do normal cursor motion again 2. Use the keys n and p to switch the agenda to earlier and later dates. I would like to call a vote on this issue. Please weigh in. Should we make this change? yes or no? - Carsten === PLEASE NOTE NEW ADDRESS === prof.dr. Carsten Dominikdomi...@uva.nl Astronomical Institute 'Anton Pannekoek' www.astro.uva.nl/~dominik Faculty of Science, University of Amsterdam phone +31-20-5257477/7491 SCIENCE PARK 904, ROOM C4-106 fax +31-20-5257484 1098 XH Amsterdam, The Netherlands mail: PO BOX 94249, 1090GE, Amsterdam ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: POLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time
Carsten Dominik domi...@uva.nl writes: 1. n/p remain as they where 2. Moving forward/backward though time will be `f' and `b' 3. Follow mode goes to the F key, a capital letter does make sense here given that some other modes like [G]rid and clock[R]eport and [D]iary are on capitals as well. 4. `org-agenda-tree-to-indirect-buffer' is already on `C-c C-x b' which is the same key as in a normal Org buffer. Therefore, I think we do not need to find a replacement for the `b' binding. Fine! 5. The cursor keys left and right are remapped to a function that does nothing, except showing a message that you should now use f/b to move through time. Why not letting the left and right keys doing their usual job of C-b and C-f? We can still display the message... We could have an option to allow users to get the time motion or cursor motion on left/right, if there was enough support/need for this. I do not think that this is strictly necessary, because every user can of course rebind keys in any way she likes. Yes. I would spare the option. -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: POLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time
Looks good. However, you might want to have cursor movement work, if the keys will not be functional, so that people can mark text (nobody mentioned that yet). Did you get a chance to look at my proposal for right and left arrow keys? -- Myalgic encephalomyelitis causes death (Jason et al. 2006) and severe suffering. Conflicts of interest are destroying research. What people know is wrong. Silence = death. http://www.meactionuk.org.uk/What_Is_ME_What_Is_CFS.htm ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: POLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time
Carsten Dominik domi...@uva.nl writes: Hi, thank you everybody for this very interesting discussion. I have been trying to think of a way to extract common ground from the different opinions. Here is what I have come up with: 1. n/p remain as they where 2. Moving forward/backward though time will be `f' and `b' 3. Follow mode goes to the F key, a capital letter does make sense here given that some other modes like [G]rid and clock[R]eport and [D]iary are on capitals as well. 4. `org-agenda-tree-to-indirect-buffer' is already on `C-c C-x b' which is the same key as in a normal Org buffer. Therefore, I think we do not need to find a replacement for the `b' binding. Great! 5. The cursor keys left and right are remapped to a function that does nothing, except showing a message that you should now use f/b to move through time. Please allow left and right to move the cursor. I will often move the cursor even in read-only buffers, just to focus on a section I want to contemplate. Dired allows me to do that -- even to move left of the file name to the date or other information on a line. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: POLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time
Carsten Dominik domi...@uva.nl writes: 1. n/p remain as they where 2. Moving forward/backward though time will be `f' and `b' 3. Follow mode goes to the F key, a capital letter does make sense here given that some other modes like [G]rid and clock[R]eport and [D]iary are on capitals as well. 4. `org-agenda-tree-to-indirect-buffer' is already on `C-c C-x b' which is the same key as in a normal Org buffer. Therefore, I think we do not need to find a replacement for the `b' binding. 5. The cursor keys left and right are remapped to a function that does nothing, except showing a message that you should now use f/b to move through time. Looks good, but like others have said, I prefer the left and right keys to move the cursor. Charles -- People get annoyed when you try to debug them. -- Larry Wall (Open Sources, 1999 O'Reilly and Associates) pgpSB59hndZ2w.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: POLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: Hi, we have the proposal to do the following key changes in the agenda: 1. Make the cursor keys LEFT and RIGHT do normal cursor motion again 2. Use the keys n and p to switch the agenda to earlier and later dates. But n and p are already used to move up and down entries in the org-agenda. Where would they go to then? I personally use M-n and M-p to move earlier/later. Should we make this change? yes or no? No from me. :-) br, benny ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: POLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time
On 2009-08-25 10:12 +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote: Hi, we have the proposal to do the following key changes in the agenda: 1. Make the cursor keys LEFT and RIGHT do normal cursor motion again 2. Use the keys n and p to switch the agenda to earlier and later dates. I like n and p to move up and down like in many other modes for example ibuffer, dired, Gnus etc. Changing this to be incompatible with other modes alienates orgmode. So I'd vote to keep current behaviour. I would like to call a vote on this issue. Please weigh in. Should we make this change? yes or no? NO. - Carsten -- Emacs uptime: 7 days, 20 hours, 38 minutes, 33 seconds ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: POLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time
Benjamin Andresen bandre...@gmail.com writes: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: Hi, we have the proposal to do the following key changes in the agenda: 1. Make the cursor keys LEFT and RIGHT do normal cursor motion again 2. Use the keys n and p to switch the agenda to earlier and later dates. But n and p are already used to move up and down entries in the org-agenda. Where would they go to then? C-n and C-p, like in any Emacs buffer? -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: POLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time
