Re: About exporting

2021-04-02 Thread Eric S Fraga
Looks interesting indeed. You're using many more LaTeX features than I ever do and I can see how your configuration would be useful in those cases. More examples will help in understanding when it will be useful. -- : Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50, Org release_9.4.4-254-g37749c

Re: About exporting

2021-04-01 Thread Juan Manuel Macías
Eric S Fraga writes: > On Wednesday, 31 Mar 2021 at 20:28, Martin Steffen wrote: >> And there is a final thing which (for me) seem to work better in >> latex-mode compared to org. That's jumping to the ``next error'' with >> some key stroke. That's important, LaTeX's own error output it quite >>

Re: About exporting

2021-04-01 Thread Timothy
Eric S Fraga writes: > On Thursday, 1 Apr 2021 at 16:50, Timothy wrote: >> I think in part this works for me because of a particular system I >> have in place (that IMHO works *wonderfully* with Org) which I plan on >> submitting patches to upstream (to Org) in the not-to-distant future. > >

Re: About exporting

2021-04-01 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Thursday, 1 Apr 2021 at 16:50, Timothy wrote: > I think in part this works for me because of a particular system I > have in place (that IMHO works *wonderfully* with Org) which I plan on > submitting patches to upstream (to Org) in the not-to-distant future. Interesting. Look forward to

Re: About exporting

2021-04-01 Thread Timothy
Eric S Fraga writes: > On Wednesday, 31 Mar 2021 at 20:28, Martin Steffen wrote: >> And there is a final thing which (for me) seem to work better in >> latex-mode compared to org. That's jumping to the ``next error'' with >> some key stroke. That's important, LaTeX's own error output it quite

Re: About exporting

2021-04-01 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Thursday, 1 Apr 2021 at 18:00, Tim Cross wrote: > the only small bit of help I've found is org-lint, which has helped me org-lint is very helpful indeed. > Having said that, I find the most common cause of errors in the *.tex > export is due to in-line Latex in my org file. I rarely run into

Re: About exporting

2021-04-01 Thread Tim Cross
Eric S Fraga writes: > On Wednesday, 31 Mar 2021 at 20:28, Martin Steffen wrote: >> And there is a final thing which (for me) seem to work better in >> latex-mode compared to org. That's jumping to the ``next error'' with >> some key stroke. That's important, LaTeX's own error output it quite

Re: About exporting

2021-04-01 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Wednesday, 31 Mar 2021 at 20:28, Martin Steffen wrote: > And there is a final thing which (for me) seem to work better in > latex-mode compared to org. That's jumping to the ``next error'' with > some key stroke. That's important, LaTeX's own error output it quite > poor, but jumping to error

Re: About exporting

2021-03-31 Thread Juan Manuel Macías
Martin Steffen writes: > [...] And last not least; if I ``compile'' the document (firing off latex, > bibtex, or index or whatever), the compilation runs in the background. > As far as I do that in org (exporting to pdf), it blocks emacs. Not > that it's a huge delay even, at least for smaller

Re: About exporting

2021-03-31 Thread Martin Steffen
> "Eric" == Eric S Fraga writes: Eric> On Tuesday, 30 Mar 2021 at 17:44, Juan Manuel Macías wrote: >> However, *I would not recommend anyone to use LaTeX for >> writing*. A light markup language is more comfortable and >> efficient for me. Eric> Totally agree! Although,

Re: About exporting

2021-03-31 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Tuesday, 30 Mar 2021 at 17:44, Juan Manuel Macías wrote: > However, *I would not recommend anyone to use LaTeX for writing*. A > light markup language is more comfortable and efficient for me. Totally agree! Although, over the years, I have written many papers in LaTeX directly, in the past

Re: About exporting

2021-03-30 Thread Tim Cross
Martin Steffen writes: > > There is one case where I do _NOT_ use org for such documents (though I > use org basically most things I do), and that is > > collaborative editing, > > working together on a document (maybe shared by git), at least with a > document of some amount of

Re: About exporting

2021-03-30 Thread Juan Manuel Macías
Martin Steffen writes: > In my experience, ith latex, it's possible to write text together for > well-intended people. Publishing houses tell you ``these are the classes > and style files (among perhaps others) that you _have_ to use, and also > do the following...'' (same possible for

Re: About exporting

2021-03-30 Thread autofrettage
Martin Steffen wrote: > I cannot imagine > that publishers would prescibe ``this is the org-settings and features > you as author must to use to publish with us''. If anyone, then the IEEE. In the late 80s, their instructions to authors included a mindboggling number of allowable DTP-program

Re: About exporting

2021-03-30 Thread Martin Steffen
> "autofrettage" == autofrettage writes: autofrettage> Hi, autofrettage> Not even the most streamlined DTP-wysiwyg-program is I agree. I did not want to imply that. autofrettage> safe from this. Far from. I even doubt typewritten autofrettage> documents can be written

Re: About exporting

2021-03-30 Thread autofrettage
Hi, Just a remark about what Martin Steffen wrote: > There is one case where I do NOT use org for such documents (though I > use org basically most things I do), and that is > > collaborative editing, > > /.../ one can easily > mess it up (typically for novices, who start changing layout or >

