Re: [O] `f' in agenda view

2011-10-16 Thread Carsten Dominik

On 13.10.2011, at 10:47, Rainer Stengele wrote:

 Am 04.10.2011 23:04, schrieb John Wiegley:
 Dave Abrahams d...@boostpro.com writes:
 
 It always strikes me as odd that `f' in agenda view moves the item forward
 by a day even if that leaves it still in the past.  Typically if I have an
 overdue item, I just want to schedule it for today or a certain number of
 days in the future, and as it stands it's even a bit non-obvious when I've
 finally bumped it up to today if it's a few days old.  Shouldn't the first
 `f' on an overdue item schedule it for today?
 
 Just to clarify, by 'f' dave means `org-agenda-date-later'.  I believe he's
 using my keybinding for this command...
 
 I'm happy to hack something locally if the group doesn't agree, but moving
 things around in the past seems like such a corner case that I thought maybe
 this would be a better default behavior.
 
 I agree with Dave here.  'f' on a past-dated item maybe should move it today
 on the first press, and then into the future on subsequent presses.
 
 John
 
 
 
 +1
 
 Me too I sometimes run into this situation where I just want to shift 
 past-dated items to today.
 I never had a use case where I wanted to shift an item from past to 
 past+n-daystoday.

I think this is all very reasonable, and this is how it works now.

- Carsten




Re: [O] `f' in agenda view

2011-10-14 Thread Rainer Stengele
Am 13.10.2011 15:59, schrieb Dave Abrahams:
 
 on Thu Oct 13 2011, Rainer Stengele rainer.stengele-AT-online.de wrote:
 
 Am 13.10.2011 10:47, schrieb Rainer Stengele:

 Me too I sometimes run into this situation where I just want to
 shift past-dated items to today.
 I never had a use case where I wanted to shift an item from past to 
 past+n-daystoday.
 Rainer

 Well, as indicated somewhere else a C-c C-s +1 for shifting to tomorrow or 
 C-c C-s .
 for shifting to today does exactly what I wanted.
 The power is in the house already.
 
 Yeah, it's just a question of having to think absolutely when you want
 to think incrementally.  That's a lot of keystrokes when what I want is
 to hit `f' (or something) 3 times to move the items to three days from
 now.
 

Having bound
F3 to kmacro-start-macro-or-insert-counter
F4 kmacro-end-or-call-macro

for the first entry in the agenda I want to shift
forward 3 days I enter

F3 C-c C-s +3 Enter F4

for each following entry I put point in the line and press F4

for 3 items that makes a total of 8+2=10 keypresses
for 4 items that makes a total of 8+3=11 keypresses
etc.

Best,
Rainer



Re: [O] `f' in agenda view

2011-10-13 Thread Rainer Stengele
Am 04.10.2011 23:04, schrieb John Wiegley:
 Dave Abrahams d...@boostpro.com writes:
 
 It always strikes me as odd that `f' in agenda view moves the item forward
 by a day even if that leaves it still in the past.  Typically if I have an
 overdue item, I just want to schedule it for today or a certain number of
 days in the future, and as it stands it's even a bit non-obvious when I've
 finally bumped it up to today if it's a few days old.  Shouldn't the first
 `f' on an overdue item schedule it for today?
 
 Just to clarify, by 'f' dave means `org-agenda-date-later'.  I believe he's
 using my keybinding for this command...
 
 I'm happy to hack something locally if the group doesn't agree, but moving
 things around in the past seems like such a corner case that I thought maybe
 this would be a better default behavior.
 
 I agree with Dave here.  'f' on a past-dated item maybe should move it today
 on the first press, and then into the future on subsequent presses.
 
 John
 
 
 
+1

Me too I sometimes run into this situation where I just want to shift 
past-dated items to today.
I never had a use case where I wanted to shift an item from past to 
past+n-daystoday.

Rainer



Re: [O] `f' in agenda view

2011-10-13 Thread Rainer Stengele
Am 13.10.2011 10:47, schrieb Rainer Stengele:
 Am 04.10.2011 23:04, schrieb John Wiegley:
 Dave Abrahams d...@boostpro.com writes:

 It always strikes me as odd that `f' in agenda view moves the item forward
 by a day even if that leaves it still in the past.  Typically if I have an
 overdue item, I just want to schedule it for today or a certain number of
 days in the future, and as it stands it's even a bit non-obvious when I've
 finally bumped it up to today if it's a few days old.  Shouldn't the first
 `f' on an overdue item schedule it for today?

 Just to clarify, by 'f' dave means `org-agenda-date-later'.  I believe he's
 using my keybinding for this command...

 I'm happy to hack something locally if the group doesn't agree, but moving
 things around in the past seems like such a corner case that I thought maybe
 this would be a better default behavior.

 I agree with Dave here.  'f' on a past-dated item maybe should move it today
 on the first press, and then into the future on subsequent presses.

 John



 +1
 
 Me too I sometimes run into this situation where I just want to shift 
 past-dated items to today.
 I never had a use case where I wanted to shift an item from past to 
 past+n-daystoday.
 
 Rainer
 
 
Well, as indicated somewhere else a C-c C-s +1 for shifting to tomorrow or 
C-c C-s .
for shifting to today does exactly what I wanted.
The power is in the house already.

Thank you,
Rainer




Re: [O] `f' in agenda view

2011-10-13 Thread Dave Abrahams

on Thu Oct 13 2011, Rainer Stengele rainer.stengele-AT-online.de wrote:

 Am 13.10.2011 10:47, schrieb Rainer Stengele:

 Me too I sometimes run into this situation where I just want to
 shift past-dated items to today.
 I never had a use case where I wanted to shift an item from past to 
 past+n-daystoday.
 Rainer
 
 Well, as indicated somewhere else a C-c C-s +1 for shifting to tomorrow or 
 C-c C-s .
 for shifting to today does exactly what I wanted.
 The power is in the house already.

Yeah, it's just a question of having to think absolutely when you want
to think incrementally.  That's a lot of keystrokes when what I want is
to hit `f' (or something) 3 times to move the items to three days from
now.

-- 
Dave Abrahams
BoostPro Computing
http://www.boostpro.com




Re: [O] `f' in agenda view

2011-10-13 Thread John Wiegley
 Dave Abrahams d...@boostpro.com writes:

 Yeah, it's just a question of having to think absolutely when you want to
 think incrementally.  That's a lot of keystrokes when what I want is to hit
 `f' (or something) 3 times to move the items to three days from now.

+1.

John