Re: [PSES] Review of Steven Sandler's new book on Power Integrity

2015-03-31 Thread Ken Wyatt
Unfortunately, this book was already reviewed on EDN.com, so my editor had to pull my version. I'll publish it elsewhere and let you all know the link. Kenneth Wyatt Wyatt Technical Services LLC Woodland Park, CO k...@emc-seminars.com www.emc-seminars.com (Sent from my iPad) On Mar 31, 2015,

Re: [PSES] USB Mains Outlet sockets

2015-03-31 Thread Ted Eckert
Let me figuratively add fuel to the fire. There is a Kickstarter campaign for a new DIY USB cover platehttps://www.kickstarter.com/projects/snappower/snappower-charger-a-usb-charger-in-a-coverplate-no?ref=nav_search. The FAQ near the bottom of the page promises that the product will be UL

Re: [PSES] Basic instruction in EMC and safety requirements for the non-professional

2015-03-31 Thread Richard Nute
Hi Ken: Oh, boy. EMC and safety requirements are a cost without a sale. That is what a VP of marketing told me. For the most part, management would prefer to keep the costs at a minimum. EMC, ROHS, and safety requirements are rules that the products must comply with in order

Re: [PSES] Basic instruction in EMC and safety requirements for the non-professional

2015-03-31 Thread John Woodgate
In message d14045dc.6b392%ken.ja...@emccompliance.com, dated Tue, 31 Mar 2015, Ken Javor ken.ja...@emccompliance.com writes: Can anyone out there suggest either some texts or urls covering the subject matter for management at a higher level not interested in details?  Especially as to impact

[PSES] Basic instruction in EMC and safety requirements for the non-professional

2015-03-31 Thread Ken Javor
Can anyone out there suggest either some texts or urls covering the subject matter for management at a higher level not interested in details? Especially as to impact on selling equipment outside a country¹s own borders. Thank you, Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 -

Re: [PSES] Basic instruction in EMC and safety requirements for the non-professional

2015-03-31 Thread Doug Powell
Can anyone out there suggest either some texts or urls covering the subject matter for management at a higher level not interested in details? Especially as to impact on selling equipment outside a country?s own borders. When communicating with management I generally do not go into deep

Re: [PSES] Basic instruction in EMC and safety requirements for the non-professional

2015-03-31 Thread Ken Javor
Thanks ­ these are the types of resource for which I was searching. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 From: Scott Aldous scottald...@google.com Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 13:25:28 -0700 To: Ken Javor ken.ja...@emccompliance.com Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org Subject: Re:

Re: [PSES] Basic instruction in EMC and safety requirements for the non-professional

2015-03-31 Thread Ken Javor
There appear to be some serious attitude cases subscribed to this forum. I am truly looking for primer type info for the non-engineer. Not trying to persuade recalcitrant mangers, just trying to round up some basic info on the subject. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 From: Brian Oconnell

Re: [PSES] Basic instruction in EMC and safety requirements for the non-professional

2015-03-31 Thread John Woodgate
In message 551b024e.1010...@gmail.com, dated Tue, 31 Mar 2015, Doug Powell doug...@gmail.com writes: .  Of course, this assumes that the compliance engineering function has early input to the new design Question 1: Can you be certain that you won't ever want to sell this product in many

Re: [PSES] Basic instruction in EMC and safety requirements for the non-professional

2015-03-31 Thread Ed Price
John: I beg to differ with you when you say that a conviction of technical superiority is a 50-year old dinosaur attitude . Do you recall a recent highly popular smartphone which provided an insanely excellent experience, but only if you held it the right way so as to not block its

Re: [PSES] Basic instruction in EMC and safety requirements for the non-professional

2015-03-31 Thread John Allen
John And so what has actually changed with today's get rich quick senior managers of both types in the last 50 years? Often, unfortunately not very much! L John Allen W.London, UK -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: 31 March 2015

Re: [PSES] Basic instruction in EMC and safety requirements for the non-professional

