RE: Doubt on LISN utilization

1998-12-05 Thread Grasso, Charles (Chaz)
Gary (and others): I have the same recollection vis-a-vis the VDE COnducted emisions requirements. Thank you Charles Grasso (Capn Hook) -- From: Gary McInturff[SMTP:gmcintu...@packetengines.com] Sent: Friday, December 04, 1998 2:12 PM To: rehel...@mmm.com; Muriel

RE: Doubt on LISN utilization

1998-12-05 Thread Helge Knudsen
Dear group, The use of ground choke in conducted measurements was specified in Verfügerung 1046/1982 when testing to comply with VDE 0871 if the measured noise was closer to the limit than 5 dB. This second measurement must then also comply with the limit. The value of this ground conductor

Re: Two un-related questions...

1998-12-05 Thread ed . price
Cortland: Very good point about the coax. Very low loss coax can be very expensive; I recall a comparison I did a couple of years ago where I need very low loss 7 meter cable useable up to 18 GHz. A Gore cable cost around $2500, a Storm cable was about $1100, and the cable I bought, United

Re: Two un-related questions...

1998-12-05 Thread ed . price
Jim: I typically pay about US$300 to $400per antenna calibration. I get my LISN's calibrated for $100 each, but only if I send in at least 4 units as a batch. Remember that the actual work of calibration is only part of the cost. There's the printed data stuffed in a cute plastic liner, not to

Re: Questions on Plug Adapters

1998-12-05 Thread Robert Johnson
I have seen three adapter situations which are somewhat reasonable. The first is for a product with an IEC 320 C8 inlet. The coiled power cord was IEC 320 C7 to C8, with molded adapters from C7 to North American, Europlug and Australian pins. Cord and adapters were a UL listed kit, don't remember

Re: Neutral - Earth Voltage

1998-12-05 Thread Robert Johnson
Keep in mind a couple special conditions: In some medical areas like operating rooms isolating transformers are used, in which case normal operation is a balanced 60 volts to ground from either phase or neutral. IT systems are often similar. In either case, faults will place either neutral or

Re: TNV-1 vs SELV for unit with Outdoor Coaxial Cable Connection

1998-12-05 Thread Robert Johnson
There have been endless argument about what is and is not a telecom*. It will never be settled to everyone's satisfaction. however, responding to just a little of what you said, I would contend that TNV lines can only be those lines which are conductively connected to public

RE: Questions on Plug Adapters

1998-12-05 Thread Peter Merguerian
Dear Richard, Items in Section General are indeed very general. The actual Listing Report is inportant. For all the hundreds of ITE products that ITL has Listed, in the product description, under Construction Details, we describe all the various types of Listed cords and specify that

Re: Two un-related questions...

1998-12-05 Thread Cortland Richmond
Re that amplifier calibration... you may find that if you can demonstrate an ability to do what the cal lab does, as well as they do it, you may be able to calibrate it yourself. The problem is, do you have standards which are accurate enough to be able to say this, and prove it? In an atmosphere

RE: Doubt on LISN utilization

1998-12-05 Thread Cortland Richmond
As I recall, when testing conducted emissions to VDE 0871, it was required to observe noise in the two powered lines with the switch both open and closed, and use the higher result. Some power supplies would in fact give different results if the ground was opened. An aside: I used to work at

Information about sending equipment to Malaysia

1998-12-05 Thread Michael Garretson
I have a client sending semiconductor deposition equipment to a facility they recently purchased in Penang, Malaysia. The machine is designed for use on a 208 volt, 3 phase power system requiring approximately 100 amps at 60 Hz. The current system is five wire (including three phases, neutral

Two un-related questions...

1998-12-05 Thread Jim Eichner
1. Preamp Calibration: We are being quoted $400 - $500 CDN (say $260-$330 US) to calibrate an HP8447D RF preamp. The quote tells us that what we are getting for our money is a check of the return loss, gain, and VSWR. This seems a little involved and a little pricey to me, but it's the first RF