Re: Generic industrial EMC standards

2003-07-23 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Nick Williams nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk wrote (in p05210611bb444ab1ee90@[192.168.1.22]) about 'Generic industrial EMC standards' on Wed, 23 Jul 2003: Could someone please explain the relationship between EN 50081-2 and EN 50082-2, and the newer standards EN

Re: Email contact for Italian Ministry of telecommunications

2003-07-23 Thread john.radom...@modicon.com
Charles, Try the following: http://www.ero.dk/ point at CEPT Administrations and click on national contacts. John Radomski Principal Engineer Schneider Electric

RE: Additivity of Conducted Emission

2003-07-23 Thread drcuthb...@micron.com
The worse case could be 20LOG(N), where N is the number of power supplies. It depends on the impedance of the source driving the 50 ohm LISN impedance. If the source impedance is high (like 500 ohms) the voltages can add linearly. If the source impedances are low (like 25 ohms) then voltage will

Generic industrial EMC standards

2003-07-23 Thread Nick Williams
Could someone please explain the relationship between EN 50081-2 and EN 50082-2, and the newer standards EN 61000-6-2 and EN 61000-6-4? In particular, how is it that the OJ listing published on 26 of March of this year (and the one before) lists EN 50081-2:1993 and gives no details of a

Email contact for Italian Ministry of telecommunications

2003-07-23 Thread Charles Blackham
Dear Group I'm sending around notifications under article 6.4 of the RTTE directive for equipment using non-harmonised frequency bands. I cannot find contact details on http://www.comunicazioni.it and the ones on http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/rtte/spectr.htm are out of date. Does any

Re: Additivity of Conducted Emission

2003-07-23 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that francesco.campede...@transport.alstom.com wrote (in of3e02755c.a4628162-onc1256d6c.002b4...@transport.alstom.com) about 'Additivity of Conducted Emission' on Wed, 23 Jul 2003: If I measure the emission for one driver, would it be possible to derive the emission level

RE: NEW EMC Standards

2003-07-23 Thread Carpentier Kristiaan
Hi group, For people interested in the RTTE Directive, a new list is published on July 18th. http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/en/dat/2003/c_172/c_17220030722en00020015.pdf Major change is the Date of Cessation of Presumption of Conformity of EN55022:1994. This standard can now be used till August

Re: NEW EMC Standards

2003-07-23 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Gordon,Ian ian.gor...@bocedwards.com wrote (in E1BA0362B28ED211A1E80008C71EA3060206FD03@EXC_EAS01) about 'NEW EMC Standards' on Wed, 23 Jul 2003: I had a look at the OJ link you sent to check that I had the latest versions of the standards I use. However, the document

Additivity of Conducted Emission

2003-07-23 Thread francesco.campede...@transport.alstom.com
Hi all. Forgive me for the following (perhaps) silly question, but I'm not an expert in these topics. I need to perform conducted emission test (220Vac port) according to EN55011, on an industrial power driver (25 kHz Switch Mode Inverter). Depending upon the application, one to ten drivers

RE: NEW EMC Standards

2003-07-23 Thread John Allen
Ian You won't find the 61000-4-X standards on the OJ list because they are only methods with (typically) a range of test levels and pass criteria, from which the actual product requirements are then intended to be specifically chosen and referenced in teh product-specific standards. Regards

RE: NEW EMC Standards

2003-07-23 Thread Gordon,Ian
Alan et al I had a look at the OJ link you sent to check that I had the latest versions of the standards I use. However, the document doesn't include the 61000-4-x EMC immunity standards. Are they listed elsewhere? Ian Gordon From: Alan E Hutley [mailto:nutwoo...@nutwood.eu.com] Sent: 22 July

Re: NEW EMC Standards

2003-07-23 Thread Alan E Hutley
Hi Ian Try here http://www.iec.ch/news_centre/release/nr2000/nr0800.htm Cheers Alan - Original Message - From: Gordon,Ian ian.gor...@bocedwards.com To: 'Alan E Hutley' nutwoo...@nutwood.eu.com; Emc-Pstc Discussion Group emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 8:24 AM

Re: 3m vs. 10m chamber for radiated immunity

2003-07-23 Thread Ken Javor
Apparently I didn't express myself clearly. Let me try again. If instead of leveling on the x^2+y^2+z^2 output of the field sensor(s) when you calibrate the quiet zone you instead verify that the desired field intensity appears in the one desired polarization/orientation at each point in the

Re: 3m vs. 10m chamber for radiated immunity

2003-07-23 Thread neve...@comcast.net
Thanks Ken. I would expect that 300+ MHz isn't much of a problem. I know that lower frequencies are a problem, especially if you start at ~27 MHz in a small chamber. I am not sure how much the small chamber loads the antenna, and how it affects the distribution of BOTH (i.e., E and H) EM

Copy of UL 2075 Draft for Public Comment request

2003-07-23 Thread Brewster, Alan
Good Friends of the Forum, Can anyone send me a copy of the UL 2075 Gas Detectors and Sensors draft for public comment? I plan to buy a full version but as yet it is not available from UL. Regards, Alan Brewster, MIEE Senior Systems Safety Engineer Novellus Systems, Tualatin, OR This

Russian Translation for Battery Disposal Marking

2003-07-23 Thread peter merguerian
Forum, Can anyone translate the following into Russian? Thanks Warning There is the danger of explosion if the battery is replaced incorrectly. Replace the battery only with the same or equivalent type recommended by the manufacturer. Dispose of used batteries according to the manufacturer's

RE: NARTE safety engineer certification

2003-07-23 Thread Arthur Michael
Hello Peter, I believe the plan is to make the official announcement of the NARTE Product Safety Engineer Cert'n program at the IEEE EMC Symposium (Boston-August). Patience, Little Grasshoppre, Patience. I do agree that the earlier announcement may have been a bit premature (and

AC Power variation standard

2003-07-23 Thread marko.radoji...@nokia.com
Hello, A little off-topic perhaps but ... I am currently writing an internal Hardware Quality Assurance standard and would like to find a reference standard which details AC line voltage variation. For operating ranges, we are currently using: - 90 to 125VAC on 100/120VAC nominal - 190 to

RE: NARTE safety engineer certification

2003-07-23 Thread Peter L. Tarver
I received what amounts to a courtesy response from NARTE this morning. It only took four weeks and as many weekly pleas for a response, including boosting the importance of the last e-mail. My confidence in the value of NARTE's program is uninspired. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE Product

RE: e-mark labeling

2003-07-23 Thread Jim Eichner
There are no standards under the Automotive EMC Directive: it contains its own requirements. All you should list is the Directive number itself. Jim Eichner, P.Eng. Compliance Engineering Manager Xantrex Technology Inc. e-mail: jim.eich...@xantrex.com web: www.xantrex.com Any opinions