Re: [PSES] AI & Regulatory Compliance

2023-10-16 Thread Vincent Lee
Hi all, ChatGPT is just joining of words and characters using model called transformer that may sometimes, sound reasonable to human. AI is certainly cannot replacing human after all human is much more intelligent with wisdom too.AI don't have wisdom, feeling and etc. Thus, human cannot be rep

[PSES] SV: [PSES] IEC/EN62368-1 includes requirements (Annex M) to IEC/EN 62133-2

2023-10-16 Thread Amund Westin
Thanks, James! Seems we might have an issue here since the cells are not IEC62133-2 approved. But the cells are UN38.3 certified. And we are now running UN38.3 on the complete product (product and cells includes). Do you know if such UN38.3 tests will be good as IEC62133-2 compliance? BR Amund

[PSES] FCC product registration - listed module

2023-10-16 Thread Brian Gregory
I finally got the feedback I was seeking from a swarm of quotes for EMC testing for FCC and ISED, concerning qualifying a product with an FCC-registered WiFi module deployed onto our PCB. I've tried processing the FCC orders on what upholds or doesn't when placing the module on your PCB and

Re: [PSES] IEC/EN62368-1 includes requirements (Annex M) to IEC/EN 62133-2

2023-10-16 Thread James Pawson (U3C)
Hi Amund, Annex M (batteries) is normative = shall comply. You only get to comply with Annex M if you pass M.2.1 which requires that cells comply with the relevant IEC standard. IEC 62133 (all parts) are in Annex ZA as an undated reference meaning you should be looking to use the latest one -

[PSES] IEC/EN62368-1 includes requirements (Annex M) to IEC/EN 62133-2

2023-10-16 Thread Amund Westin
An IT product must comply to EN62368-1. It contains Lithium LiPo batter. According to EN/IEC62368-1-1:2020, ยง M.2 Safety of batteries and their cells, the standard IEC 62133-2 is listed, and batteries and cells shall comply according to that standard. Could this be interpreted as an invariable r