Re: [O] Fwd: puzzling org-mime-htmlize
#multipart type=alternative#part type=text/plain#+OPTIONS: latex:t #multipart type=alternative#part type=text/plain#+OPTIONS: latex:t #multipart type=alternative#part type=text/plain#+OPTIONS: latex:t Le jeu. 09 janv. 2014 à 12:41:48 , Bastien b...@gnu.org a envoyé ce message: Joseph Vidal-Rosset joseph.vidal.ros...@gmail.com writes: My gnus works now. But I'm still using Gmail at the moment. As Nick wisely said: one thing at a time! The good new is that you'll get good support for both Gnus and Org. Yes, you are right Bastien. Good news: I have finally the explanation of the "bug". Here is, and it could be a lesson for all Debian users. All the problems that I had theses times came from the same cause: I had decided to install some very useful packages not via Debian aptitude system, but via direct sources in usr/local just in order to avoid boring and long re-installation of texlive-full for example. But it has certainly created some confusion, probably my .bashrc is not correctly written, I do not know. This morning I have removed and purge all what could be in relation with latex and re-installed bibtex2html, texlive, and so on. And now it works fine. Here is Peirce formula: End of this thread. I am going to open another one about Gnus - Org and $ $ Best wishes, Jo.
Re: [O] Fwd: puzzling org-mime-htmlize
Joseph Vidal-Rosset joseph.vidal.ros...@gmail.com writes: Dear Eric (cc. the list), I apologize to insist with this problem that I meet with org-mime-htmize in the gnus on my PC. On my laptop, with the same OS and I believe the same configuration, it runs perfectly. Here I meet always this sort of message: Creating LaTeX Image... Failed to create dvi file from /tmp/orgtex11506Npy.tex Auto-saving... I have tried to run latex /tmp/orgtex11506Npy.tex - as adviced Nick - and the dvi file was created. I understand neither what happens nor how I can fix this problem. Do you see an possible explanation ? Not enough information: post the procedure you follow and a minimal org file that exhibits the problem. -- Nick
Re: [O] Fwd: puzzling org-mime-htmlize
2014/1/8 Nick Dokos ndo...@gmail.com Not enough information: post the procedure you follow and a minimal org file that exhibits the problem. Hi Nick, I apolgize, it's difficult for me to be more complete that I was. It is not org, but gnus with org. M-x org-mime-htmlize creates the html email, but fails to make access to /temp/image.png . That's it. Best wishes, Jo.
Re: [O] Fwd: puzzling org-mime-htmlize
Table of Contents 1. Org fragment for org-mime-htmlize to chew on. Joseph Vidal-Rosset joseph.vidal.ros...@gmail.com writes: 2014/1/8 Nick Dokos ndo...@gmail.com Not enough information: post the procedure you follow and a minimal org file that exhibits the problem. Hi Nick, I apolgize, it's difficult for me to be more complete that I was. You are kidding, right? Here, let me start and maybe you can see where I'm going. In gnus, I was reading your message and did "f" to follow up. I then entered this org fragment: 8cut herestart-8 1 Org fragment for org-mime-htmlize to chew on. Does this work? 8cut hereend8 I then called org-mime-htmlize. That added the html part and I then sent it with C-c C-c. How hard is that? BTW, just in case I made you feel bad: I've been ranting about things like this for years, e.g. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/32130/match=ask+questions You are not the first, and you are not going to be the last: asking good questions is learned, so there is hope :-) BTW, I think the reference to ESR's "smart questions" paper has been added somewhere in Worg, but a few minutes search did not uncover it. Anybody know where it is? Nick
Re: [O] Fwd: puzzling org-mime-htmlize
Nick Dokos writes: BTW, I think the reference to ESR's smart questions paper has been added somewhere in Worg, but a few minutes search did not uncover it. Anybody know where it is? There is a link to it on the front page. Second to last line in the Documentation and Literature section. http://orgmode.org/#sec-2 Of course, it may be linked elsewhere too. Best, Josiah
Re: [O] Fwd: puzzling org-mime-htmlize
2014/1/8 Nick Dokos ndo...@gmail.com Hi Nick, I apolgize, it's difficult for me to be more complete that I was. You are kidding, right? Hi Nick, No, I did not kidding, unfortunately. I'm replying with gmail, and I am afraid I will give up the project to use Gnus. From yesterday evening, suddenly I have on my two computers an error message with gnus: 'smtp-server' not defined. I've of course tried to solve this new problem, with help of archives of mailing lists given by Google, all my tentative are at the moment unsuccessful... It's both boring and irritating. The least that I expect from an email client is to work correctly. Gnus worked, for sending and receiving emails, and suddenly without clear reason, it does not work no more... It is not stable because I have not changed .gnus.el ... I am sorry to have bothered you for nothing, but I am tired and disappointed by emailing via emacs. I loose more time in trying to configure gnus for my gmail account than in reading and replying to my emails... I will going to try to improve my use of org-mode, but Gnus is not made for me... Best wishes, Jo.
