RE: Spare Parts and the New EMC Directive

2007-07-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Page 1 (11) of the new EMCD states Where this Directive regulates apparatus, it should refer to finished apparatus commercially available for the first time on the Community market. Certain components or sub-assemblies should, under certain conditions, be considered to be apparatus if they are

Re: Spare Parts and the New EMC Directive

2007-07-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 10:56:05 +0100, John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk wrote: I cannot find any reference to spare parts in the UK Regulations (SI 2006/3148), nor in the latest EC Guide to the new EMC Directiveor am I just not looking hard enough? ... A spare part is, ipso facto, not

RE: Medical Grade Transformers

2007-07-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
List Members, Can anyone recommend a Transformer manufacturer that makes custom medical grade transformers? We will obviously need to get this component Approved/Listed/Certified and want to work with a vendor that is established and reputable in handling agency listings and manufacturing

Blank UL listings

2007-07-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Check out http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRAME/showpage.html? name=KCXS.E229322ccnshorttitle=Ground-fault+Circuit+Interruptersobjid= 1077052153cfgid=1073741824version=versionlessparent_id=1073988928seq uence=1 This is one example of something that is rampant on UL's on-line

RE: NRTL Listing for Home Use Products

2007-07-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hello Christine: For all practical purposes, ALL states require third-party safety certification by an NRTL or equivalent. But, the electrical codes are not necessarily enforced by a state agency. Electrical codes (and safety certification) can also be under the jurisdiction of a county or a

RE: NRTL Listing for Home Use Products

2007-07-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Do you have a list or link of the states which require an NRTL Mark? Christine Rodham Tyra, John john_t...@bose.com wrote: More then a dozen States have legal requirements for a consumer product to have an NRTL Mark on the product to sell to the consumer. This is especially important if the

Re: What about FCC Class B......for Home Use Products

2007-07-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message 701796.65653...@web55709.mail.re3.yahoo.com, dated Fri, 13 Jul 2007, Christine Rodham chrisrod...@yahoo.com writes: ...but what about the FCC? Isn't Class B required for Home Products? By changing the enclosure, the orginal emissions data is no longer valid.   It depends on what

RE: NRTL Listing for Home Use Products

2007-07-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Also, I believe some retailers require an NRTL mark on consumer electrical / electronics products that are sold in their stores, and some retailers have a preference as to the NRTL’s they will accept. Doug Massey _ From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of

RE: What about FCC Class B......for Home Use Products

2007-07-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
You are correct if the product requires FCC, but not all electronic devices found in the home require FCC. Do we know what the product is that started this thread? The Other Brian _ From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Christine Rodham Sent: Friday, July 13,

Re: What about FCC Class B......for Home Use Products

2007-07-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
...but what about the FCC? Isn't Class B required for Home Products? By changing the enclosure, the orginal emissions data is no longer valid. Thanks for all the replies Christine Rodham Christine Rodham chrisrod...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi List Members, While I know not all products

CDRH Laser Notice 50

2007-07-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Happy Friday. The CDRH has issued a revised version of Laser Notice 50, dated 24JUN2007, adding IEC 60601-2-22 as an alternative standard to the relevant sections of 21 CFR. I have uploaded a copy to the EMC-PSTC communities page. It is also available from

RE: NRTL Listing for Home Use Products

2007-07-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
More then a dozen States have legal requirements for a consumer product to have an NRTL Mark on the product to sell to the consumer. This is especially important if the product requires installation where a building inspector will be checking the installation.. From: emc-p...@ieee.org

FCC Public Notice DA 00-1087

2007-07-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
I wondered if anyone knew if FCC Public Notice DA 00-1087, regarding acceptable antenna connector types has been updated or addressed in some other way. Best Regards, Jody Leber Senior Regulatory Engineer jody.le...@motorola.com http://www.motorola.com/producttesting

RE: NRTL Listing for Home Use Products

2007-07-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
I would also add that this looks like a text book example of a Multiple Listing. The OEM can add their customer's product to their Listing Report under the Multiple Listing category. The changes can be listed there (in most cases not safety-affecting and limited to re-branding only).

RE: NRTL Listing for Home Use Products

2007-07-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Ted gave a great summary. The only point I would add is the lawsuit liability issue. Without an NRTL, if your product hurts or kills someone, or burns down a building, a million dollar lawsuit can turn into a multi-million dollar lawsuit real quick; and in some cases there may even be jail

Re: NRTL Listing for Home Use Products

2007-07-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
OSHA only governs safety in the work place and has no authority over residential installations. The requirements for consumer products come from the local electrical codes. The vast majority of electrical codes are based on NFPA 70, the National Electrical Code (NEC). Strictly speaking, the NEC

NRTL Listing for Home Use Products

2007-07-13 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hi List Members, While I know not all products require a NRTL ( UL, MET, TUV, etc ) mark, I understood that products used for home use ( 120V) in the USA required a NRTL listing. Is this correct? Isn't this an OSHA requirement? We are looking at buying a product that would be used in the