[PSES] EN 60065 A12 - Protection against excessive sound pressure from personal music players

2012-04-02 Thread Scott Xe
It is applied to almost all portable audio players and earphones or headphones intended to be used with. What about the DVD players, PMPs, etc. that may use earphones/headphones or built-in speaker? Thanks and regards, Scott -

Re: [PSES] EN 60065 A12 - Protection against excessive sound pressure from personal music players

2012-04-02 Thread John Woodgate
In message cb9fe38f.16466%scott...@gmail.com, dated Mon, 2 Apr 2012, Scott Xe scott...@gmail.com writes: It is applied to almost all portable audio players and earphones or headphones intended to be used with. What about the DVD players, PMPs, etc. that may use earphones/headphones or

[PSES] 60601-1 drop dead date - June 2012 for EU

2012-04-02 Thread McInturff, Gary
Just checking to make sure I understand. For Europe the 60601-1 medical standard transitions from 2nd to 3rd edition. It does the same in the US next June. So after June 1s we can't ship to the EU but What about products that are in our customers warehouses in the EU at that time? Do

Re: [PSES] 60601-1 drop dead date - June 2012 for EU

2012-04-02 Thread Brian Oconnell
Gary, We are both 'laying in the same ditch'. You need to look at the legal definitions for 'placing on the market'. If the customers accepted shipment into their warehouse, and you have invoiced them - it is their problem. If it is a contract warehouse, then your employer is probably on the

Re: [PSES] 60601-1 drop dead date - June 2012 for EU

2012-04-02 Thread John Woodgate
In message d250d01e39356a4e9cc3b4b459d665503ccd0...@ms-cda-01.advanced-input.com, dated Mon, 2 Apr 2012, McInturff, Gary gary.mcintu...@esterline.com writes: What about products that are in our customers warehouses in the EU at that time? Do they have to be recalled or can they be used until

Re: [PSES] 60601-1 drop dead date - June 2012 for EU

2012-04-02 Thread McInturff, Gary
John and Brian, Thanks for the input. I do appreciate it. Gary -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:21 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] 60601-1 drop dead date - June 2012 for EU In message

[PSES] FW: CE mark for China?

2012-04-02 Thread McInturff, Gary
I understand why we can't send jpg's and bitmaps but that is going to make this a bit more complicated - but I'll give it a try. If you would follow the link. A colleague, whom I appreciate a great deal has an unfortunate habit of taking Wikipedia as valid reference data. I'm trying to break

Re: [PSES] 60601-1 drop dead date - June 2012 for EU

2012-04-02 Thread Momcilovic, Nick (GE Healthcare)
See section 2.3 of the Guide to the implementation of directives based on the New Approach and the Global Approach for guidance on placing on the market. Here is a link: http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/policies/single-market-goods/files/blue-g uide/guidepublic_en.pdf Couple other things to point

Re: [PSES] CE mark for China?

2012-04-02 Thread Charlie Blackham
Gary A colleague, whom I appreciate a great deal has an unfortunate habit of taking Wikipedia as valid reference data Why not change the entry yourself and suggest he re-reads it? :) This came up a few years ago and a question was even asked in the EU parliament:

Re: [PSES] 60601-1 drop dead date - June 2012 for EU

2012-04-02 Thread Charlie Blackham
Gary Harmonised Standards do give a presumption of conformity..but...non-harmonised standard do not give a presumption of non-conformity. You are required to demonstrate compliance with the Essential Requirements of the Directive not with harmonised standards. Just because a standard has been