Re: [O] Fwd: puzzling org-mime-htmlize
Hi Joseph, Joseph Vidal-Rosset joseph.vidal.ros...@gmail.com writes: The least that I expect from an email client is to work correctly. Gnus worked, for sending and receiving emails, and suddenly without clear reason, it does not work no more... It is not stable because I have not changed .gnus.el ... If you haven't changed anything in your Gnus configuration and if you are still using the exact same setup that used to be working, it's hardly Gnus fault... maybe gmail changed something? Anyway, just to give you some more encouragement: it's really worth insisting. Remember Beckett's: fail, fail again, fail better! -- Bastien
Re: [O] Fwd: puzzling org-mime-htmlize
2014/1/8 Bastien b...@gnu.org If you haven't changed anything in your Gnus configuration and if you are still using the exact same setup that used to be working, it's hardly Gnus fault... maybe gmail changed something? Anyway, just to give you some more encouragement: it's really worth insisting. Remember Beckett's: fail, fail again, fail better! Hi Bastien, It was FLIM's fault. The bug is here: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-gnus-english/2010-02/msg00077.html My gnus works now. But I'm still using Gmail at the moment. Je boude ! :) Best wishes Jo.
Re: [O] Fwd: puzzling org-mime-htmlize
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Le mer. 08 janv. 2014 à 04:29:03 , Nick Dokos ndo...@gmail.com a
envoyé ce message:
Table of Contents
* 1. Org fragment for org-mime-htmlize to chew on.
Joseph Vidal-Rosset joseph.vidal.ros...@gmail.com writes:
2014/1/8 Nick Dokos ndo...@gmail.com
Not enough information: post the procedure you follow and a minimal org
file that exhibits the problem.
Hi Nick, I apolgize, it's difficult for me to be more complete that I was.
You are kidding, right? Here, let me start and maybe you can see where
I'm going.
In gnus, I was reading your message and did f to follow up. I then
entered this org fragment:
–8—cut here—start-8—
1 Org fragment for org-mime-htmlize to chew on.
Does this work?
–8—cut here—end—8—
I then called org-mime-htmlize. That added the html part and I then sent
it with C-c C-c. How hard is that?
Hi again Nick,
What is easy for you in one domain can be hard for other people, and
conversely for other domains.
I'm back to Gnus finally and I am going to give you an example of what
works and what does not work with my org-mime-htmlize...
* This title
should work
But the following formula
$$ \neg \neg A \nvdash_{i} A $$
should not.
Effectively :
type=image/png
filename=/tmp/ltxpng/latex3088O8b_1791543855878815db07961548d62eeeb9ad27d0.png
disposition=inline
id=_tmp_ltxpng_latex3088O8b_1791543855878815db07961548d62eeeb9ad27d0.png
provokes this message : mm-insert-file-contents: Opening input file: aucun
fichier ou dossier de ce type,
/tmp/ltxpng/latex3088O8b_1791543855878815db07961548d62eeeb9ad27d0.png
I hope that is what you expected from me...
