Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed - Results of testing C-n, C-p, C-v

2020-12-16 Thread pietru
> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 10:46 PM > From: "Marco Wahl" > To: pie...@caramail.com > Cc: "Org-Mode mailing list" > Subject: Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed - Results of testing > C-n, C-p, C

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed - Results of testing C-n, C-p, C-v

2020-12-16 Thread Marco Wahl
> 1. Capture Option Selection > === > > C-n, C-p, C-v work well and one can go through the capture menu easily. > > Below the capture buffer, I am seeing another buffer that is displaying events > from the mouse (triple-mouse-1, down-mouse 5, ...) and keyboard (down up

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-16 Thread No Wayman
What is here missing is `org-capture-by-completing-read' so that user may select among many various capture templates. Compensating for initial bad design is expensive effort. Are you suggesting something like this?: #+begin_src emacs-lisp (defun +org-capture-read ( arg) "completing

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-16 Thread No Wayman
Pietru: If you are extensively using Org's capture templates I suggest taking a look at: https://github.com/progfolio/doct A brief summary of some of the benefits it provides: - Allows capture template inheritance - Checks for certain errors in template declarations *before* capture. -

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-14 Thread Marco Wahl
pie...@caramail.com writes: >> Would be great if you could check out the fix. > > Of coarse. Is the following command the right way to get the fix > for testing? > > git clone https://code.orgmode.org/bzg/org-mode.git This is a step in the right direction. With this line you get a fresh clone

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-14 Thread pietru
> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 at 1:41 PM > From: "Marco Wahl" > To: pie...@caramail.com > Cc: "Org-Mode mailing list" > Subject: Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed > > Hi Pietru and all, > > > When making a relatively long Org Cap

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-14 Thread Marco Wahl
Hi Pietru and all, > When making a relatively long Org Capture Menu for Archaeological Field > Management, > the relevant capture window cannot be scrolled down. This becomes > particularly > problematic with small field laptops. Thanks for reporting. I just committed a fix along the lines

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread pietru
> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 at 12:08 AM > From: "TRS-80" > To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed > > On 2020-12-12 23:57, pie...@caramail.com wrote: > > TRS-80 wrote: > >> If you care to share a

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread Bastien
Jean Louis writes: > Discussion is brainstorming that may or may not lead to solutions. This list is not a place for brainstorming. Sharing very long emails too frequently might scare other readers away, discouraging them to participate to a constructive discussion. Please make an effort to

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread Jean Louis
* Bastien [2020-12-14 01:00]: > Hi Tim and Jean, > > Tim Cross writes: > > > I have no clue as to why your dragging Emacs custom into this > > discussion. > > I agree with Tim. > > Let's keep in mind we are more than 2000 subscribers here and make an > effort of not letting our conversations

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread TRS-80
On 2020-12-12 23:57, pie...@caramail.com wrote: TRS-80 wrote: If you care to share a slightly bigger picture view, particularly about the structure of the data you are trying to capture (and/or, your workflow) we could likely come up with something that would work much better for you than a

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread pietru
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 11:00 PM > From: "TRS-80" > To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed > > On 2020-12-13 16:02, pie...@caramail.com wrote: > > > > Would that apply with respect to inserting long

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread Jean Louis
* Tim Cross [2020-12-13 23:49]: > > That is very right. I have 1140+ "Sets" which are equivalent to > > capture templates. Imagine if I would be "defining it" by using Emacs > > custom, forget it, I would rather break my computer down and switch to > > paper. > > I have no clue as to why your

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread pietru
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 10:57 PM > From: "Bastien" > To: "Tim Cross" > Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, "Jean Louis" > Subject: Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed > > Hi Tim and Jean, > > Tim Cross writes:

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread pietru
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 10:48 PM > From: "Jean Louis" > To: pie...@caramail.com > Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed > > * pie...@caramail.com [2020-12-14 00:03]: > > > ivy and helm packages (ma

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread pietru
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 10:48 PM > From: "Jean Louis" > To: pie...@caramail.com > Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed > > * pie...@caramail.com [2020-12-14 00:03]: > > > ivy and helm packages (ma

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread TRS-80
On 2020-12-13 16:02, pie...@caramail.com wrote: Would that apply with respect to inserting long headings or descriptions in org file? Yes. If you have not used completing-read, just play around with it a bit and you will very quickly see how it works. It takes a list (Elisp data type) as