2015-03-31 Thread John Allen
Ken In one respect you are quite right, but you still really do have to understand the minds of the people you need to convince/convert, and thus you need to understand and rationalise how you will present those primers to the audience that you hope will take it all in - and that means really

Re: [PSES] Basic instruction in EMC and safety requirements for the non-professional

2015-03-31 Thread John Allen
Ken OK, I do understand, and so make sure that what you pass on, to the managers asking for the info, the other half of the equation in terms that they themselves understand for the audience that they need to reach - and not just pass on the info John Allen W.London, UK -Original

Re: [PSES] Basic instruction in EMC and safety requirements for the non-professional

2015-03-31 Thread John Allen
Brian friends Your comment about W.E.C. is undoubtedly true in many cases as I have seen on many occasions - unfortunately, the cost without a sale argument is prevalent, and not only amongst the marketing men but also amongst some of the senior technical management because of their

Re: [PSES] Basic instruction in EMC and safety requirements for the non-professional

2015-03-31 Thread Ken Javor
I'm not making a persuasive pitch. I was asked to provide primer type material for someone who wanted an overview of the topic without getting into engineering details. I started off with enclosures for rotating fans and the UL finger, but I figured there would be much more comprehensive

Re: [PSES] Basic instruction in EMC and safety requirements for the non-professional

2015-03-31 Thread John Woodgate
In message !!AAAYAEGjmYsMtGZAuvo7rFLQ++figAAAEGclIn6IPpdMlDLZ1 GnjPVEBAA==@blueyonder.co.uk, dated Tue, 31 Mar 2015, John Allen john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk writes: - unfortunately, the cost without a sale argument is prevalent, But since the cost is necessary for

Re: [PSES] Basic instruction in EMC and safety requirements for the non-professional

2015-03-31 Thread Scott Aldous
A couple of resources that might be helpful: First, a very high level overview https://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e/whatis_e/tif_e/agrm4_e.htm#TRS from the WTO. Second, an article http://incompliancemag.com/article/a-primer-on-global-regulatory-requirements-for-ite/ from inCompliance magazine

Re: [PSES] Basic instruction in EMC and safety requirements for the non-professional

2015-03-31 Thread Brian Oconnell
Mr. Nute, As this is probably for management, respectfully suggest that the premier exposition for PHBs is none other than a reference to some Wile E. Coyote videos. This is well within the MBA attention span and their required level of understanding for product performance and conformity.

Re: [PSES] Basic instruction in EMC and safety requirements for the non-professional

2015-03-31 Thread Brian Ceresney
Hmmm I was told that having an attitude was a pre-requisite for the position... ; ) Brian C 604-566-8827 Delta-Q Technologies -Original Message- From: Ken Javor [mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com] Sent: March-31-15 1:50 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Basic

Re: [PSES] Basic instruction in EMC and safety requirements for the non-professional

2015-03-31 Thread Ken Javor
I¹m not looking for justification, just a primer on these subjects for the non-engineer. Thank you. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 From: Richard Nute ri...@ieee.org Reply-To: ri...@ieee.org Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 12:57:08 -0700 To: 'Ken Javor' ken.ja...@emccompliance.com,

Re: [PSES] Basic instruction in EMC and safety requirements for the non-professional

2015-03-31 Thread Ed Price
Brian: Yet it must be noted that Mr. Coyote never brought suit against the Acme Company, despite a long history on non-compliant and generally unsuitable products whose use often resulted in grave physical injuries. This would probably be counter-productive to Ken's quest. Ed Price WB6WSN

[PSES] Review of Steven Sandler's new book on Power Integrity

2015-03-31 Thread Ken Wyatt
Hi All, I just posted a review of Steven Sandler’s recent book, Power Integrity. http://www.edn.com/electronics-blogs/the-emc-blog/4439092/Review--Power-Integrity-by-Steven-Sandler http://www.edn.com/electronics-blogs/the-emc-blog/4439092/Review--Power-Integrity-by-Steven-Sandler Cheers, Ken