Re: DOC Requirement for Year CE Mark is Affixed

2008-06-03 Thread Nick Williams
I would agree with your interpretation, with a caveat in regard to your use of four digits for the year. We have, in the past, been told by the MHRA (the enforcing body for the Medical Devices Directive in the UK) that we were not allowed to put the year number on DofC's because it might be

Re: DOC Requirement for Year CE Mark is Affixed

2008-06-03 Thread John Woodgate
In message p06240801c46a9cb4a264@[192.168.1.30], dated Tue, 3 Jun 2008, Nick Williams nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk writes: We have, in the past, been told by the MHRA (the enforcing body for the Medical Devices Directive in the UK) that we were not allowed to put the year number on DofC's

RE: DOC Requirement for Year CE Mark is Affixed

2008-06-03 Thread Ronald R. Wellman
According to Annex III, there is no mention as to a date that the DoC is signed by the signatory. Therefore, is the the last two digits of the year in which the CE marking was affixed (for the first time) the same as the date a signatory signed a DoC, if it appears on the DoC? Best regards, Ron

Re: DOC Requirement for Year CE Mark is Affixed

2008-06-03 Thread John Woodgate
In message nbenipnmgoglomnalfjlaefbcnaa.rwell...@wellman.com, dated Tue, 3 Jun 2008, Ronald R. Wellman rwell...@wellman.com writes: According to Annex III, there is no mention as to a date that the DoC is signed by the signatory. Therefore, is the the last two digits of the year in which the

Placement of LISNs for Conducted Emissions Testing to CISPR22/FCC part 15

2008-06-03 Thread Flavin, John
Our company sells ITE systems that are housed in commerial 19 racks. The system is designed to be fault tolerant and redundant, so each rack has two AC mains cords. We do our own EMI certification testing (we're an accreditted lab), and our typical EUT consists of two of these rack, so there

Re: Placement of LISNs for Conducted Emissions Testing to CISPR22/FCC part 15

2008-06-03 Thread John Woodgate
In message 809376ab0310a746b991380cb827f8e6017d1...@susday7659.td.teradata.com, dated Tue, 3 Jun 2008, Flavin, John john.fla...@teradata.com writes: Our question is how to place a relatively large number of LISNs and satisfy the standards' requirement of the 80cm spacing of the EUT and

Re: Placement of LISNs for Conducted Emissions Testing to CISPR22/FCC part 15

2008-06-03 Thread Ken Javor
First a direct response to the question posed, then a challenge to the premise upon which it is based. The second comment, if legitimate, is more important than the first. You could use one dual LISN, or one LISN per current-carrying power conductor, if you had eighteen different

RE: Placement of LISNs for Conducted Emissions Testing to CISPR22/FCC part 15

2008-06-03 Thread Pettit, Ghery
One LISN per power cord is acceptable. One power cord per LISN is required for the power cord being measured. That way you know that the emissions being measured are from that cord, and not another one. This was simpler with the old design – two cords comes out of the cabinet, each to its

Re: Placement of LISNs for Conducted Emissions Testing to CISPR22/FCC part 15

2008-06-03 Thread Bill Owsley
John, Way back when, I worked on something similar. One power cord of sufficient size could run the whole thing but the cleanup crew had a tendency unplug it to run the vacuum cleaner. So redundant cords were put into place, which if plugged into the same branch circuit, all stopped when the

Re: Placement of LISNs for Conducted Emissions Testing to CISPR22/FCC part 15

2008-06-03 Thread Ken Javor
Not going to argue chapter and verse of the standards, nor make a case they should be changed – been there, done that, waste of time. However, they have departed significantly from the original intent and that leaves one asking: “Why are we even doing this?” The original intent of conducted

Re: Placement of LISNs for Conducted Emissions Testing to CISPR22/FCC part 15

2008-06-03 Thread Bill Owsley
tongue in cheek mode ON Are we not as EMC engineers supposed to interpret the standards to our economic advantage so we can ship products without delays for redesign and still have some rational for explaining why we did what we did? After all, if there is no foul, there is no fault, because I