Re: [PSES] What percentage of products pass first time?

2021-05-25 Thread Richard Nute
Hi John: “Therefore safety, standards compliance and EMC standards compliance REALLY MUST be an integral component of engineering education – and ALSO for company management…” While I agree, in practice the only time company management addresses safety and other compliance matters

Re: [PSES] What percentage of products pass first time?

2021-05-25 Thread John E Allen
Like a “lot” of people here, I never had any formal education in either safety or EMC compliance – I just had to learn “on the job” about “what worked and what didn’t”, and often in very challenging situations. (OTOH, I was never the “sharpest tool in the toolbox” in engineering parlance –

[PSES] Shipping samples to UK

2021-05-25 Thread Chris
Folks,We would like to ship some non revenue samples to BT in UK.Frequency  C-band 3.8-4.2 GHz. Does UK custom allow import of non revenue Access Point samples for evaluation. Any info will help as UK rules are different compared to Europe. Thanks in advance Christopher -

Re: [PSES] What percentage of products pass first time?

2021-05-25 Thread Dennis Ward
Having been in the EMC business now for going on 40+years, I concur with what Pete is saying. The truth of the matter is, this field of study is sadly under taught and is still more hands on and learning by trial and error for the most part. Yes, there are a lot of good ‘classes’ you can

Re: [PSES] What percentage of products pass first time?

2021-05-25 Thread Pete Perkins
James, You don’t have to denigrate yourself as not being a guru. You have plenty of experience in this as shown by your comments. Sharing this is quite valuable to the others on this thread. All of us started out as ignorant of any of these requirements because they are

Re: [PSES] Retesting needed for EN 61010-1:2010/A1:2019??

2021-05-25 Thread Charlie Blackham
https://www.evs.ee/en/evs-en-61010-1-2010-a1-2019 gives clause by clause changes Unfortunately you will need to review it against your product with existing report to see which clauses are applicable and what changes any applicable clauses would require Best regards Charlie Charlie Blackham

Re: [PSES] Retesting needed for EN 61010-1:2010/A1:2019??

2021-05-25 Thread Wiseman, Joshua
When I reviewed it for our products the biggest impact for us is documentation, Clause 5.4. With that said there are some changes that could impact products. For example, 6.3.1 changed the voltages for what is deemed hazardous. I'm not sure if there is a list of changes anywhere, but the

Re: [PSES] Australia: IEC 62368-1 or IEC 61010-1 for controller with radio

2021-05-25 Thread John Woodgate
I think that an industrial controller might have high-current power circuits, but 62368-1 doesn't cover securing high-current cables against movement due to magnetic forces under fault conditions. == Best

Re: [PSES] Australia: IEC 62368-1 or IEC 61010-1 for controller with radio

2021-05-25 Thread Rodriguez, Daniel (ESP)
Thank you all The summary is that as AS/NZS 62368-1 is a standard defined by ACMA for radio equipment, we will test for this standard, additionally tested for EN 61010-1 Telecommunications (Customer Equipment Safety) Technical Standard 2018

[PSES] Retesting needed for EN 61010-1:2010/A1:2019??

2021-05-25 Thread Rodriguez, Daniel (ESP)
Good morning all I have just reviewed the EN 61010-1:2010/A1:2019 and there a lot of changes. Most of them seems clarifications but I am not sure if we need to retest equipment checked for EN 61010-1:2010 to add A1:2029 Does anyone have a clear picture: 1.if retesting is required 2.if yes there

Re: [PSES] What percentage of products pass first time?

2021-05-25 Thread McBurney, Ian
Mike Sherman’s view exactly mirrors my experience in the 25 years I’ve been doing EMC testing! Regards, Ian McBurney Lead Compliance Engineer Allen & Heath Ltd. Kernick Industrial estate, Penryn, Cornwall. TR10 9LU. UK. Tel: 01326 372070 Email: ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com From: MIKE SHERMAN

Re: [PSES] What percentage of products pass first time?

2021-05-25 Thread James Pawson (U3C)
(replying even though I’m not a guru) Hi Charles, hope all is well with you Speaking from my own experience. Over the last four years of running a consultancy, pre-compliance and low cost test EMC laboratory I would (very roughly) estimate that around: * 50% of products pass their