Jate Blue Book

2002-02-28 Thread Ron Pickard
Hello to all, I have heard that the JATE Blue Book:2000 (in English) is freely available for download. Is it actually available for free download? And if anyone knows about this, then please share the web address to do this. Actually, I have been at JATE's website,

RE: Pencil erasers for pre-EMI cleaning?

2002-02-28 Thread Scott Lacey
David, Forget the pencil eraser. This is the same deal as using one to clean battery contacts. Works great - for a short time. Look on the web for Caig Laboratories, Inc. they make a series of chemicals that are meant to deoxidize metal contacts. I've used their DeoxIT D5 for years. I call it

job posting

2002-02-28 Thread Alexandru Guidea
Dear colleagues, Hope a job posting for a compliance engineer position will not do too much harm to the scope of this group. For those close to or willing to move to Montreal, Canada, please see the summary below. Alexandru Guidea CAE Inc. Montreal, Canada Here is a summary of the required

RE: Pencil erasers for pre-EMI cleaning?

2002-02-28 Thread John Juhasz
I'm sure there are products on the market just for this purpose. But I would be concerned about my design if pass/fail depended upon how clean the mating surfaces are. A component substitution or some other ECO to the product down the line could put the product over the limit. Refer to the

Re: Pencil erasers for pre-EMI cleaning?

2002-02-28 Thread Cortland Richmond
David Heald wrote: I'm preparing for an emissions test and I had started cleaning some of my chassis mating surfaces with a pen/pencil eraser then alcohol to ensure the surface to surface contact was good. David, This is an ever present help in time of trouble. Don't do it. (grin) Cleaning

Re: Pencil erasers for pre-EMI cleaning?

2002-02-28 Thread Stephen Phillips
I'm not trying to be antagonistic, but unless you plan to perform this procedure on all production devices - neither should you do so to the test sample(s). My 2 cents worth. Regards, Stephen At 02:43 PM 2/28/2002, you wrote: All, I'm preparing for an emissions test and I had

Re: ESD Generator confidence test (humor)

2002-02-28 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Chris Chileshe chris.chile...@ultronics.co.uk wrote (in 01c1c055.2b424100.chris.chile...@ultronics.co.uk) about 'ESD Generator confidence test (humor)', on Thu, 28 Feb 2002: Can we extend this principal to confidence tests on surge equipment using middle management and

Pencil erasers for pre-EMI cleaning?

2002-02-28 Thread David Heald
All, I'm preparing for an emissions test and I had started cleaning some of my chassis mating surfaces with a pen/pencil eraser then alcohol to ensure the surface to surface contact was good. A friend then told me that using an eraser would also remove the anti-corrosive coating that was on

RE: EMC Emissions Safety Margins

2002-02-28 Thread Andy White (EWU)
Russell, The margin issue is usually a much discussed subject when it comes to initial product EMC emission certification. As most experienced EMC engineers know that variances in production units will occur. Also to ensure that if a production unit is tested in a different 'accredited lab' a

Re: Screened Room Ambient Scans

2002-02-28 Thread Cortland Richmond
Russell (r@totalise.co.uk) wrote: I'm looking at an ambient scan starting at 32dBuV/m @ 30MHz, dropping to 18dBuV/m @ 70MHz then gradually (with small peaks and troughs) rising to 41dBuV/m @ 1GHz. Russell, Are you sure these are room ambients? They might be the analyzer noise floor.

Safety Margins based on NSA premises

2002-02-28 Thread Greilich, Jeff
Et Al: Another important point to consider on safety margins is how the site performed for Normalized Site Attenuation (NSA) when applicable. A +/-4dB variation is the maximum allowable for NSA based on the premise that 1.5 dB is attributable to the site uncertainty and 2.5 dB is attributable

1000baseT Hubs

2002-02-28 Thread Ron Longmoor
Greetings All, I am interested in finding out if any of the group has tested or is testing using 1000baseT hubs as part of their setups and found any that are relatively quiet from an RF emissions perspective. Thanks in advance. Ron Ron Longmoor EMC Test Engineer Motorola

Permanent Delivery Failure

2002-02-28 Thread John Davies
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RE: ESD Generator confidence test (humor)

2002-02-28 Thread Gary McInturff
One other life lesson one I learned about ESD test areas. One should always check that the drain wire is actually in place before on stands on the ground plane and zaps the heck out of some equipment at 20 K or so. I was trying to leave burn marks in the plastic housing to show me

RE: ESD Generator confidence test (humor)

2002-02-28 Thread Cortland Richmond
One indicator is actually present BEFORE applying this test; the extension of the subject's middle finger in the tester's direction! Cortland --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit

RE: Bellcore LATA

2002-02-28 Thread John Juhasz
Alex, Go to the following link for Telcordia (formerly Bellcore) and click on 'Document Center'. The LSSGR (Lata Switiching Systems Generic Requirements) are available from there. http://telecom-info.telcordia.com/site-cgi/ido/index.html John Juhasz Fiber Options Bohemia, NY -Original

Bellcore LATA

2002-02-28 Thread Alex McNeil
Hi Group, I am not too familiar with the North American requrements: Our customer has requested Surge Protection testing to the Bellcore LATA Switching General Requirements. 600 Vpk metallic, and 2500 Vpk longitudinal. 1. Are you familiar with this spec? 2. Are these requirements covered in

RE: ESD Generator confidence test (humor)

2002-02-28 Thread Chris Maxwell
This brings up a good real life story. I used to work with a technician (John) who helped with our in-house compliance testing. One day, we were discussing the Horizontal Coupling Plane (HCP) which has a 1MegaOhm drain wire to the Ground Reference Plane (GRP). His theory was that he could

RE: Vehicle EMC and Safety standards

2002-02-28 Thread Alex McNeil
Hi Group, Thanks to all who responded on my query. The response was as usual of a high calibre. Thanks to this forum I can proceed with the project plan, confident that I have got the Compliance/Regulatory section spot on! Kind Regards Alex McNeil Principal Engineer Tel: +44 (0)131 479 8375

Re: EMC Emissions Safety Margins

2002-02-28 Thread John Barnes
Russell, At IBM and Lexmark, our EMC department was comfortable if one unit showed at least a 3dB margin between the measured emissions and the specified test limits. If we were a little closer than that, and unable to improve the margin for whatever reason, they would have us test two more

Re: SV: Screened Room Ambient Scans

2002-02-28 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that h.knud...@niros.com wrote (in DCFCB38F97E9CF46 bdb4d995ffdd83282bb...@mail.daniro.dk) about 'SV: Screened Room Ambient Scans', on Wed, 27 Feb 2002: May be you should consider a pre-amplifier. Is there any reason to use a preamplifier apart from the possibility that its

Re: PSE mark

2002-02-28 Thread T.Sato
Michelle, On Wed, 27 Feb 2002 14:45:31 +0900, Michelle Cho / INT Compliance m...@intcompliance.com wrote: Could anyone give me some details about PSE mark and the test lab who can give me quote? I guess what you mean is the marking required by Japanese DENAN. Short introduction I wrote is