Re: [PSES] CE Marking Provoqium

2012-08-19 Thread Ted Eckert
The NRTLs have responsibility. OSHA regularly each NRTLs to determine if the NRTL is properly capable of assessing products to the standards for which OSHA has authorized the NRTL. If the NRTL fails the audit, it loses its standing as an NRTL. It will then lose customers and revenue. If the

Re: [PSES] CE Marking Provoqium

2012-08-19 Thread Brian Oconnell
Significance of CE mark to EU customs/surveillance is obvious and not point (other than my head). Need to understand why there are different or no surveillance systems in place in North America, and if product compliance regulations are different because of regional market demands or political

Re: [PSES] Ignition sources and exposure time

2012-08-19 Thread Bob Johnson
This is a another example of risks taken to limits beyond the considerations in the standard tests. The standard is not intended to contain design rules for every risk, but does a good job of addressing the common ones. If you are using IEC 60950, then careful application of chapter 0 is

Re: [PSES] Ignition sources and exposure time

2012-08-19 Thread Nick Williams
On 19 Aug 2012, at 21:37, Bob Johnson wrote: This is why the safety of a product needs to be addressed by a product safety engineer, not an auditor. After careful review of the hazards and conditions of use, you may end up with a design with either tighter or looser constraints than the

Re: [PSES] CE Marking Provoqium

2012-08-19 Thread Ted Eckert
There are many classes of products that are under a self-declaration system in the United States. This includes products such as toys and clothing. For some textile products, the manufacturer or importer must register with some states, but the products do not need to be third-party reviewed.

Re: [PSES] CE Marking Provoqium

2012-08-19 Thread Cortland Richmond
While the US has a confusing patchwork of jurisdictions, Federal, State and local, for product safety, there is action to stop counterfeit marking of products sold. See for example, http://www.esfi.org/index.cfm/page/Consumer-Safety-Alert:-Counterfeit-Electrical-Products/cdid/10361/pid/3001