RE: [PSES] Toyota -- Comment on Software and Electronics for Safety

2010-03-03 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
day, March 02, 2010 6:45 PM To: Pettit, Ghery; John M Woodgate; EMC-PSTC Subject: Re: [PSES] Toyota -- Comment on Software and Electronics for Safety I think I recall that video from years ago. If so, I thought it came in high and stayed high when it should have touched down on pavement WAY ear

Re: [PSES] Toyota -- Comment on Software and Electronics for Safety

2010-03-02 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
come.shtml http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm From: "Pettit, Ghery" To: John M Woodgate ; EMC-PSTC Sent: Mon, March 1, 2010 7:38:03 PM Subject: RE: [PSES] Toyota -- Comment on Software and Electronics for Safety This has be

RE: [PSES] Toyota -- Comment on Software and Electronics for Safety

2010-03-02 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
mc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of John Woodgate Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 1:46 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: [PSES] Toyota -- Comment on Software and Electronics for Safety In message <4c5e6457cd7911469a07260381288c2860f54...@orsmsx502.amr.corp.intel.com>, dated Mon, 1 Mar 2010, &quo

Re: [PSES] Toyota -- Comment on Software and Electronics for Safety

2010-03-02 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message <4c5e6457cd7911469a07260381288c2860f54...@orsmsx502.amr.corp.intel.com>, dated Mon, 1 Mar 2010, "Pettit, Ghery" writes: > In the Paris incident the pilots tried to exceed the performance >envelope to clear the trees and the computer wouldn't let them. I've >seen video of the crash

RE: [PSES] Toyota -- Comment on Software and Electronics for Safety

2010-03-01 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: 03/01/2010 04:39 PM Subject: Re: [PSES] Toyota -- Comment on Software and Electronics for Safety This has been well discussed in a

Re: [PSES] Toyota -- Comment on Software and Electronics for Safety

2010-03-01 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: 03/01/2010 04:39 PM Subject: Re: [PSES] Toyota -- Comment on Software and Electronics for Safety This has been well discussed in aviation circles. The fly by wire systems in the

RE: [PSES] Toyota -- Comment on Software and Electronics for Safety

2010-03-01 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
4:26 PM To: EMC-PSTC Subject: Re: [PSES] Toyota -- Comment on Software and Electronics for Safety In message , "McInturff, Gary" writes >They got to the end of the pass saw the trees and tried to pull up, but >the software looked at the flight envelope and said no because the low

Re: [PSES] Toyota -- Comment on Software and Electronics for Safety

2010-03-01 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message , "McInturff, Gary" writes >They got to the end of the pass saw the trees and tried to pull up, but >the software looked at the flight envelope and said no because the low >airspeed meant that they were at a critical point on the flight >envelope and raising the nose at that speed

RE: [PSES] Toyota -- Comment on Software and Electronics for Safety

2010-03-01 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
PM To: ralph.mcdiar...@ca.schneider-electric.com; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Toyota -- Comment on Software and Electronics for Safety Ralph, When you get into designing things for the FAA, depending on the criticality of the system, it becomes almost impossible to use an

RE: [PSES] Toyota -- Comment on Software and Electronics for Safety

2010-03-01 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
ider-electric.com] Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 2:42 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Toyota -- Comment on Software and Electronics for Safety It seems to me that the 'wrong position' is difficult to define and equally difficult to protect against. Would a watch-dog

Re: [PSES] Toyota -- Comment on Software and Electronics for Safety

2010-03-01 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
0 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [PSES] Toyota -- Comment on Software and Electronics for Safety Brian, Several years ago, in a workshop at one of the first Product Safety' Engineering Society (PSES) symposiums, the question came up: "How can you certify

Re: [PSES] Toyota -- Comment on Software and Electronics for Safety

2010-03-01 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Brian, Several years ago, in a workshop at one of the first Product Safety Engineering Society (PSES) symposiums, the question came up: "How can you certify software for safety-critical applications?" One of the people in the audience answered "Treat the software as a switch with two positions,