Re: [PSES] 60950 1st edition and amendments

2013-07-19 Thread John Woodgate
In message d250d01e39356a4e9cc3b4b459d6655097dcf...@ms-cda-01.advanced-input.com, dated Thu, 18 Jul 2013, McInturff, Gary gary.mcintu...@esterline.com writes: Anybody know the Docopocoss (or whatever on that) on IEC 60950-1:2001, First Edition I have a small sale - not large enough to

Re: [PSES] EMC Required?

2013-07-19 Thread Anthony Thomson
Hello Scott, Here are my rambling thoughts For the EU, I think you need to comply with the EMC Directive because I recon your product satisfies the following Directive definition... /‘apparatus’ means any finished appliance or combination thereof made commercially available as a single

Re: [PSES] Lock washers for bolted bonding connections

2013-07-19 Thread Ed Price
The USA standard on this used to be MIL-B-5087, but I'm sure that must have been superseded by now. Still, it essentially said no star washer, use split-ring washers only. The rationale was stars only made tiny point-contacts, which could be vaporized and cause arcing under high-fault conditions.

Re: [PSES] India ITE approvals

2013-07-19 Thread Tyra, John
Can't comment on ITE equipment since we make Audio Video products but I have found this process to be very chaotic and time consuming for our products There was a considerable amount of documentation required especially for the manufacturing facilities. There are only a handful of accredited

Re: [PSES] Power distribution submetering application - Safety standard for Instrument Current Transformers on mains relative to IEC/EN/UL61010-1 3rd 61010-2-030?

2013-07-19 Thread Chris Wells
Thanks John Besides IEC 60044-8. the general transformer standard IEC 61558-1, -2.4 and -2.6 I was also advised to consider EN61869-1:2009 - Instrument Transformers, General Requirements EN61869-2:2012 - Instrument Transformers, Additional Requirements for Current Transformers. Chris Wells

Re: [PSES] Power distribution submetering application - Safety standard for Instrument Current Transformers on mains relative to IEC/EN/UL61010-1 3rd 61010-2-030?

2013-07-19 Thread John Woodgate
In message A55CB212C030418F8FD1EC87CC2A5E4B@christopher, dated Fri, 19 Jul 2013, Chris Wells radioactive55...@comcast.net writes: I was also advised to consider EN61869-1:2009 - Instrument Transformers, General Requirements EN61869-2:2012 - Instrument Transformers, Additional Requirements

Re: [PSES] 60950 1st edition and amendments

2013-07-19 Thread John Woodgate
In message d250d01e39356a4e9cc3b4b459d6655097dd0...@ms-cda-01.advanced-input.com, dated Fri, 19 Jul 2013, McInturff, Gary gary.mcintu...@esterline.com writes: Thanks for the input so far and the date of standard withdrawal, but still need to understand if I can maintain presumption of

Re: [PSES] 60950 1st edition and amendments

2013-07-19 Thread Charlie Blackham
Gary You have a presumption of conformity when you apply a Harmonised Standard up until it is superseded by a new version (or new amendment to existing version) - the DOCOPOCOSS date. For LVD there is no requirement to use Harmonised Standards. However, evidence/experience/heresay would

Re: [PSES] 60950 1st edition and amendments

2013-07-19 Thread Peter Tarver
Gary - Per the list of harmonized standards published by the European Commission, EN 60950-1:2001 was superseded by EN60950-1:2006 on 1JAN2010. Per CENELC's web site, EN60950-1:2006 was published in 14APR2006. If we were to assume even a three months delay before being published in the EU OJ,

Re: [PSES] 60950 1st edition and amendments

2013-07-19 Thread Jim Hulbert
There are also amendments. As of 01 Mar 2013, this means EN60950-1:2006 plus amendments A11:2006 , A1:2010, and A12:2011. Jim Hulbert -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Peter Tarver Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:35 AM To:

Re: [PSES] 60950 1st edition and amendments

2013-07-19 Thread Richard Nute
Hi Gary: Personally, I support the sales force with whatever they need. If I understand correctly, you have low-voltage device. Chances are that none of the standards changes affect your device. Updating your certification should take less time than arguing against the work, and would make

Re: [PSES] 60950 1st edition and amendments

2013-07-19 Thread McInturff, Gary
Thanks Jim. I'm aware of those as well. If justification could be made to jump to the appropriate edition we would also upgrade for the latest amendment, and quite possible proposed changes under the right circumstances. Thanks all Gary -Original Message- From: Jim Hulbert

Re: [PSES] 60950 1st edition and amendments

2013-07-19 Thread Brian Oconnell
I suppose that someone should do a session at the symposium on Errors, Omissions, Obligations, and Professional Ethics for Compliance Engineers. Support of sales is important; and should be in a regulatory professional's pro forma list. I have prefaced all requestedd compliance requirements with

Re: [PSES] Looking for an alternative to SII in Israel

2013-07-19 Thread Peter Merguerian
Peter The other alternative is Ministry of Industry and Trade application of exemption based on test reports but it may not be available - depends on HS code To get SII you need a person on the ground and who speaks the same language Let me know how I can help Sent from my iPhone Peter S.