RE: Title for ENV 50204?

1998-07-21 Thread Schanker, Jack
The title of ENV 50204 is: RADIATED ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD FROM DIGITAL RADIO TELEPHONES - IMMUNITY TEST Cheers, Jacob Z. Schanker, P.E. Director of Agency Compliance California Microwave 716 242 8454 (voice) 716 242 8427 (fax) j.schan...@mdsroc.com ---

RE: Title for ENV 50204?

1998-07-21 Thread Bogdan Matoga
Friends: Does this title make any sense? Or is it that I just don't see it? Bogdan. -Original Message- From: Bailin Ma [SMTP:b...@namg.us.anritsu.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 1998 10:25 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org; miksher...@aol.com Subject:

Re: Desiging Openings for EMC Compliance

1998-07-21 Thread Georg M. Dancau
WOODS, RICHARD wrote: I am about to give a short seminar to our Mechanical Engineers and Designers on enclosure design for EMC compliance. There is only one problem - I have no faith in the theory I have for the attenuation through openings. The following formula is from the EMC Handbook,

Re: Desiging Openings for EMC Compliance

1998-07-21 Thread Douglas Mckean
At recent symposium in Santa Clara, I talked to some length with one of the speakers about round holes in shielding for ventilation. For all the equations I've seen and tried to verify, they really don't pose a problem with the work I've done. But, that's strictly my experience and that in

EU Radio Telecom 98/C 227/05

1998-07-21 Thread eric . lifsey
Just appearing in the 20 July 1998 OJ, this appears to be a preliminary step to publishing a new directive that regulates interesting stuff, quoting: ...on radio equipment and telecommunications terminal equipment and the mutual recognition of their conformity See it at

RE: Desiging Openings for EMC Compliance

1998-07-21 Thread WOODS, RICHARD
Derek, there is a big difference between military/Tempest equipment and commercial equipment. I have used honeycombe filters in Tempest designs because of the very low limits. But, In my 30 years of design experience of point-of-sale equipment, mini-computers, PCs, and other types of business

re: Title for ENV 50204?

1998-07-21 Thread Bailin Ma
Radiated Electromagnetic Field from Digital Radio Telephones - Immunity Test - Original Text From: miksher...@aol.com, on 7/21/98 7:11 AM: Quick question: what's the title/subject matter of ENV 50204? thanks! Mike Sherman FSI International miksher...@aol.com or msher...@fsi-intl.com

RE: Designing Openings for EMC Compliance

1998-07-21 Thread Knighten, Jim
Richard, The caveat in Henry Ott's statement about 20 dB, are the words, properly designed. For equipment that is not properly designed, 20 dB may be a little on the lean side. Boards that are not properly designed are very common. Since it is difficult to predict shielding performance (or

Fw: Advance Program for IEEE Workshop on AST

1998-07-21 Thread Richard Haynes
Greetigs, Many of our group have indicated an interest in Accelerated Stress Testing. The IEEE com. TC-7 is again giving the following Technical Meeting. Hope to see you there. Richard Haynes -Original Message- From: Mantz, Joe joe.ma...@attws.com To:

Isolation to from cable plant

1998-07-21 Thread Mel Pedersen
Hello my esteemed colleagues: Are there any isolation (HY-POT) requirements to isolate the user from the cable plant? Maybe not as the cable plant is buried. Would it be SELV? Should one anticipate power line induction issues? I assume that IEC-950, UL 1950, etc. are the correct standards to

fwd: Q A on HALT HASS.

1998-07-21 Thread Bailin Ma
- Original Text From: Chase Wurz cw...@email.msn.com, on 7/21/98 8:46 AM: To: Cc: Q: I have similar question. Those Accelerated Stress Tests (AST) are significantly important for the satellite and space shuttle designers. Are they of the same importance to those electronic systems

Re: Desiging Openings for EMC Compliance

1998-07-21 Thread Lfresearch
Jim, you hit the nail on the head, even with extensive calculations, the error is large. Seasoned EMC chaps tend to ask for thin-walled Honeycombe openings with a depth at least 5 times the hole dia. If you can't live with a deep hole, life gets hard Derek Walton Owner: L F Research EMC

Title for ENV 50204?

1998-07-21 Thread MikSherman
Quick question: what's the title/subject matter of ENV 50204? thanks! Mike Sherman FSI International miksher...@aol.com or msher...@fsi-intl.com

Designing Openings for EMC Compliance

1998-07-21 Thread WOODS, RICHARD
Thanks to all of you who replied to my request. I received at least four different formulas ranging from the very complex to the very simple. Some equations were based upon the wave guide beyond cutoff principle, but some people said that the wave guide formula does not apply to thin panels. Most

Re: HALT/HASS Testing

1998-07-21 Thread MVA850SS
Don't forget that proper HALT testing is to test to failure, i.e., if the product doesn't fail the HALT test was not performed properly. You do not pass a HALT test. You learn from the failures. Hans

RE: Desiging Openings for EMC Compliance

1998-07-21 Thread Knighten, Jim
Richard, Even though you are a mechanical type, you have put your finger on a week area in EMC design. The brutal truth is that there are no good design rules for shielding. While this may be shocking, since it is far from a new topic, it is due to the complexity of the problem. If you look at