[PSES] EU-DoC - list of applied standards with full title

2012-11-17 Thread Michael Loerzer
Hello, I have my personal opion but different experiences with market surveillance authorities with respect to the following question: Decision 768/2008/EC (Annex III) or all existing new approach directives specifies the content of an EU-DoC as follows. References to the relevant

[PSES] AW: Standards for Industrial Machinery in Japan?

2012-11-17 Thread Michael Loerzer
Doug, herewith I send some information from our regulatory knowlede tool GLOBALconformity and our standards database GLOBALnorm: - No similar regulations to the EU Machinery Directive 2006/42/EC - Chapter V. of the Industrial Health and Safety Law defines the requirements associated with

Re: [PSES] EU-DoC - list of applied standards with full title

2012-11-17 Thread John Woodgate
In message 001901cdc4ff$a4da0ab0$ee8e2010$@globalnorm.de, dated Sat, 17 Nov 2012, Michael Loerzer loerzer_mob...@globalnorm.de writes: I have my personal opion but different experiences with market surveillance authorities with respect to the following question: Is there any difficulty in

[PSES] AW: EU-DoC - list of applied standards with full title

2012-11-17 Thread Michael Loerzer
Comments from some manufacturers: too much work (costs time and money)...   I also RECOMMEND to state the whole reference including the title but some of my customers (managing directors...) ask me: is that LEGAL required?   Best regards   Dipl.-Ing. Michael Loerzer Managing Director Regulatory

Re: [PSES] AW: EU-DoC - list of applied standards with full title

2012-11-17 Thread John Woodgate
In message 002201cdc508$a3e81a80$ebb84f80$@globalnorm.de, dated Sat, 17 Nov 2012, Michael Loerzer loerzer_mob...@globalnorm.de writes: Comments from some manufacturers: too much work (costs time and money)... They are just being stupid. The cost and time are utterly trivial. How much more

[PSES] AW: AW: EU-DoC - list of applied standards with full title

2012-11-17 Thread Michael Loerzer
I agree.   Dipl.-Ing. Michael Loerzer Managing Director Regulatory Affairs Specialist Globalnorm GmbH Kurfürstenstr. 112 10787 Berlin   Phone +49 30 3229027-51 Cell +49 170 3229027 Fax +49 30 3229027-59 Mailmichael.loer...@globalnorm.de » globalnorm.de   Globalnorm

Re: [PSES] AW: EU-DoC - list of applied standards with full title

2012-11-17 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
If the title and number were not linked together one-on-one, Yes, I would suggest adding the title. But as they are linked, I do not see the need ! or There cannot bany standard be mistaken for another by referencing number and year. Or Adding the title would not resolve the disambiguity caused

Re: [PSES] EU-DoC - list of applied standards with full title

2012-11-17 Thread Carpentier Kristiaan
Michael, You may also know that the RoHS Recast Directive 2011/65/EU is the first Directive using the NLF, coming into force in Jan. 2013. Some countries require in their national transposition that the EU DoC is issued in the local language. Although most are still in draft: France in French,

Re: [PSES] AW: EU-DoC - list of applied standards with full title

2012-11-17 Thread John Woodgate
In message FCA549BE3ECF9D4CB8CB8576837EA489140B07@ZEUS.cetest.local, dated Sat, 17 Nov 2012, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl writes: If the title and number were not linked together one-on-one, Yes, I would suggest adding the title. But as they are linked, I