Re: About exporting

2021-03-30 Thread Martin Steffen
Hi, here's my angle (which works for myself) how I use org-exporting in connection with doing documents (I use in the meantime also org to export as input for jekyll to produce HTML, but that's a different use, the heavy lifting there is done in jekyll). I am a LaTeX user since quite some

Re: About exporting

2021-03-30 Thread Joost Kremers
On Tue, Mar 30 2021, Eric S Fraga wrote: > On Tuesday, 30 Mar 2021 at 10:13, Detlef Steuer wrote: >> Btw. I had do deliver rtf recently. Is there any documented way to generate >> rtf from org? > > Two routes that I know of: > 1. org -> LaTeX -> rtf using latex2rtf > 2. org -> odt -> rtf by

Re: About exporting

2021-03-30 Thread Juan Manuel Macías
Eric S Fraga writes: > On Tuesday, 30 Mar 2021 at 09:06, Tim Cross wrote: >> The trick with Latex is to go with the flow, not against it. > > +1 > > This is the first thing I tell my students. LaTeX knows much much more > about how to make documents look good than any of us ever will. If you

Re: About exporting

2021-03-30 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Tuesday, 30 Mar 2021 at 10:13, Detlef Steuer wrote: > Btw. I had do deliver rtf recently. Is there any documented way to generate > rtf from org? Two routes that I know of: 1. org -> LaTeX -> rtf using latex2rtf 2. org -> odt -> rtf by saving as that format in LibreOffice. Pandoc may have

Re: About exporting

2021-03-30 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Tuesday, 30 Mar 2021 at 09:01, Colin Baxter wrote: > Very true. Unfortunately, you also have to "go with the flow" with the > publishers who insist on receiving a docx file. I'm lucky in that the vast majority of the journals I deal with accept (and prefer) LaTeX. > Thankfully there's

Re: About exporting

2021-03-30 Thread Detlef Steuer
Am Tue, 30 Mar 2021 09:01:33 +0100 schrieb Colin Baxter : > Very true. Unfortunately, you also have to "go with the flow" with the > publishers who insist on receiving a docx file. Thankfully there's > pandoc, but it's an annoying waste of time having to convert from > LaTeX to some dreadful

Re: About exporting

2021-03-30 Thread Colin Baxter
> Eric S Fraga writes: > On Tuesday, 30 Mar 2021 at 09:06, Tim Cross wrote: >> The trick with Latex is to go with the flow, not against it. > +1 > This is the first thing I tell my students. LaTeX knows much much > more about how to make documents look good than any of

Re: About exporting

2021-03-30 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Tuesday, 30 Mar 2021 at 09:06, Tim Cross wrote: > The trick with Latex is to go with the flow, not against it. +1 This is the first thing I tell my students. LaTeX knows much much more about how to make documents look good than any of us ever will. -- : Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50, Org

Re: About exporting

2021-03-29 Thread Greg Minshall
i tend to be situational. some things i export to html, some to pdf, some to both. it just depends on the need of whatever small project i'm working on.

Re: About exporting

2021-03-29 Thread Tim Cross
Ypo writes: > Hi > > After some years of using orgmode, and exporting using its defaults, I would > like to take a quality leap and find a way of exporting for life. My options: > LaTeX, ODT, HTML. > Forget your goal. Technology and user expectations moves too fast and you will never find a

Re: About exporting

2021-03-29 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Aloha Ypo, "Exporting for life" is a vague target, so it is difficult to give precise recommendations. It is usually the case that export to LaTeX doesn't require subsequent modification of the tex file. In most cases for my work, I am exporting to a LaTeX document style/class provided by

Re: About exporting

2021-03-29 Thread Samuel Wales
is org ootb mma? for those of us who woul dlike to spend, like, zero time exporting, and then, like, less than a half hour fixing htat one thing that is irritating about hte output, with no errors? i can dream. On 3/29/21, autofrettage wrote: > Hi Ypo and the rest of you all, > >> After some

Re: About exporting

2021-03-29 Thread Juan Manuel Macías
Hi, Ypo writes: > LaTeX: I can see some masters here that make professional books, and I > have some friends that publish scientific papers using LaTeX. But, it > looks like a like a rabbit hole to me, since even the masters seem to > have to modify the tex file directly (is this correct?), not

Re: About exporting

2021-03-29 Thread autofrettage
Hi Ypo and the rest of you all, > After some years of using orgmode, and exporting using its defaults, I would > like to take a quality leap and find a way of exporting for life. My options: > LaTeX, ODT, HTML. /.../ > How do you think I should spend some hundreds (or thousands) of hours to >

Re: About exporting

2021-03-29 Thread William Denton
On 29 March 2021, Ypo wrote: How do you think I should spend some hundreds (or thousands) of hours to achieve maestry exporting my documents? I think the key question is: Do you want to preserve them as web pages or page-based documents? If the web, then it's HTML; if documents, I'd use