See you soon...
Jo.
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gt; Joseph Vidal-Rosset lt;joseph.vidal.ros...@gmail.comgt; writes:br /
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Re: [O] Fwd: puzzling org-mime-htmlize
Joseph Vidal-Rosset joseph.vidal.ros...@gmail.com writes: 2014/1/8 Nick Dokos ndo...@gmail.com Hi Nick, I apolgize, it's difficult for me to be more complete that I was. You are kidding, right? Hi Nick, No, I did not kidding, unfortunately. I'm replying with gmail, and I am afraid I will give up the project to use Gnus. From yesterday evening, suddenly I have on my two computers an error message with gnus: 'smtp-server' not defined. I saw your other message where FLIM (whatever that is) is identified as the culprit. One piece of advice: do not install random software packages without thorough testing. The best way to test is with a minimal .emacs that just loads the package under test, start a new emacs with it (emacs -q -l /path/to/min.emacs) and test the heck out of it before admitting it into the set of trusted packages that you load in your everyday emacs session. I routinely have three emacs sessions going: my everyday emacs, a separate one that I use as an IRC client (running erc) and a third short-lived one for tests. My everyday emacs runs for weeks at a time; the irc emacs gets restarted every time I switch networks (I wish erc would maintain the connections, but they get dropped); the short-lived one(s) lasts from a few minutes to a few hours. I've of course tried to solve this new problem, with help of archives of mailing lists given by Google, all my tentative are at the moment unsuccessful... It's both boring and irritating. The least that I expect from an email client is to work correctly. Gnus worked, for sending and receiving emails, and suddenly without clear reason, it does not work no more... It is not stable because I have not changed .gnus.el ... ... but you installed FLIM, right? That installed its own smtpmail.el which apparently you picked up in preference to the one that came with emacs. This is a fairly common mistake. I am sorry to have bothered you for nothing, but I am tired and disappointed by emailing via emacs. I loose more time in trying to configure gnus for my gmail account than in reading and replying to my emails... I will going to try to improve my use of org-mode, but Gnus is not made for me... Bastien's channeling of Beckett was the perfect answer here, but as usual I have a few more comments :-) Gnus is indeed peculiar: I switched to it about 8 months ago and I'm still not quite comfortable with it. However, although I occasionally use gmail and thunderbird, I'll take an emacs-based mail client over them every time: I used mh-e for many years and switched to gnus only because I wanted an imap server at home - afaik, mh-e (and nmh underneath it) just did not support that use case. As a general principle however, you need to decouple your attempts to use gnus from your attempts to use org. I recently advised somebody not to use all the blades of the org swiss-army knife at the same time. Trying to do that in combination with gnus is turning the knife into a chainsaw (swiss-army chainsaw anyone?) Do them one at a time: it may seem slow and inefficient to you now, but it is much more efficient than the alternative - damhikt... Nick
Re: [O] Fwd: puzzling org-mime-htmlize
Dear Nick and dear all, Sorry for my previous message. I have had to cut the html code in order to succed to sent my message with Gnus. The result is not beautiful. But I hope that it will help to understand the problem. Nick, many thanks for your patience with me and for all your efforts with the community. Best wishes Jo.
Re: [O] Fwd: puzzling org-mime-htmlize
Joseph Vidal-Rosset joseph.vidal.ros...@gmail.com writes:
What is easy for you in one domain can be hard for other people, and
conversely for other domains.
I'm back to Gnus finally and I am going to give you an example of what
works and what does not work with my org-mime-htmlize...
* This title
should work
But the following formula
$$ \neg \neg A \nvdash_{i} A $$
should not.
Effectively :
type=image/png
filename=/tmp/ltxpng/latex3088O8b_1791543855878815db07961548d62eeeb9ad27d0.png
disposition=inline
id=_tmp_ltxpng_latex3088O8b_1791543855878815db07961548d62eeeb9ad27d0.png
provokes this message : mm-insert-file-contents: Opening input file:
aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type,
/tmp/ltxpng/latex3088O8b_1791543855878815db07961548d62eeeb9ad27d0.png
I hope that is what you expected from me...