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread Bastien
Hi Tim and Jean, Tim Cross writes: > I have no clue as to why your dragging Emacs custom into this > discussion. I agree with Tim. Let's keep in mind we are more than 2000 subscribers here and make an effort of not letting our conversations drift too much. In-depth analyses are welcome on

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread Jean Louis
* pie...@caramail.com [2020-12-14 00:03]: > > ivy and helm packages (maybe) enhances that and allow you to type just > > "som" to reach to "Or something similar" or "think" to reach to "I > > think it might" and offers basic relevance search if you use few > > words. > > > > Standard completion

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread Jean Louis
* TEC [2020-12-13 23:38]: > > Hi Jean, a few thoughts. > > Jean Louis writes: > > > In other words program like Org capture is not meant for people having > > too many templates and that shall be explained right away both in > > function definitions and in the manual. Important people lose

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread pietru
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 9:06 PM > From: "Tim Cross" > To: "Jean Louis" > Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed > > > Jean Louis writes: > > > * Tim Cross [2020-12-13 03:54]: >

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread pietru
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 9:37 PM > From: "Jean Louis" > To: pie...@caramail.com > Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed > > * pie...@caramail.com [2020-12-13 21:28]: > > > Why not provide c

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread TRS-80
On 2020-12-13 15:37, Jean Louis wrote: * pie...@caramail.com [2020-12-13 21:28]: I suggest that you install package ivy that you see how it works. Then you could try find-file or open file function to see completions. You can try evaluating this here: (setq collection '("I think it might"

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread TRS-80
On 2020-12-13 13:41, pie...@caramail.com wrote: From: "Jean Louis" ;; Create hash (setq my-files-hash (make-hash-table)) ;; Try putting something into the hash, define your files and their meanings (puthash (intern "One file") "~/tmp/new.org" my-files-hash) (puthash (intern "Something

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread Tim Cross
Jean Louis writes: > * Tim Cross [2020-12-13 03:54]: >> >> pie...@caramail.com writes: >> >> > Dear All, >> > >> > When making a relatively long Org Capture Menu for Archaeological Field >> > Management, >> > the relevant capture window cannot be scrolled down. This becomes >> >

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread Jean Louis
* pie...@caramail.com [2020-12-13 21:28]: > > Why not provide completing-read for Org capture templates? That would > > solve the problem fully. > > I think it might work fine as you say. Is that similar to what > "%^{prompt|default|completion2|completion3...}" does? Or something similar? > I

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread TEC
Hi Jean, a few thoughts. Jean Louis writes: > In other words program like Org capture is not meant for people having > too many templates and that shall be explained right away both in > function definitions and in the manual. Important people lose their > time and effort in customizing org

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread Christopher Dimech
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 10:44 AM > From: "Jean Louis" > To: pie...@caramail.com > Cc: "Tim Cross" , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed > > * pie...@caramail.com [2020-12-13 05:09]: > > Here is o

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread pietru
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 11:24 AM > From: "Jean Louis" > To: pie...@caramail.com > Cc: "TRS-80" , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed > > * pie...@caramail.com [2020-12-13 06:51]: > > > Are

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread pietru
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 12:06 PM > From: "Jean Louis" > To: "TRS-80" > Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed > > * TRS-80 [2020-12-13 01:11]: > > On 2020-12-12 13:02, pie...@caramail.com

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread pietru
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 4:12 PM > From: "Jean Louis" > To: "Tim Cross" > Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed > > * Tim Cross [2020-12-13 03:54]: > > > > pie...@caramail.co

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread Jean Louis
* TRS-80 [2020-12-13 07:31]: > I am beginning to suspect you have bigger data and more options than fit > comfortably into a capture template. I could be wrong, but in my mind > at least, the idea of capture templates is to quickly store small ideas, > notes, TODOs, etc. so you can go back to

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread Jean Louis
* Tim Cross [2020-12-13 03:54]: > > pie...@caramail.com writes: > > > Dear All, > > > > When making a relatively long Org Capture Menu for Archaeological Field > > Management, > > the relevant capture window cannot be scrolled down. This becomes > > particularly > > problematic with small