Hey Bastien, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com writes: Benjamin Andresen bandre...@gmail.com writes: But n and p are already used to move up and down entries in the org-agenda. Where would they go to then? C-n and C-p, like in any Emacs buffer? Sure. That's a given. But they seem to be the fallback, IMO. As Leo wrote: ibuffer, gnus, dired others all use 'n' for next line and 'p' for previous line. And with the recent mark and unmark feature inspired by dired, doing what it does, seems intuitive as far as emacs goes. Another example I can think of: epa-list-keys uses 'n' and 'p' and 'm' and 'u' for the same things as dired and ibuffer. Basically it's the Principle Of Least Surprise. n, p doing what it does now falls under it for me, based on all the other software I use. br, benny ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: POLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:12:16 +0200 Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Make the cursor keys LEFT and RIGHT do normal cursor motion again 2. Use the keys n and p to switch the agenda to earlier and later dates. I would like to call a vote on this issue. Please weigh in. Should we make this change? yes or no? YES -- Michaël Parienti, org-mode user gpg:D4C8 F73D A000 71C7 44EF 27E6 8982 4991 7126 3CE3 ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: POLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time
Hi everyone, I tend to agree with the arguments that n and p should move vertically in the agenda buffer, because many Emacs modes do it like this. So it seem to me that this discussion should focus on which keys should move the agenda forward and backward in time. - Carsten On Aug 25, 2009, at 1:37 PM, Benjamin Andresen wrote: Hey Bastien, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com writes: Benjamin Andresen bandre...@gmail.com writes: But n and p are already used to move up and down entries in the org-agenda. Where would they go to then? C-n and C-p, like in any Emacs buffer? Sure. That's a given. But they seem to be the fallback, IMO. As Leo wrote: ibuffer, gnus, dired others all use 'n' for next line and 'p' for previous line. And with the recent mark and unmark feature inspired by dired, doing what it does, seems intuitive as far as emacs goes. Another example I can think of: epa-list-keys uses 'n' and 'p' and 'm' and 'u' for the same things as dired and ibuffer. Basically it's the Principle Of Least Surprise. n, p doing what it does now falls under it for me, based on all the other software I use. br, benny ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: POLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time
On 2009-08-25 11:59 +0100, Leo wrote: I like n and p to move up and down like in many other modes for example ibuffer, dired, Gnus etc. Changing this to be incompatible with other modes alienates orgmode. So I'd vote to keep current behaviour. I would like to call a vote on this issue. Please weigh in. Should we make this change? yes or no? NO. Let me say a few more words. 1. I'd prefer keeping n and p as it is since it is quite standard elsewhere. 2. I don't mind changing left and right to normal cursor movement. 3. Uppercase N and P can be used to move the agenda to next and previous views. I like it better than M-n and M-p pair. Hope this helps. Leo -- Emacs uptime: 7 days, 21 hours, 46 minutes, 45 seconds ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: POLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time
Another solution would be to use f and b to move forward and backward in time. Some other Agenda bindings would have to change to accommodate this. Old f (org-agenda-follow-mode) could become F which is unused. But b and B are both used and would need to be remapped. Obviously this is not the easiest possible solution. However, these bindings would be very consistent with the conventions of most other Emacs packages. The agenda mode bindings are getting very crowded with many functions and free keys are running out. It may be time to start creating prefix-keys/dispatchers a la Dired and Gnus. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 07:48, Carsten Dominikcarsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: I tend to agree with the arguments that n and p should move vertically in the agenda buffer, because many Emacs modes do it like this. So it seem to me that this discussion should focus on which keys should move the agenda forward and backward in time. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: POLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time
On Aug 25, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Chris Leyon wrote: Another solution would be to use f and b to move forward and backward in time. Some other Agenda bindings would have to change to accommodate this. Old f (org-agenda-follow-mode) could become F which is unused. But b and B are both used and would need to be remapped. Obviously this is not the easiest possible solution. However, these bindings would be very consistent with the conventions of most other Emacs packages. The agenda mode bindings are getting very crowded with many functions and free keys are running out. It may be time to start creating prefix-keys/dispatchers a la Dired and Gnus. We have started, with the v key dispatching view modes. On the other hand, single keys are sooo nice for the common functions. :-) - Carsten On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 07:48, Carsten Dominikcarsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: I tend to agree with the arguments that n and p should move vertically in the agenda buffer, because many Emacs modes do it like this. So it seem to me that this discussion should focus on which keys should move the agenda forward and backward in time. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: POLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time
all use 'n' for next line and 'p' for previous line. I think the modes that use 'n' for next line and 'p' for next/previous line tend to be 'single page' modes (e.g., dired). I personally rarely use n/p even in those: C-n/C-p are automatic in my fingers and they always work so that I do not need to be thinking which mode I am in. On the other hand, in multi-page non editing modes (as the agenda view), n and p are often page (or node, etc.) forward and back. I think this is why I find it natural to remap those in org. --Man -- --- Manuel Hermenegildo | Prof., C.S.Dept., T.U. Madrid (UPM) Director, IMDEA Software and CLIP Group | +34-91-336-7435 (W) -352-4819 (Fax) --- ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: POLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time