Exactly. FWIW, it works fine for me, so it's not an org-mime (or oher
org) problem. It is probably a problem in your setup: it seems that you
cannot generate latex fragment images.
Create a file, foo.org say, and insert the above content:
--8---cut here---start-8---
* This title
should work
But the following formula
$$ \neg \neg A \nvdash_{i} A $$
should not.
--8---cut here---end---8---
Split the window and visit the *Messages* buffer in one of the
windows. Then do C-c C-x C-l in the foo.org window (or what amounts to
the same thing, M-x org-preview-latex-fragment). Does it fail? What does
the *Messages* buffer say?
Nick
Re: [O] Fwd: puzzling org-mime-htmlize
Le mer. 08 janv. 2014 à 08:23:02 , Nick Dokos ndo...@gmail.com a
envoyé ce message:
I hope that is what you expected from me...
Exactly. FWIW, it works fine for me, so it's not an org-mime (or oher
org) problem. It is probably a problem in your setup: it seems that you
cannot generate latex fragment images.
Yes, I agree, it is very probably a problem in the setup of my PC, in
the setup of gnus,
Create a file, foo.org say, and insert the above content:
* This title
should work
But the following formula
$$ \neg \neg A \nvdash_{i} A $$
should not.
Split the window and visit the *Messages* buffer in one of the
windows. Then do C-c C-x C-l in the foo.org window (or what amounts to
the same thing, M-x org-preview-latex-fragment). Does it fail? What does
the *Messages* buffer say?
Nick
C-c C-x C-l works fine: I see the equation image in the buffer.
Here is the result of Messages buffer:
Loading reftex...done
Mark set
Creating images for entry...1
Process completed.
Creating images for entry...done. Use `C-c C-c' to remove images.
byte-code: End of buffer
Auto-saving...done
Maybe the problem came of building another emacs-24.3 in /usr/local/
... I met another problem with that. So I sudo rm -r
/usr/local/emacs-24.3/ and I am going to make another check. I keep you
informed.
Soon,
Jo.
Re: [O] Fwd: puzzling org-mime-htmlize
2014/1/8 Joseph Vidal-Rosset joseph.vidal.ros...@gmail.com Maybe the problem came of building another emacs-24.3 in /usr/local/ ... I met another problem with that. So I sudo rm -r /usr/local/emacs-24.3/ and I am going to make another check. I keep you informed. Unfortunately, the same problem persists in boring me. I have even tried an aptitude reinstall emacs24, nothing has changed. I got this result with a formula: #multipart type=alternative#part type=text/plain#+OPTIONS: latex:t [image: ((p \to q) \to p) \to p] #multipart type=related#part type=text/htmlp img src=cid:_tmp_ltxpng_latex55421HL_fe33fb9aa807a803acea12fbcfe6cf88056fbc6b.png alt=[image: ((p \to q) \to p) \to p] /br / /p #part type=image/png filename=/tmp/ltxpng/latex55421HL_fe33fb9aa807a803acea12fbcfe6cf88056fbc6b.png disposition=inline id=_tmp_ltxpng_latex55421HL_fe33fb9aa807a803acea12fbcfe6cf88056fbc6b.png #/part #/multipart #/multipart Where you'll can see the image of Peirce Law, but I cannot send the message via Gnus because the message error: Creating LaTeX Image... Failed to create dvi file from /tmp/orgtex5542CSR.tex Auto-saving... I do not understand. I send this message from Gmail (Gmail-Tex displays the image), because I am unable to find our thread in the Group of this List in Gnus, but it is another problem Best wishes and good evening, Jo.
Re: [O] Fwd: puzzling org-mime-htmlize
Joseph Vidal-Rosset joseph.vidal.ros...@gmail.com writes: My gnus works now. But I'm still using Gmail at the moment. As Nick wisely said: one thing at a time! The good new is that you'll get good support for both Gnus and Org. -- Bastien