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread Jean Louis
* TRS-80 [2020-12-13 01:11]: > On 2020-12-12 13:02, pie...@caramail.com wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > When making a relatively long Org Capture Menu for Archaeological > > Field Management, the relevant capture window cannot be scrolled down. > > This becomes particularly problematic with small

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread Jean Louis
* pie...@caramail.com [2020-12-13 05:09]: > Here is one version of a template > > (setq capture-template-investigation-type '( > > ("a" "Historic Background Research Site Evaluation/Testing" entry > (file "~/histr/archaeol.org") > "* Site_Type: %?\n %T\n") > > ("b" "Systematic Survey

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread Jean Louis
* pie...@caramail.com [2020-12-13 06:51]: > > Are there any more to these templates you did not show? I was thinking some users will get surprised on this. They may even say it is not necessary. I have 1148 sets where I am capturing different information. Imagine if I would be spending my time

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread pietru
; Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 5:30 AM > From: "TRS-80" > To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed > > On 2020-12-12 22:49, pie...@caramail.com wrote: > > TRS-80 wrote: > >> > >> Are there any mor

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-13 Thread Christopher Dimech
> > Nevertheless, we see some aspects where your scheme can be improved to cater > for more > serious work. Emacs is quite good software. > > Hope my comments helped somewhat. > > Pietru > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 4:16

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-12 Thread pietru
abc)". Nevertheless, we see some aspects where your scheme can be improved to cater for more serious work. Emacs is quite good software. Hope my comments helped somewhat. Pietru > Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 4:16 AM > From: "TRS-80" > To: emacs-orgmode@gn

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-12 Thread TRS-80
On 2020-12-12 22:49, pie...@caramail.com wrote: TRS-80 wrote: Are there any more to these templates you did not show? Because, (and unless I am missing something) what I see are essentially all the same (and quite simple). You would end up with something like the following in your target

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-12 Thread pietru
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 4:16 AM > From: "TRS-80" > To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed > > On 2020-12-12 21:08, pie...@caramail.com wrote: > > Here is one version of a template > > >

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-12 Thread TRS-80
On 2020-12-12 21:08, pie...@caramail.com wrote: Here is one version of a template (setq capture-template-investigation-type '( ("a" "Historic Background Research Site Evaluation/Testing" entry (file "~/histr/archaeol.org") "* Site_Type: %?\n %T\n") [...] ("u" "Remote Sensing" entry

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-12 Thread pietru
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 1:46 AM > From: "Tim Cross" > To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed > > > pie...@caramail.com writes: > > > Dear All, > > > > When making a relatively long Org C

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-12 Thread Tim Cross
pie...@caramail.com writes: > Dear All, > > When making a relatively long Org Capture Menu for Archaeological Field > Management, > the relevant capture window cannot be scrolled down. This becomes > particularly > problematic with small field laptops. > I'm assuming you mean the window

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-12 Thread pietru
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 1:00 AM > From: "TRS-80" > To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed > > On 2020-12-12 18:30, pie...@caramail.com wrote: > >> From: "TRS-80" > >> > >&g

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-12 Thread TRS-80
On 2020-12-12 18:30, pie...@caramail.com wrote: From: "TRS-80" Well, it's up to you. If you want we can pursue either option, or both (one potentially as a temporary workaround). Or we can wait for more list replies and see what others think. As I said there may also be a better way I am

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-12 Thread pietru
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 12:13 AM > From: "TRS-80" > To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed > > On 2020-12-12 17:46, pie...@caramail.com wrote: > >> From: "TRS-80" > > > > The probl

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-12 Thread TRS-80
On 2020-12-12 17:46, pie...@caramail.com wrote: From: "TRS-80" The problem also exists when making capture templates. The solution could be additional functionality coded in elisp that can then be used for handling longer template entries. As the problem is dependent on screen size, the

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-12 Thread pietru
> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 at 11:09 PM > From: "TRS-80" > To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed > > On 2020-12-12 13:02, pie...@caramail.com wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > When making a relatively long

Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

2020-12-12 Thread TRS-80
On 2020-12-12 13:02, pie...@caramail.com wrote: Dear All, When making a relatively long Org Capture Menu for Archaeological Field Management, the relevant capture window cannot be scrolled down. This becomes particularly problematic with small field laptops. Hi Pietru, Capture templates are