Carsten Dominik wrote: we have the proposal to do the following key changes in the agenda: 1. Make the cursor keys LEFT and RIGHT do normal cursor motion again I'd be fine with this change, though I can't remember when I last used the left/right keys for cursor motion in emacs. :) 2. Use the keys n and p to switch the agenda to earlier and later dates. -1 In non-editing modes like the agenda (dired, gnus, etc.), I expect n and p to move up and down. In my view, the standard emacs behavior is that in read-only (non-editing) modes, n and p are reserved for vertical motion from item to item. If there is a change, I would recommend S-n and S-p. - Matt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: POLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: I tend to agree with the arguments that n and p should move vertically in the agenda buffer, because many Emacs modes do it like this. So it seem to me that this discussion should focus on which keys should move the agenda forward and backward in time. I'm not married to the arrow keys changing dates. Any keys that are convenient to use are fine with me. It has always felt a little weird that the arrow keys move the date for me but I just got used to that eventually. -Bernt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: POLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time
Chris Leyon cle...@gmail.com writes: Another solution would be to use f and b to move forward and backward in time. Some other Agenda bindings would have to change to accommodate this. Old f (org-agenda-follow-mode) could become F which is unused. But b and B are both used and would need to be remapped. Obviously this is not the easiest possible solution. However, these bindings would be very consistent with the conventions of most other Emacs packages. Agreed. -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: POLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: we have the proposal to do the following key changes in the agenda: 1. Make the cursor keys LEFT and RIGHT do normal cursor motion again No. Why would you want to do cursor motion in the agenda? 2. Use the keys n and p to switch the agenda to earlier and later dates. No. For consistency sake with other modes such as Gnus. Thanks Christian ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: POLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time
Hi all, Carsten Dominik wrote: I tend to agree with the arguments that n and p should move vertically in the agenda buffer, because many Emacs modes do it like this. So it seem to me that this discussion should focus on which keys should move the agenda forward and backward in time. From my current knowledge of Emacs modes (using dired, Gnus, a bit of w3m, and the like), yes, I would definitely tend to reserve `n' (next) and `p' (previous) for vertical movements. For horizontal ones, the common use goes for `b' (backward) and `f' (forward). At least, if not the letters alone, combinations of those letters (like prefixing them with Control or Meta or ...). See (info (emacs)Moving Point) or section 7.2 of the Emacs manual. Best regards, Seb -- Sébastien Vauban ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: POLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time
Carsten Dominik schrieb: Hi, we have the proposal to do the following key changes in the agenda: 1. Make the cursor keys LEFT and RIGHT do normal cursor motion again 2. Use the keys n and p to switch the agenda to earlier and later dates. I would like to call a vote on this issue. Please weigh in. Should we make this change? yes or no? - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode 1. YES, that was a trap I fell in regularly rainer ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: POLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Christian Egli wrote: Carsten Dominik writes: we have the proposal to do the following key changes in the agenda: 1. Make the cursor keys LEFT and RIGHT do normal cursor motion again No. Why would you want to do cursor motion in the agenda? One could make part of a heading a link to, say, an email, and may want to visit that. I used to make the mistake (using arrows in agenda) but I learnt to replace them with forward-word and backward-word commands. -- Manish ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: POLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:31, Manishmailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Christian Egli wrote: No. Why would you want to do cursor motion in the agenda? One could make part of a heading a link to, say, an email, and may want to visit that. Clockreport also shows links which can be followed with C-c C-o when point is on them. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: POLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: we have the proposal to do the following key changes in the agenda: 1. Make the cursor keys LEFT and RIGHT do normal cursor motion again 2. Use the keys n and p to switch the agenda to earlier and later dates. I would like to call a vote on this issue. Please weigh in. Should we make this change? yes or no? no ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: POLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: 1. Make the cursor keys LEFT and RIGHT do normal cursor motion again 2. Use the keys n and p to switch the agenda to earlier and later dates. No and no for the same reasons Christian Egli mentioned. Memnon ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: POLL: Change of keys to move agenda through time
On Aug 25, 2009, at 5:31 PM, Manish wrote: On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Christian Egli wrote: Carsten Dominik writes: we have the proposal to do the following key changes in the agenda: 1. Make the cursor keys LEFT and RIGHT do normal cursor motion again No. Why would you want to do cursor motion in the agenda? One could make part of a heading a link to, say, an email, and may want to visit that. You can do this without moving to the link, with `C-c C-o'. - Carsten I used to make the mistake (using arrows in agenda) but I learnt to replace them with forward-word and backward-word commands. -- Manish ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
