Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Good point Wendy, I always control my Equipment from Compliance 5, so I have never used the SW that comes with it. Cheers, Derek.; -Original Message- From: WNya wendy...@yahoo.com To: Pawson, James james.paw...@echostar.com Cc: EMC-PSTC EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Wed, Aug 31,

Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
My understanding is that this is whats done... -Original Message- From: Ken Javor ken.ja...@emccompliance.com To: EMC-PSTC EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Wed, Aug 31, 2011 3:03 pm Subject: Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations? I had forgotten about that fact. In what I wrote, the

Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
James, Do ask for a demo unit and ensure that the emissions SW that you are using is able to control it. By the way I'm using the PMM receiver up to 3GHz with TDK RFS SW. You would probably want to consider the 6GHz option. PMM is not a spectrum, hence if you like the features of colorful

Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message 8ce362b4daae905-16b4-13...@webmail-d105.sysops.aol.com, dated Wed, 31 Aug 2011, Derek Walton lfresea...@aol.com writes: A cable is only its characteristic impedance when fed and terminated in matching impedance. That's why I said non-perfect impedance of the cable The

Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
I had forgotten about that fact. In what I wrote, the assumption was that an IF was being fed back to the rest of the receiver, and that it was at a lower frequency than the rf, and hence the claimed lower cable loss. But fiber is better if the entire down-conversion and detection is done at the

RE: Wireless Access Points and China

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Peter, The last time I checked you couldn't certify anything that had a LAN port on it, but things could have changed since this spring. Something about security or something like that. Larry -Original Message- From: Peter Merguerian [mailto:pmerguerian2...@yahoo.com] Sent:

Wireless Access Points and China

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Dear Group, Are 802.11 a/b/g/n wireless access points powered by PoE regulated for CCC in China? They are for SRRC but not so clear on CCC Peter Sent from my iPhone - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering

Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
HI Ken, excuse my nievity here, but I need help understanding this. A cable is only its characteristic impedance when fed and terminated in matching impedance. That's why I said non-perfect impedance of the cable. So, since the antenna output impedance is all over the place, you can't say

ICASA South Africa Telecom Labeling

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Dear All, What is the interpretation of ICASA of container in their gazette 23212, Notice 289 in regards to telecom labeling? There is a requirement that in addition to marking on the telecom or radio device, a similar label must be applied on the container. Is that the smallest unit package or

Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message ca83e27d.bf05f%ken.ja...@emccompliance.com, dated Wed, 31 Aug 2011, Ken Javor ken.ja...@emccompliance.com writes: Then the rest of the connection all the way back to the receiver should be well-matched 50 Ohm sections. I believe the product in question has a fibre-optic link. I

Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Most mixers are a poor match to 50 Ohms, and the manufacturer's instructions will generally advise insertion of 10 dB between mixer and cable for that reason. Of course, their noise figure or noise floor specification is based on 0 dB attenuation. Connecting the mixer directly to the antenna

Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message ca83d601.bf043%ken.ja...@emccompliance.com, dated Wed, 31 Aug 2011, Ken Javor ken.ja...@emccompliance.com writes: Cable is usually 50 Ohms. Well, people do sometimes tread on it or even stand heavy equipment on it, but in general I agree that, if treated with care, good quality

Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Expansion on this: “Less issues matching a complex source impedance like and antenna to the non-perfect impedance of a cable.” Cable is usually 50 Ohms. It is the antenna that can have a relatively high vswr into 50 Ohms, especially at the low end of use (i.e., biconical below 80 MHz, and in

Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
All good points. you could add that the antenna would better represent free space. I wonder what the effect of Cal factors would be? Less issues matching a complex source impedance like and antenna to the non-perfect impedance of a cable. Elimination of temperature effects of the cable

Re: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message 40be5b4eca254ad7bae8a4d5ef896...@tamuracorp.com, dated Wed, 31 Aug 2011, Brian Oconnell oconne...@tamuracorp.com writes: Why is it good that the 'RF head' is separate and/or can be attached to the antenna? No cable loss? -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and

RE: [PSES] EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
S/N ratio. Rob Oglesbee (765) 494-5234 Senior Instrumentation Specialist Jonathan Amy Facility for Chemical Instrumentation -Original Message- From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 11:24 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re:

RE: EMI Receiver - Recommendations?

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Why is it good that the 'RF head' is separate and/or can be attached to the antenna? Brian the EMC amateur -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Derek Walton Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 7:21 PM To: ken.ja...@emccompliance.com;

RE: RE102 Vertical Ground Plane

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Note: Table I not Table III. HIRF. Cortland Richmond KA5S From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Cortland Richmond Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 9:35 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: RE102 Vertical Ground Plane Excerpted: …Anyone know ADS-37A? A really

RE: EuP Off-Mode and Standby Mode

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Scott If you're not aware of it, you may find this guidance helpful: http://ec.europa.eu/energy/efficiency/e odesign/doc/legislation/guidelines_for_smes_1275_2008_okt_09.pdf Regards Chris From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Scott

Re: RE102 Vertical Ground Plane

2011-08-31 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
I have worked in the past with ADS-37 procurements, and still do, to a limited degree. If one calculates the peak field intensities associated with an average 200 V/m field using the pulse duty cycles of Table I, Part B, you get the peak field intensities of Table I, Part B. I can’t say why they