Re: [PSES] Schaffner net filter FN 2080

2015-04-15 Thread Kunde, Brian
You may just want to characterize the line filter yourself. Then you will know. You will need a receiver or spectrum analyzer with a tracking generator, a network analyzer, or a sig gen and power meter combination. Our lab uses a simple labview program for characterizing amps, filters, cables,

Re: [PSES] Schaffner net filter FN 2080

2015-04-15 Thread John Woodgate
In message 64D32EE8B9CBDD44963ACB076A5F6ABB026D936A@Mailbox-Tech.lecotech.local, dated Wed, 15 Apr 2015, Kunde, Brian brian_ku...@lecotc.com writes: You may just want to characterize the line filter yourself. Then you will know. You will need a receiver or spectrum analyzer with a tracking

Re: [PSES] 16 AWG wire usage

2015-04-15 Thread Brian Oconnell
Article 430 should be referenced for this stuff. In general, overload protection required for each branch circuit at the distribution panel. My experience with current interrupt stuff embedded within motor is typically to meet the EIS ratings (limits of windings), and unless it is

Re: [PSES] 16 AWG wire usage

2015-04-15 Thread John Woodgate
In message blupr02mb116aef4c518d40f7344d15dc1...@blupr02mb116.namprd02.prod.outlook .com, dated Wed, 15 Apr 2015, Brian Oconnell oconne...@tamuracorp.com writes: Article 430 should be referenced for this stuff. In general, overload protection required for each branch circuit at the

Re: [PSES] 16 AWG wire usage

2015-04-15 Thread Brian Oconnell
Have an aphorism for this that was derived from another common one (Shaw), that found its way into a product's installation instructions: Do not argue with an AHJ, you will get dirty and the AHJ probably likes the dirt. Brian -Original Message- From: John Woodgate

Re: [PSES] Schaffner net filter FN 2080

2015-04-15 Thread dougp01
If you are trying to do an A-B comparison between two filters or simply characterize at different impedances, it is possible to use a 10:1 BALUN in line with your spectrum analyzer and tracking generator setup to intentionally introduce a mismatch in impedance.   I recommend doing three

Re: [PSES] 16 AWG wire usage

2015-04-15 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
I'm trying a preemptive attack on the design to make sure it complies before we get questioned by any AHJ or NRTL. Perhaps I should clarify the my original question is relevant to wiring internal to machinery hence the reference to NFPA 79. I'll take a look at NFPA 70 in a bit. Next on my

Re: [PSES] 16 AWG wire usage

2015-04-15 Thread Brian Oconnell
UL/CSA60950-1 has very specific material requirements for motors. And 508C being deprecated, we now have UL61800-5-1, so that might be helpful if this is a controlled-drive motor, but have not read so not certain. IEC60204 has broad scope, so there an 'equivalent' ANSI or CSA standard not

[PSES] Using ISM standards is a privilege not a requirement.

2015-04-15 Thread Crane, Lauren
Experts, I am considering industrial machinery that might include as components all manner of devices (fluorescent lights, control computers, monitors, PWM motor drives, various sensors) and what radiated emission limits might be in either the CE or FCC realm. In the case that ISM devices

[PSES] Schaffner net filter FN 2080

2015-04-15 Thread Amund Westin
What kind of filter attenuation can be expected in the frequency region 100-150MHz? Can only find filter diagrams up to 30-40MHz. B.regards Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc

Re: [PSES] Schaffner net filter FN 2080

2015-04-15 Thread John Woodgate
In message 00c701d0774a$2d0b60b0$8710$@westin-emission.no, dated Wed, 15 Apr 2015, Amund Westin am...@westin-emission.no writes: What kind of filter attenuation can be expected in the frequency region 100-150MHz? You have to ask the manufacturers. Can only find filter diagrams up to