RE: Disconnect Device for ITE or Lab Equipment Utilizing UPS

1998-10-26 Thread Crabb, John
UL 1778 UPS Equipment requires that a fixed UPS has a disconnect switch for its output (or a cord and plug or receptacle on the output). Otherwise (according to UL 1778) the UPS instruction manual should require that you provide a disconnect device on the UPS output. However, these

Re: Disconnect Device for ITE or Lab Equipment Utilizing UPS

1998-10-26 Thread CTL
If the UPS is contained within an enclosure where the output receptacles or the UPS on-off switch is not accessible to the user as is the case in some Kiosk applications, an external Kill Switch that is accessible to the user is required to disconnect the output of the UPS to the product. This is

RE: Disconnect Device for ITE or Lab Equipment Utilizing UPS

1998-10-26 Thread Crabb, John
The requirement for a remote emergency power off switch is taken from Annex NAE 2.6.11 of UL 1950, Section 645-11 of the NEC. The following is the reply I received from UL regarding this issue, and in particular that it only applies to computer rooms. Note the last sentence. The source of the

Required Margin for EMI?

1998-10-26 Thread Scott Douglas
Hello all, When doing EMI scans of ITE, I have always worked with a margin of 2 dB less than the actual limit. No test house I have ever been to will give a meets the requirements... without having this margin. Can anyone point out if this is an actual requirement built into any of the standards,

Indicator color standard

1998-10-26 Thread Francis L. Fiedler
Greetings, Is any one familiar with a requirement/s that specify or limits the color of light (LEDs) indicators used on test or industrial type equipment per the function? Does ISO 3864 include this information? - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your

RE: DoC

1998-10-26 Thread Crane, Lauren
The way I understand it Each directive is written differently. The Machinery and EMC directives are structured so that supporting data must be made available in a reasonable amount of time. This allows the data to reside in the U.S. for U.S. manufacturers. However, the Low Voltage Directive

RE: Required Margin for EMI?

1998-10-26 Thread WOODS, RICHARD
2 dB was the required margin for initial acceptance to the VDE standard for ITE. Of course, the VDE standards are no longer mandatory since the EMC Directive came into effect. The new thinking today is to take measurement uncertainty into consideration when determining a pass/fail criteria. For

RE: Required Margin for EMI?

1998-10-26 Thread Matejic, Mirko
Scott, There is no requirement for a minimum passing margin built into FCC Part 15, CISPR 22 or EN 55022. Minimum passing margin of 2 dB was mentioned in old, now obsolete VDE EMC specifications. There is 2 dB rule in CISPR procedures to determine representative configuration in a case of

RE: Required Margin for EMI?

1998-10-26 Thread mkelson
I once read an article (IEEE, 1992), entitled: Measurement Comparisons of Radiated Test Facilities. The Abstract sez: . . .A total of 44 sites worldwide were tested involving both Open Area Test Sites (OATS) and Semi Anechoic Chambers (SAC). Preliminary results of the study

Re: Required Margin for EMI?

1998-10-26 Thread Robert Macy
It is my understanding that this margin is a carryover from VDE requirements where for statistical reasons you need 2.2 (?) dB margin in order to infer that from a single unit test, your other units will also comply. It is also my understanding that that margin was waived when 3-8 units were

Indoor vs Outdoor Emissions Testing

1998-10-26 Thread MartinJP
I am looking for opinions from group members on the advantages and disadvantages between a 10m anechoic chamber and a 10m OATS. All input is appreciated. Thanks Joe Martin EMC/Product Safety Engineer P.E. Biosystems marti...@pebio.com

Re: Required Margin for EMI?

1998-10-26 Thread Tony Fredriksson
Hi, In the interest of not divulging proprietary info, I will not specify the companies involved although I can say that I have never worked for either the manufacturer or the test lab. But I have seen a final report from a very reputable lab and written for a very reputable company that only

RE: DoC

1998-10-26 Thread bma
I second what Lauren said. People usually don't include proprietary information (schematics, drawings, etc.)in their CE compliance technical documentation that must be kept within the Community. --Barry Ma - Original Text From: Crane, Lauren lcr...@aus.etn.com, on

RE: Required Margin for EMI?

1998-10-26 Thread Gary McInturff
Okay here I go starting another forest fire! Before answering the question I will put in my two cents worth. Regardless of what the test house does I would strongly urge you not to accept equipment for production with a single sample test that measures close to the limit. A onesy-twosy kind of